Cementmixer103 71 Report post Posted January 22, 2020 I think this match is close, given the Cassar and Berge injuries. Neb wrestlers seem to always keep it close and I think they match up well here. At 197, Schultz is coming off a big win over AA, Warner. I hope Shak is at 100% but I think this match is a toss-up. I'll take Schultz in a close one. 184 is really intriguing as well. Venz is coming off a loss to true freshman, Assad. Maybe I'm wrong ( I usually am) but I assumed Aaron Brooks is ahead of Abe and that's not good for Venz, if true. My mind says this is another toss up but my gut says Brooks by a takedown. 149 is another toss up. I don't know much about Purinton but he does have the better record vs national qualifiers (4-5, Verk is 0-7) and common opponents. I'll say NEB wins here, by dec. Peyton Robb is another guy I don't know much about and I've really been enjoying watching his matches. Nebby has a good one here. Multiple time AA, I think Bonus will be hard to come by here and will be huge (no sh**! Ha). Does anyone think Nebraska has a shot at winning this? See any potential bonus? Written below, is wrestlers records, Bonus Point wins/losses and record vs National Qualifiers for this year only. 125: Alex Thomsen 6-9 / 4 BP wins, 3 losses / 1-7 vs NQ's Brandon Meredith 12-7 / 9 bp wins, 2 losses /1-2 vs NQ's 133: Ridge Lovett 8-5 / 3 BP wins, 2-4 vs NQ RBY 12-0, Returning AA, 7 bonus point wins 141: Chad Red 11-4 / 2x AA / 4 BP wins, 2 losses 3-4 vs NQ this year, 0-1 vs Nick Lee Nick Lee. 11-0 / 2x AA / 10 BP wins 149: Collin Purinton 10-5/ 4 BP wins, 4-5 vs NQ Verk 12-2, NQ, 5 BP wins 157: Peyton Robb 12-3 / 9 BP wins Bo Pipher 8-8 / 4 BP wins / 0-6 vs NQ this yr. 165: Isaiah White 12-2 / Former AA / 0-3 vs VJ Cenzo Joseph 6-0 / 3x AA, 2x Champ, 4 bp wins this yr 174: Mikey Labs 13-4 , AA, 9 BP wins, 0-1 vs Hall Mark Hall 15-0, 3x AA, 1x Champ, 12 BP wins 184: Venz 11-5, AA, 8 bp wins. Coming off a loss to true freshman, Abe Assad, last week. Aaron Brooks 7-0, 3 BP wins 197: Eric Schultz 15-2, 6 BP wins, 7-1 vs NQ Shakur Rasheed 2-1, former AA Hwt: Christian Lance 9-5, 4 bp wins, 2-3 vs NQ Seth Nevills 9-0, 5 bp wins Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBluegill133 289 Report post Posted January 22, 2020 Don't forget 165. Cenzo has always come out on top but him and white have historically had some reaaaaaally close bouts. Realistic dual outcome: 125 - thomsen major meredith 4-0 NE 133 - RBY over Lovett - 4-3 NE 141 - Lee over Red - 4-6 PSU 149 - Purinton over Verk 7-6 NE (possible swing) 157 - Robb over Pipher 10-6 NE (swing) 165 - White over Cenzon 13-6 NE (OT match) 174 - Hall major over Lab 13-10 NE 184 - Venz over Brooks 16-10 NE 197 Shak over Schultz - 16-13 NE 285 Nevills over lance - 16-16 Comes down to criteria...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, JBluegill133 said: Don't forget 165. Cenzo has always come out on top but him and white have historically had some reaaaaaally close bouts. Realistic dual outcome: 125 - thomsen major meredith 4-0 NE 133 - RBY over Lovett - 4-3 NE 141 - Lee over Red - 4-6 PSU 149 - Purinton over Verk 7-6 NE (possible swing) 157 - Robb over Pipher 10-6 NE (swing) 165 - White over Cenzon 13-6 NE (OT match) 174 - Hall major over Lab 13-10 NE 184 - Venz over Brooks 16-10 NE 197 Shak over Schultz - 16-13 NE 285 Nevills over lance - 16-16 Comes down to criteria...... Meredith just lost to Deaugustino by 1 I don’t see Thomsen majoring him 1 LLB reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 86 Report post Posted January 22, 2020 Not that is will all happen but IMO Nebraska has a reasonable shot to win 125, 149, 157, 184, 197 and 285 and are good enough to pull an upset under the right conditions at 141 and 165 and good enough to keep it close at 133 and 174. If the Iowa meet version shows up they could win the match if the Wisconsin meet version shows up then not happening. In the Flo Big 10 rankings the two teams are very close. 1 andegre reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,498 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, BLT said: Not that is will all happen but IMO Nebraska has a reasonable shot to win 125, 149, 157, 184, 197 and 285 and are good enough to pull an upset under the right conditions at 141 and 165 and good enough to keep it close at 133 and 174. If the Iowa meet version shows up they could win the match if the Wisconsin meet version shows up then not happening. In the Flo Big 10 rankings the two teams are very close. One potential influence on the outcome compared to their dual vs Iowa is that dual was in Carver while this one is in Lincoln. