Lurker 1,383 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 That two time world and defending Olympic Champion moved from his home in Columbus to the NLWC to try and get better results at the upcoming Games....but didn’t make the team?? How would the non PSU fans respond? And for that matter....what would the PSU fans have to say?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,763 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 Pretty sure the non PSU fans would claim "Carl" sold him a bill of goods, or some other thing to make it out like NLWC misled or otherwise failed him. Isn't that the SOP? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,453 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Pretty sure the non PSU fans would claim "Carl" sold him a bill of goods, or some other thing to make it out like NLWC misled or otherwise failed him. Isn't that the SOP? you can't get butt hurt over something that hasn't happened yet... give it time... you will get plenty of time to answer every laughing post when cox is our 2020 rep... 1 AHamilton reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,383 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Pretty sure the non PSU fans would claim "Carl" sold him a bill of goods, or some other thing to make it out like NLWC misled or otherwise failed him. Isn't that the SOP? I’m not sure what “SOP” is? And I should have mentioned I’m not at all saying that’s what’s going to happen. To me it’s a pick ‘em between the two. It just occurred to me...man if that does happen....imagine all the chat room fodder for all the keyboard tough guys/hypocrites out there! (On both sides) Edited February 11, 2020 by Lurker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pennsy Kraken 19 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 Ira would want a refund Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,763 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, LJB said: you can't get butt hurt over something that hasn't happened yet... give it time... you will get plenty of time to answer every laughing post when cox is our 2020 rep... OK Bud. Edited February 11, 2020 by TBar1977 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 Even if Snyder makes the Oly team, it seems anything less than gold in Tokyo will be considered a failure to his critics. This would be true whether he stayed at the OhioRTC or not. The expectation level has been through the roof, and unfairly so. 1 Blue Dragons reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,453 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: You're the one who asked. SOP is Standard Operating Procedure. i didn't ask... SOP is not some secret acronym... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,763 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Lurker said: I’m not sure what “SOP” is? Standard Operating Procedure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,383 Report post Posted February 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Standard Operating Procedure Gotcha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TBar1977 said: Pretty sure the non PSU fans would claim "Carl" sold him a bill of goods, or some other thing to make it out like NLWC misled or otherwise failed him. Isn't that the SOP? I understand "Carl" is the real reason Dan Gable lost that final NCAA match as well as the comeback match against LeRoy Kemp. He's also the reason Robin Reed quit wrestling before "Carl" enrolled at ISU and John Smith retired from active competition. "Carl" is the only human who can beat Gort, the world destroyer as seen in the film THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL. Actually beat him on the mat without having to use the phrase "klaatu barada nikto". "Carl" is supernatural and grew up bench pressing the Heber Creeper in Heber City, UT so the railroad workers could service it without having to use an industrial jack. If something good happens in the world, "Carl" is the reason. Edited February 12, 2020 by WillieBoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 811 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, pamela said: Even if Snyder makes the Oly team, it seems anything less than gold in Tokyo will be considered a failure to his critics. This would be true whether he stayed at the OhioRTC or not. The expectation level has been through the roof, and unfairly so. Well based on his comments, it seems he would consider that a failure also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocBZ 89 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 I can't see Snyder beating Sadulaev or Mohamaddian even if he gets the berth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treep2000 901 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 I'm a big fan of Snyder. Always like the kid, and then the man. When he won his WC's and OLY's, he wasn't nearly as "stocky". I fear that he focused too much on lifting, and if you watch his matches, especially the losses, there's a level of "rigidity" in his motion and movements that he didn't have when he was younger and more "agile". I've said it on here before, and I'll say it again, even though I'll get heckled. He needs to train differently... and not just wrestling. Gain more range of motion and movement. Focus less on "lifting strength" and more on "functional strength". His technique will remain so long as he practices wrestling the way he has been. Sometimes, less is more, and in this case, I think less muscle "volume" will equate to more versatility and dynamism. That being said... I see Cox beating Snyder 2 matches to 0. Both super close. But Cox will be able to take Snyder down due to Athleticism, and Snyder will not be able to return the favor due to the aforementioned rigidity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crash 138 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 The evidence that god is pissed at Carl is increasing every day. I would blame it all on god since god is allegedly to be thanked for all of Carl's earlier success.Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 636 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 I'm a big fan of Snyder. Always like the kid, and then the man. When he won his WC's and OLY's, he wasn't nearly as "stocky". I fear that he focused too much on lifting, and if you watch his matches, especially the losses, there's a level of "rigidity" in his motion and movements that he didn't have when he was younger and more "agile". I've said it on here before, and I'll say it again, even though I'll get heckled. He needs to train differently... and not just wrestling. Gain more range of motion and movement. Focus less on "lifting strength" and more on "functional strength". His technique will remain so long as he practices wrestling the way he has been. Sometimes, less is more, and in this case, I think less muscle "volume" will equate to more versatility and dynamism. That being said... I see Cox beating Snyder 2 matches to 0. Both super close. But Cox will be able to take Snyder down due to Athleticism, and Snyder will not be able to return the favor due to the aforementioned rigidity.I think Snyder would benefit from a power yoga program. He is way too rigid. His hips seem tight compared to a true freestyler like Kyle Dake. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk 1 treep2000 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,383 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, cjc007 said: I think Snyder would benefit from a power yoga program. He is way too rigid. His hips seem tight compared to a true freestyler like Kyle Dake. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk You had me until “compared to a true freestyler”. What credentials does one need to become a true freestyler if two world and Olympic golds does not qualify? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 636 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 You had me until “compared to a true freestyler”. What credentials does one need to become a true freestyler if two world and Olympic golds does not qualify?Good hips, good upper body series, and par Tere chops. Kyle has a great low ankle, a snap down, and that's about it. I know he's gutted and thrown lower tier guys, but he really avoids those positions against elite guys. His pace was a huge reason behind his success imo Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,383 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, cjc007 said: Good hips, good upper body series, and par Tere chops. Kyle has a great low ankle, a snap down, and that's about it. I know he's gutted and thrown lower tier guys, but he really avoids those positions against elite guys. His pace was a huge reason behind his success imo Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk So winning two worlds and olympics isn’t enough? Okie doke. I always felt results kind of were kinda the big factor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrDream 58 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) The narrative should be....Snyder moved to NLWC to improve his scrambling abilities that will put him in the best position to contend for an Olympic Gold against the best of the world. It's a learning process. There will be bumps in the road (Pellicone), but, Cael and Varner have had major success at the upper weights and their specialty is technique progression. I would love to see Snyder put the strongman weights away....but, it seems that he never will and strongly believe that bench pressing 405lbs helps him wrestle. I personally don't....but to each their own. Edited February 12, 2020 by MrDream Error Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokieHWT 587 Report post Posted February 12, 2020 Not a PSU fan but I am a Snyder fan. I think it was the right move and will pay off. Cael can scout anyone and Snyder will have Cox figured out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 636 Report post Posted February 13, 2020 So winning two worlds and olympics isn’t enough? Okie doke. I always felt results kind of were kinda the big factor If he doesn't change his style he won't win another gold medal at the Olympics or worlds. I guess we will see. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,383 Report post Posted February 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, cjc007 said: If he doesn't change his style he won't win another gold medal at the Olympics or worlds. I guess we will see. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Don’t disagree with that. Honestly even if he does I don’t know that he’s beating Sad again. Just too good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 359 Report post Posted February 13, 2020 Well there’s a ton of stuff that Treep2000 said about SnyderMan that I agree with. If J’den has one advantage over Kyle it’s defense, and funk. So we’ll see. 1 treep2000 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,453 Report post Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 3:30 PM, TBar1977 said: OK Bud. nice edit... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
