VakAttack 3,990 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: If the forums is whatever you want....your argument is nonsensical. Have you ever played a sport? No, the idea being that forums are supposed to be fun, not just the sterile exchange of ideas in nonsensical. I have played many, many sports. I just got done playing some pretty intense indoor volleyball, actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,990 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, ugarte said: i'm sorry, the minnesota kid was reacting just like the kid from purdue. desanto didn't kiss the gopher, he did what he always does when he's riding when the match ends: he stands up by pushing off the other wrestler's head. he does this every single time. this time, the other guy took exception. desanto walking back into him was posturing bull****. desanto is a great wrestler but he's definitely also an obnoxious little jerk. The match was still going on. Like, there was literally time on the clock. 1 AHamilton reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,582 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, VakAttack said: No, the idea being that forums are supposed to be fun, not just the sterile exchange of ideas in nonsensical. I have played many, many sports. I just got done playing some pretty intense indoor volleyball, actually. Exchanging ideas is nonsensical...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,990 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: Exchanging ideas is nonsensical...... Didn't you just argue that forums are only for this purpose? Or are you trying to claim that I am arguing that exchanging ideas is nonsensical, and then mock me for your own self-created point that you have attributed to me? 1 GockeS reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,582 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Didn't you just argue that forums are only for this purpose? Or are you trying to claim that I am arguing that exchanging ideas is nonsensical, and then mock me for your own self-created point that you have attributed to me? Dude you can have this one I'm not up to a philosophical/sematic discussion on this point. Edited February 20, 2020 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squire 1 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 Desanto is an unbelievable wresting talent but a complete head case and frequently a total tool. I hope he continues his show into Nationals and it costs the Cockeyes team points. Then we get get to watch Tom Brands mumble thru another barely coherent take on”circus boy “ 1 TFBJR reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,990 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: Dude you can have this one I'm not up to a philosophical/sematic discussion on this point. You interjected, I am trying to clarify exactly what it is you're trying to argue here. 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sstern 190 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Daybreak said: If you’re referring to me, I’m 33 mate. Jumped to your own defense too quick, pops. Tell Austin I said hello. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 515 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 8 hours ago, VakAttack said: The match was still going on. Like, there was literally time on the clock. the score was 24-8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,990 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 the score was 24-8Desanto didn't hit him with a move, he just waited for the ref to call the tech. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 515 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Desanto didn't hit him with a move, he just waited for the ref to call the tech. i'm saying ADS was holding his hand on the dude's head way longer than was necessary. he'd already released the cradle; he was standing! he knew the score and exactly what he was doing. it wasn't a war crime but neither is getting your lingering hand slapped away. Edited February 20, 2020 by ugarte Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, ugarte said: i'm saying ADS was holding his hand on the dude's head way longer than was necessary. he'd already released the cradle; he was standing! he knew the score and exactly what he was doing. it wasn't a war crime but neither is getting your lingering hand slapped away. Dryden pushed him away in the face. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 464 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) On 2/19/2020 at 5:30 PM, VakAttack said: Man, some of you seems like real "life of the party" types. Outside of Desanto's two very public issues where guys could have been (but thankfully weren't) hurt 2+ years ago, everything else is all good theater, which is all sports are: theater. We've got all different kinds of it, but only the Iowa guys (and Gable Steveson) seem to catch any flak for it. We've got Minnesota fans , with Gable on the team right now AND a history of Mike Thorn existing, getting upset about Desanto. .. Edited March 22, 2021 by TFBJR .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 515 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, russelscout said: Dryden pushed him away in the face. also not a bad reaction. reap what you sow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 464 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) On 2/19/2020 at 6:38 PM, gimpeltf said: He didn't swing at him, he pushed him away. Edited March 22, 2021 by TFBJR No need to pile on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 464 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) On 2/19/2020 at 7:01 PM, GockeS said: cancel culture is when someone is cut out, boycotted b/c of their beliefs so in this case.. b/c of being less than perfect. i think we would be surprised at how many less than perfect wrestlers there are but im not really surprised. Reductio ad absurdum - Edited March 22, 2021 by TFBJR No need to pile on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, ugarte said: also not a bad reaction. reap what you sow. To shove someones face away? Yeah reap what you sow. IDK why anyone can be mad at Desanto when Dryden does that to him. 1 GockeS reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,490 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 Brands got pretty animated discussing Desanto. "How many discussions have we had to have? How many people in that athletic dept. have helped him?" Spent a lot of time talking about this guy's seemingly fragile psyche. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silvermedal 210 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 There has been mention more than once that Desanto is mildly autistic (Aspergers). Is that true? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,981 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, TFBJR said: Reductio ad absurdum - Less than Perfect? Is that really what people are saying - ADS is not PERFECT so we should cancel him? Or are they saying he is, at best, among the worst and deserves scorn? Let's just jump to Godwin's and be done with the thread. He may very well be close to the "worst", at least most visibly, in DI wrestling. I would agree with that. However, that "worst" is still super TAME compared to many DI athletes in more high profile sports. Simply put, what he has done at Iowa isn't worth much more than an eyebrow raise in the grand scheme of things. Intentionally trying to injure people while at Drexel was, but holding onto something that happened years ago, while at a different University doesn't hold much weight in my eyes, while judging him as a Hawkeye..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Brands got pretty animated discussing Desanto. "How many discussions have we had to have? How many people in that athletic dept. have helped him?" Spent a lot of time talking about this guy's seemingly fragile psyche. Do you think that is time well spent? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, MSU158 said: He may very well be close to the "worst", at least most visibly, in DI wrestling. I would agree with that. However, that "worst" is still super TAME compared to many DI athletes in more high profile sports. Simply put, what he has done at Iowa isn't worth much more than an eyebrow raise in the grand scheme of things. Intentionally trying to injure people while at Drexel was, but holding onto something that happened years ago, while at a different University doesn't hold much weight in my eyes, while judging him as a Hawkeye..... I would much rather have a guy that we are trying to fix a few sportsmanship issues with than a guy who has a drinking, drug, school, or problems with females ie. Daton Racer. All of the outrage and accusations that Desanto is the worst? I have a hard time buying that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 515 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, russelscout said: I would much rather have a guy that we are trying to fix a few sportsmanship issues with than a guy who has a drinking, drug, school, or problems with females ie. Daton Racer. All of the outrage and accusations that Desanto is the worst? I have a hard time buying that. come on we're talking about on-the-mat sportsmanship. bringing an accused rapist into the discussion doesn't serve your argument that desanto acts like a jerk all that well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, ugarte said: come on we're talking about on-the-mat sportsmanship. bringing an accused rapist into the discussion doesn't serve your argument that desanto acts like a jerk all that well. Ok, but we have people talking about kicking the kid off the team in this thread. A little perspective is necessary IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 464 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) On 2/20/2020 at 9:32 AM, ugarte said: come on we're talking about on-the-mat sportsmanship. bringing an accused rapist into the discussion doesn't serve your argument that desanto acts like a jerk all that well. Edited March 22, 2021 by TFBJR No need to pile on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