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 Penn State can legitimately win every match, too. There isn't a match I call a lock for Nebraska. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviator12 205 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 Schultz could beat Shak. Not saying he will but it’s possible. He’s not 100% back yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 1,077 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 Rasheed can definitely lose. He’s not who he used to be (yet?). I also think Lee is more likely to get bonus points than lose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cementmixer103 71 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 PSU winning 24-6 wouldn't shock me...but also, neither would Nebraska winning. I think Shak takes a L here. Nick Lee has looked awesome all year. I don't think that changes here. I'd love to see White finally get a win over Cenzo. Gonna be a fun one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silvermedal 210 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 White over Cenzo and then Hall by MD over Labriola? Come on. I think both those "realistic outcomes" are unrealistic. Cenzo will win and Hall will win by a few points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konquest 155 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 I am a Nebraska fan, but here's how I see it going: PSU 18 NU 12 Thomsen dec. Meredith 3-0 RBY dec. Lovett 3-3 Lee dec. Red 3-6 Purinton dec. Verkleeren 6-6 Robb dec. Pipher 9-6 Cenzo dec. White 9-9 Hall dec. Labs 9-12 Brooks dec. Venz 9-15 Schultz dec. Rasheed 12-15 Nevills dec. Lance 12-18 There are literally no huge mismatches in this dual where I'd be inclined to predict a bonus point win. There are a few home run hitters on both teams (Cenzo, Rasheed, Red, Venz) but all of those guys are going up against dudes who are VERY unlikely to get mixered or cradled and pinned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,460 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Konquest said: I am a Nebraska fan, but here's how I see it going: PSU 18 NU 12 Thomsen dec. Meredith 3-0 RBY dec. Lovett 3-3 Lee dec. Red 3-6 Purinton dec. Verkleeren 6-6 Robb dec. Pipher 9-6 Cenzo dec. White 9-9 Hall dec. Labs 9-12 Brooks dec. Venz 9-15 Schultz dec. Rasheed 12-15 Nevills dec. Lance 12-18 Well sure, but what if Nevills gets caught up in a game of Stratego with Synder in the basement and misses the bus, then it's another 15-15 tie at best. Anything can happen in dual meets in this new era of failed skin checks & basement sleepovers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited January 23, 2020 by ionel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 Penn state will win handily. Nevraska wins at 125 and 157. Builds hype for next week's dual between penn state and Iowa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simple 296 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said: Meredith just lost to Deaugustino by 1 I don’t see Thomsen majoring him No he didn’t Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,790 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said: Meredith just lost to Deaugustino by 1 I don’t see Thomsen majoring him Meredith lost 7-3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,462 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 My favorite trivia about Joseph vs White is that in the three times they have wrestled there has never been a take down in regulation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cementmixer103 71 Report post Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: My favorite trivia about Joseph vs White is that in the three times they have wrestled there has never been a take down in regulation. I didn't know that! That is interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,498 Report post Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Lots of good matches. Lee vs Red and Cenzo vs White could give any PSU fan heartburn. Even Labriola vs Hall can do that. The two matches I am most interested in are Shak vs Shultz and Brooks vs Venz, especially the latter. Brooks was wearing a big wrap on his right leg vs Rutgers. That was new and I don't think it was really tested in that match. Venz loves to shoot with his right arm to his left to get the trail leg on a left leg lead. That's all in play in this match. Venz will also be the best mat wrestler Brooks has faced and by a wide margin. Venz turns a lot of matches into long mat scrambles and I am interested to