Lurker 1,397 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lurie92 said: 2 points Sorry to Hijack the thread, but Lee vs Mckee….McKee hitting those head pinches is why I HATE FREESTYLE SCORING. If it was FS he would have been up 8-0, and at no point did he establish control or dominance... Folk>free. The counter argument to that was that it was a beautiful technique that put his opponent on his back, in danger, and scrambling for his life....for which he was rewarded nothing. And not to get too argumentative with you, but it would have been 4-1. Lee was on a knee for both exposures, and he would have gotten 1 reversal. Big difference down three vs two points from superiority. It’s just a matter of preference, for me free>folk. Edited February 10, 2020 by Lurker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stp 544 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 9 hours ago, WillieBoy said: All those Biblical types love this idea since Unicorns are mentioned nine times in the Bible. No mention of Cats... A bit reaching, but typical of the media industry. "A re'em, also reëm (Hebrew: רְאֵם), is an animal mentioned nine times in the Hebrew Bible and variously translated as a unicorn or a wild ox." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 886 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, 82bordeaux said: I'd love it if you were right. But I think the only way this happens is if Pletcher is smoking your pipe with you before the match. Although what are the odds that Tan Tom doesn't send Pletcher out Saturday night. He may prefer to see round one at Rutgers on a neutral mat. I guess we already knew it, but if one of them ducks then even more proof of duals don't matter. Unless maybe tOSU bumps up Pletcher/Sasso? 125: Heinselman dec Meredith 3-0 tOSU 133: RBY maj Decatur 4-3 PSU 141: Lee tech backup 9-3 PSU 149: Pletcher maj Verk 9-7 PSU 157: Sasso maj Pipher/Gardner 11-9 tOSU 165: Joseph dec Smith 12-11 PSU 174: Hall dec Romero 15-11 PSU 184: Jordan dec Brooks 15-14 (tOSU would need this upset to win IMO) 197: Moore major Rasheed 18-15 tOSU 285: Nevills dec Traub 18-18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 387 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, TBar1977 said: Both Lee and Pletcher look awesome this year. Anyone writing either of them off against the other is going a bridge too far. Should be a great match on Sunday. I wouldn't want you to miss it. Its on Saturday. Probably a typo, but better safe than sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 272 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, 1032004 said: I guess we already knew it, but if one of them ducks then even more proof of duals don't matter. Unless maybe tOSU bumps up Pletcher/Sasso? 125: Heinselman dec Meredith 3-0 tOSU 133: RBY maj Decatur 4-3 PSU 141: Lee tech backup 9-3 PSU 149: Pletcher maj Verk 9-7 PSU 157: Sasso maj Pipher/Gardner 11-9 tOSU 165: Joseph dec Smith 12-11 PSU 174: Hall dec Romero 15-11 PSU 184: Jordan dec Brooks 15-14 (tOSU would need this upset to win IMO) 197: Moore major Rasheed 18-15 tOSU 285: Nevills dec Traub 18-18 This is very unlikely. Lee would likely pin backup, and Pletcher would only win a decision at best against Verkleeran. I might even favor Verkleeran with the size difference. Ohio State has very little chance to win this meet. 22-11 is more likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,837 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I wouldn't want you to miss it. Its on Saturday. Probably a typo, but better safe than sorry. I know when it is. Its on BTN which I have. I actually have a friend in from out of town and have to do the whole host thing and these fine people know zilch about wrestling, so I am taping it and will watch after they leave. Life is complicated some times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 701 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 We could have national champs named Lee at 125, 141, and 149. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 886 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Mokoma said: This is very unlikely. Lee would likely pin backup, and Pletcher would only win a decision at best against Verkleeran. I might even favor Verkleeran with the size difference. Ohio State has very little chance to win this meet. 22-11 is more likely. No way Verk beats Pletcher, but I could see it being only a decision. The least likely thing is Jordan beating Brooks which would be 21-15 if you flip it, I think everything else is plausible if not likely. Just trying to think of a scenario where Ryan could duck Lee but still claim to be trying to win the dual. But in all likelihood their best shot of winning of course is with Pletcher beating Lee. Lee is not guaranteed to pin the backup. Yes his pin of McKee was nice but he does "only" have 3 other pins on the year, and they were in the first week of the season against guys from Navy, Bloomsburg and Maryland. Happel was pinned too, but if tOSU doesn't send out Pletcher, I'm betting they can find a guy that can avoid getting pinned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 272 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: