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1 hour ago, unbiased said:

125 Lee 5

133 Desanto 3

141Lee 5

149 Lugo 3

157 Young 3

165 Joseph 3

174 Hall 3

184 Brooks 3

197 Warner 3

HWT Nevills 3

Iowa 17 PSU 17

PSU wins on match points

Would be something if it goes down like this.  I like RBY and Rasheed to have a chance also.  Obviously Marinelli, Assad and Cassioppi could all win.

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4 hours ago, Mokoma said:

Would be something if it goes down like this.  I like RBY and Rasheed to have a chance also.  Obviously Marinelli, Assad and Cassioppi could all win.

It would be kind of something if this happened.  There are so many toss-up matches in this meet it is crazy.

Honest question, what is the criteria if a match ends in a tie?  Do you have a list of what criteria happens first?  Would Spence have the advantage because he would wrestle first.  Assuming they start at 125.

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10 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Murin quack quack? Meh.

I see a guy with a massive shoulder brace. Clearly there is an issue with the shoulder. No sport is harder on the shoulders than wrestling. None are even close. Last week on FRL Askren demonstrated how he could not touch the back of his head with his right hand because of the abuse on his shoulders over the year.

With that massive brace on his shoulder calling a missed match a duck is lazy.

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8 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Murin quack quack? Meh.

I see a guy with a massive shoulder brace. Clearly there is an issue with the shoulder. No sport is harder on the shoulders than wrestling. None are even close. Last week on FRL Askren demonstrated how he could not touch the back of his head with his right hand because of the abuse on his shoulders over the year.

With that massive brace on his shoulder calling a missed match a duck is lazy.

Agree on Murin. 

He isn't going to duck Nick Lee when he has everything to gain and nothing to lose seed wise. 

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Any way to watch this if you don’t have BTN? It’s going to be an exciting dual! There’s a lot of matches where Iowa is a slight favorite but Penn State could win. Penn state could win 7 matches... it’s highly improbable that they go 7 for 7 in them, but 5 for 7 and a 5-5 split would not surprise me. On the other hand, there’s only one match where penn state is a big favorite (141), so it could get ugly if Iowa performs.

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21 minutes ago, Eagle26 said:

Any way to watch this if you don’t have BTN? It’s going to be an exciting dual! There’s a lot of matches where Iowa is a slight favorite but Penn State could win. Penn state could win 7 matches... it’s highly improbable that they go 7 for 7 in them, but 5 for 7 and a 5-5 split would not surprise me. On the other hand, there’s only one match where penn state is a big favorite (141), so it could get ugly if Iowa performs.

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125 - Lee by pin. It's a big match. He's going to want to put up as many team points as he can get. I can see him avoiding the tech to make sure he gets the pin. 6-0 Iowa

133 - DeSanto by a takedown. 9-0 Iowa

141 - N. Lee by tech. He looks too good right now to do anything but to a back up. 9-5 Iowa

149 - Won't be high scoring but I see Lugo winning close but clear. Maybe 4-1? 6-2? 12-5 Iowa

157 - Pipher is wrestling adequately but the spot isn't his long term. He's done a nice job of mitigating the losses he's taken so I only see Young getting 3pts here. 15-5 Iowa at break. 

165 - Cenzo's time for revenge. He gets it done. I'm guessing something like 8-6. 15-8 Iowa. 

174 - This isn't a homer pick. Hall gets bonus here. Either by major or pin. Calling major. Something like 13-5 where he turns it up at the end to get the points before the clock runs out. 15-12 Iowa. 

184 - Assad looks very promising but I think Brooks is just a hair better right now. Brooks by dec. 15-15

197 - Shakur is not healthy. He's not looking how he should and I think either his knee really isn't 100% or he's still apprehensive about pushing too hard on it. Warner gets the win. 18-15 Iowa.

HWT - See 184 but with the teams reversed. Nevills looks good Cassioppi is a little better right now. Iowa wins the duel 21-15.

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Penn state vs Iowa wrestling predictions for tomorrow.
125:Spencer lee winner by tech  Iowa 5-0
133:desanto vs rby: desanto by decision Iowa 8-0
141:nick lee vs max Murin: lee by major Iowa 8-4
149:Verkleeren vs Lugo: lugo by decision Iowa 11-4
157: kaleb young vs pipher: young by major 15-4 Iowa
165:marinelli vs Joseph: Joseph by decision (50/50 match) iowa 15-7
174:hall vs Kemerer:hall by decision (wouldn’t be surprised if Kemerer won Iowa 15-10
184:brooks vs Assad: Assad  by decision Iowa 18-10
197: Rasheed by decision Iowa 18-13
Heavyweight:Nevills vs cassioppi:cassoppi by decision Iowa 21-13

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I do not think PSU can keep it close - and I am NOT an Iowa fan. 

IMHO It is extremely doubtful PSU can win any of these weights

125 - 133 - 149 - 157 - 285

It is just as doubtful Iowa can win at 141 or 174

That leaves 3 toss up weights

165 - 184 - 197

If Iowa wins 1 out of those 3 - PSU is a breakfast food (toast)

 

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125: Spencer lee wins by tech  Iowa 5-0
133:  Desanto vs RBY: RBY by pin  PSU 5-6 (my upset guess)
141: Nick Lee vs Max Murin: Lee by dec PSU 5-9
149: Verkleeren vs Lugo: Lugo by dec PSU 8-9
157: Kaleb Young vs Pipher: Young by major Iowa 12-9 
165: Marinelli vs Joseph: Joseph by decision tied 12-12
174: Hall vs Kemerer: Hall by major PSU 16-12
184: Brooks vs Assad: Brooks  by decision PSU 19-12
197: Rasheed by major PSU 23-12
Heavyweight: Nevills vs Cassioppi: Cassoppi by decision PSU 23-15

 

PSU 23-15

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34 minutes ago, Wrestlingfan1997 said:

Penn state vs Iowa wrestling predictions for tomorrow.
125:Spencer lee winner by tech  Iowa 5-0
133:desanto vs rby: desanto by decision Iowa 8-0
141:nick lee vs max Murin: lee by major Iowa 8-4
149:Verkleeren vs Lugo: lugo by decision Iowa 11-4
157: kaleb young vs pipher: young by major 15-4 Iowa
165:marinelli vs Joseph: Joseph by decision (50/50 match) iowa 15-7
174:hall vs Kemerer:hall by decision (wouldn’t be surprised if Kemerer won Iowa 15-10
184:brooks vs Assad: Assad  by decision Iowa 18-10
197: Rasheed by decision Iowa 18-13
Heavyweight:Nevills vs cassioppi:cassoppi by decision Iowa 21-13

 

4 minutes ago, stp said:

125: Spencer lee wins by tech  Iowa 5-0
133:  Desanto vs RBY: RBY by pin  PSU 5-6 (my upset guess)
141: Nick Lee vs Max Murin: Lee by dec PSU 5-9
149: Verkleeren vs Lugo: Lugo by dec PSU 8-9
157: Kaleb Young vs Pipher: Young by major Iowa 12-9 
165: Marinelli vs Joseph: Joseph by decision tied 12-12
174: Hall vs Kemerer: Hall by major PSU 16-12
184: Brooks vs Assad: Brooks  by decision PSU 19-12
197: Rasheed by major PSU 23-12
Heavyweight: Nevills vs Cassioppi: Cassoppi by decision PSU 23-15

 

PSU 23-15

 

No Max Murin tonight. Carter Happel (Jaydin Eierman? Interesting) instead.

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I'll give this a go.

My first three Penn State were hella close... last was... not so much.

125-Iowa Pin. Lee pins because he knows he has to.

Iowa 6-0

133-Iowa DQ. RBY stalled out. Carver #1. Will there be more?

Iowa 12-0

141-Penn State Tech. Lee is immune to momentum and Carver magix.

Iowa 12-5

149-Penn State Decision. Reverse Carvering. Verk is an odd duck. Lugo is brought back down to Earth 

Iowa 12-8

157-Iowa Decision. Young beats Berge and leaves NO doubt about who is the better wrestler this night 

Iowa 15-8

165-Penn State Decision. Cenzo flips the script. Controls it and never has the match in doubt 

Iowa 15-11

174-Penn State Decision. A 3rd period scramble is what decides this one.

Iowa 15-14

184-Penn State Decision. Brooks is just a little better in every area and it shows as Assad is slapped by the momentum of the previous two slogs of defeat for the young Carver native.

Penn State 17-15

197-Iowa Decision. Warner outathletes Shak to give him a losing record on the year.

Iowa 18-17

285-Iowa Pin

Iowa 24-17. Nevills actually up in the third, chooses neutral. Caught backpedaling and Cassiopi sticks him.

Squawkeyes win.

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I'll give it a shot myself.

Iowa a favorite at 125, 149, and 157. Lets go 12-0 (6,3,3)

PSU a favorite at 141 & 174. 12-8 (5,3)

Iowa slight favorite at 133 & 285. 18-8

PSU slight at 165. Before the season I would have said Bull but Joseph has just looked much better this year. 18-11

Total toss up - 184 and 197. So you could have anywhere from 24-11 to 18-17. It's one of the neat things about wrestling that dual results don't necessarily equate to tournament and vice versa.

A couple points. I think people go overboard predicting bonus points at the top level. Predicting Mark Hall to major Kemerrer at CH is a stretch. I can see it happening one time in a hundred.

A month ago Brooks would have been most everybody's pick to win against anyone at 184. Also, is anyone going to be stunned if Shak beats hot and cold Warner? Maybe like 4 years ago and we get a shirt pulled.

Finally, would anyone be stunned if RBY had a closer match with DeSanto than last year? If not,  then he is right there.

I would not bet against Cael and PSU pulling out a match nobody thought possible. His track record suggests that is more likely than not. I'll go with 6 wins for Iowa and 4 for Penn State with one bonus each & several matches coming down to the end.

Iowa 125, 133, 149, 157, 197 and 285.

PSU 141, 165, 174 and 184

Iowa 21-14 but IMO onl 125 & 141 are a given. Every other match I could see going either way. If this match was at Penn State we might could see an upset but beating Iowa in Iowa is awfully tough.

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1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

This makes no sense.  Even if Beard won NCAAs Iowa would still win the team title by 30+ points.

If Beard wins the NCAA title Penn State would be a favorite to win, what are you smoking???  There is no chance of a 30+ point loss at NCAA’s with this scenario.

This would like give PSU 4 champs (Lee, Joseph, Hall and Beard), plus AA’s from RBY, Brooks and Nevills.  

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Anyone overseas watching this?  I have tried multiple times to access BTN since they moved to the Fox App and have never found legal  or pirated access.  I am happy to pay.  Anyone have any ideas? 

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