see Brooks wrestle this kind of match because it will test him in positions we don't see him in very often. Edited January 24, 2020 by TBar1977 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedicineMan 483 Report post Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Freshman, 8-5 record, undergoing Trial by Fire, faced #1 Gross on 1-12, lost 13-5. Took on #2 DeSanto 1-18, (almost pinned DeSanto with arm bar) lost 7-4. Tonight continues his hardening process stepping into forge against #4 Roman Bravo-Young Edited January 24, 2020 by MedicineMan 1 russelscout reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted January 24, 2020 22 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: My favorite trivia about Joseph vs White is that in the three times they have wrestled there has never been a take down in regulation. It will be different this time. NCAA's last year has Joseph working harder than ever. History of these two will have him pushing and one of them will score at takedown, Joseph going in or White capitalizing on Joseph's pushing the pace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuskerMac 32 Report post Posted January 24, 2020 Well the last time I did a prediction I was terribly wrong and Nebraska was upset by Wisconsin. I did see improvement against Iowa even though the score didn't show it, the dual was decided by 3rd period TDs that mostly when Iowa's way. Nebraska has the guys to win this dual but a few things need to happen. Thomsen needs to get a win, Its really hard to compete in a dual with you keep losing the first match by bonus. If your gonna lose you need to keep it to a DEC. Lovett needs to get to his offense, if he can get a take down, then he is in his world on top and can control the match. The Red that made Murin look average needs to show up. Not the Red that made Moran look above average. Purinton still need to earn his rank. Tonight maybe he can show if he belongs in the TOP 25. Robb could very well be a AA this year. Hes gonna need to get Bonus here to show hes a force to be reckoned with. ( I dont this Berge is going?) White needs to get over the hump. He has been so close at getting the upset, and I really hope it happens tonight. Labs can wrestle with anyone and Hall is no different. Labs can also get majored by Hall pretty easily. Good measuring stick to see where he is and where he needs to be. I dont know whats going on with Venz this year but he hasn't looked like the promising AA he did his freshman year. Hopefully he can get back on track against a really good wrestler. Schulz can wrestle with anyone. If he gets on his offense he can compete with anyone. I hope he does here. Lance hasnt really beat anyone worth mentioning. Who knows. He needs to turn it around. Nebraska can win. Its gonna be tough, Keep losing matches to decisions, make a few upsets, win the matches your suppose to. Nebraska can win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Witherman 384 Report post Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, MedicineMan said: (almost pinned DeSanto with arm bar) 1 1 1032004 and nhs67 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 411 Report post Posted January 24, 2020 My take: Nebraska beats Penn State 18-12 Thomsen dec. Meredith 3-0 RBY dec. Lovett 3-3 Lee dec. Red 3-6 Purinton dec. Verkleeren 6-6 Robb dec. Pipher 9-6 White dec. Joseph 12-6 [White finally catches Joseph after many close matches] Hall dec. Labs 12-9 Venz dec. Brooks 15-9 Schultz dec. Rasheed 18-9 Nevills dec. Lance 18-12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 125-PSU Dec PSU 3-0 133-PSU Dec PSU 6-0 141-PSU Maj PSU 10-0 149-PSU Dec PSU 13-0 157-Neb Dec PSU 13-3 165-PSU Maj PSU 17-3 174-PSU DPin PSU 23-3 184-PSU Dec PSU 26-3 197-PSU Dec PSU 29-3 285-PSU Maj PSU 33-3 Penn State defeats Nebraska at Nebraska 33-3. 125, 149, 157, 184, 197 are all tossups with pinfall potential at 157(Robb), 174(Hall), and 187(Rasheed). Edited January 24, 2020 by nhs67 Stuffs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 411 Report post Posted January 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, nhs67 said: 125-PSU Dec PSU 3-0 133-PSU Dec PSU 6-0 141-PSU Maj PSU 10-0 149-PSU Dec PSU 13-0 157-Neb Dec PSU 13-3 165-PSU Maj PSU 17-3 174-PSU Dec PSU 20-3 184-PSU Dec PSU 23-3 197-PSU Dec PSU 26-3 285-PSU Maj PSU 30-3 Penn State defeats Nebraska at Nebraska 30-3. 125, 149, 157, 184, 197 are all tossups with pinfall potential at 157(Robb), 174(Hall), and 187(Rasheed). Joseph majors White? All their matches have been 1-2 pts apart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