No way Verk beats Pletcher, but I could see it being only a decision. The least likely thing is Jordan beating Brooks which would be 21-15 if you flip it, I think everything else is plausible if not likely. Just trying to think of a scenario where Ryan could duck Lee but still claim to be trying to win the dual. But in all likelihood their best shot of winning of course is with Pletcher beating Lee. Lee is not guaranteed to pin the backup. Yes his pin of McKee was nice but he does "only" have 3 other pins on the year, and they were in the first week of the season against guys from Navy, Bloomsburg and Maryland. Happel was pinned too, but if tOSU doesn't send out Pletcher, I'm betting they can find a guy that can avoid getting pinned. I will be very surprised if OSU can keep it to 21-15 at BJC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chitown 22 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 21 hours ago, Mokoma said: This is my prediction, and I’m not even sure it’s an outlandish prediction. This match will not be close. Not outlandish, with the flurry of scrambling these two potentially bring, and Lee's length, there are times in the Pletcher's matches where he is susceptible to the nearside cradle. It will happen in one of these three matches (Dual, Big Ten's, or NCAA's)...book it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,849 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 14 hours ago, WillieBoy said: All those Biblical types love this idea since Unicorns are mentioned nine times in the Bible. No mention of Cats... Lions are cats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestlingfan1997 6 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 Man I’m a big psu fan and I think pletcher wins the title this year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82bordeaux 90 Report post Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Wrestlingfan1997 said: Man I’m a big psu fan and I think pletcher wins the title this year I'm a bigger PSU fan. I think Lee will be the Champ. 1 vsnej reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestlingfan1997 6 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 What makes you think you’re a bigger psu fan? I live in state college Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 758 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wrestlingfan1997 said: What makes you think you’re a bigger psu fan? I live in state college He said it first.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,042 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 5:50 PM, Mokoma said: This is my prediction, and I’m not even sure it’s an outlandish prediction. This match will not be close. its totally outlandish. But those are the only predictions worth making... 1 Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 387 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, Wrestlingfan1997 said: What makes you think you’re a bigger psu fan? I live in state college Did you move to State College to be near PSU? Or did you become a PSU fan because of geographic proximity? If the latter then maybe the wine guy takes it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,042 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Wrestlingfan1997 said: What makes you think you’re a bigger psu fan? I live in state college "i'm a loser" "I'm a bigger loser!" 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,397 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 Aaaand Neeeeewwwww.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestlingfan1997 6 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Did you move to State College to be near PSU? Or did you become a PSU fan because of geographic proximity? If the latter then maybe the wine guy takes it. I was born in state college Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOhioState 417 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 If it comes down to the last 30 seconds, I'm not betting against Pletcher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 272 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 3 hours ago, hammerlockthree said: its totally outlandish. But those are the only predictions worth making... Do you expect it to be a close match? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,042 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Mokoma said: Do you expect it to be a close match? Yeah. Pletcher is 2 feet tall, who was the last guy who put up a football score on him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRude 15 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 5:50 PM, Mokoma said: This is my prediction, and I’m not even sure it’s an outlandish prediction. This match will not be close. There are several subscription wrestling sites and podcasts, and yet you are giving away this in-depth analysis for free. Bold move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 272 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: Yeah. Pletcher is 2 feet tall, who was the last guy who put up a football score on him? Tariq had nearly 100, or at least it felt that way. That was 2 years ago though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
