Jimmy Cinnabon 265 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 Noteworthy - no Kirkvliet at heavy. Pipher at 157. 125, Meredith is 14 133, Bravo-Young is 2 141, Lee is 1 149, Verkleeren is 8 157, Pipher is 13 165, Joseph is 1 174, Hall is 2 184, Brooks is 1 197, Rasheed is 6 285, Nevills is 7 1 Marcus Cisero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malcolmJfromPA 23 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 Are these official or just what FLO projects? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 265 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 Official preseeds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,486 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 So only Penn State gets pre-seeds? ;_; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Witherman 368 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 https://bigten.org/news/2020/3/2/big-ten-wrestling-pre-seeds-announced.aspx heres the full article Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryCallo 41 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 WOW - Parris got the #1 seed over Gable - surprising but it may not matter much - I really do not see either of them losing before the Finals. What sorts of things could cause these Pre-seeds to change before the Tourney starts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 265 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, JerryCallo said: WOW - Parris got the #1 seed over Gable - surprising but it may not matter much - I really do not see either of them losing before the Finals. What sorts of things could cause these Pre-seeds to change before the Tourney starts? failed drug test 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 372 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, JerryCallo said: WOW - Parris got the #1 seed over Gable - surprising but it may not matter much - I really do not see either of them losing before the Finals. What sorts of things could cause these Pre-seeds to change before the Tourney starts? weigh in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 1,155 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 Quite a meat grinder at 133 on the other side of Gross: 133 lbs. 1. Seth Gross, WIS 2. Roman Bravo-Young, PSU 3. Austin DeSanto, IOWA 4. Travis Piotrowski, ILL 5. Sebastian Rivera, NU 1 HurricaneWrestling2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 282 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, jchapman said: Quite a meat grinder at 133 on the other side of Gross: 133 lbs. 1. Seth Gross, WIS 2. Roman Bravo-Young, PSU 3. Austin DeSanto, IOWA 4. Travis Piotrowski, ILL 5. Sebastian Rivera, NU At least Rivera at 5, keeps the balance of power as it should. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 204 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mokoma said: At least Rivera at 5, keeps the balance of power as it should. Exactly. Anything other than 5 or 12 wouldn't have been fair to RBY or DeSanto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 204 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, JerryCallo said: WOW - Parris got the #1 seed over Gable - surprising but it may not matter much - I really do not see either of them losing before the Finals. What sorts of things could cause these Pre-seeds to change before the Tourney starts? Considering Gable didn't wrestle in the Michigan dual, Parris surely deserved the top seed. It's essentially meaningless, but when both are undefeated (or otherwise equal), reward the guy who showed up. 1 PSUMike reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 282 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, whaletail said: Exactly. Anything other than 5 or 12 wouldn't have been fair to RBY or DeSanto. 4 or 13 would have been just fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 204 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mokoma said: 4 or 13 would have been just fine. 4 wasn't going to happen (since Rivera inj. defaulted to Piotrowski), and 13 was unlikely (since Rivera beat Sandoval). But yes, they would've placed him topside, where he belongs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fightingsioux 51 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) BIG 10 PRE-SEEDS 125 lbs. (8 NCAA qualifiers) 1. Spencer Lee, IOWA 2. Devin Schroder, PUR 3. Patrick McKee, MN 4. Justin Cardani, IL 5. Jack Medley, MI 6. Michael DeAugustino, NU 7. Liam Cronin, IN 8. Nic Aguilar, RUT 9. Eric Barnett, WI 10. Alex Thomsen, NEB 11. Malik Heinselman, OSU 12. Logan Griffin, MSU 13. Brandon Cray, MD 14. Brandon Meredith, PSU 133 lbs. (7 qualifiers) 1. Seth Gross, WI 2. Roman Bravo-Young, PSU 3. Austin DeSanto, IOWA 4. Travis Piotrowski, IL 5. Sebastian Rivera, NW 6. Ridge Lovett, NEB 7. Sammy Alvarez, RUT 8. Joey Silva, MI 9. Crayden Rooks, IN 10. Garrett Pepple, MSU 11. Boo Dryden, MN 12. Travis Ford-Melton, PUR 13. King Sandoval, MD 14. Jordan Decatur, OSU 141 lbs. (8 qualifiers) 1. Nick Lee, PSU 2. Luke Pletcher, OSU 3. Max Murin, IOWA 4. Chad Red, NEB 5. Tristan Moran, WIS 6. Mitch McKee, MINN 7. Dylan Duncan, ILL 8. Parker Filius, PUR 9. Cole Mattin, MICH 10. Alec McKenna, NU 11. Joe Aragona, RU 12. Matt Santos, MSU 13. Eddie Bolivar, IND 14. Hunter Baxter, MD 149 lbs. (10 qualifiers) 1. Sammy Sasso, OSU 2. Pat Lugo, IOWA 3. Brayton Lee, MINN 4. Kanen Storr, MICH 5. Graham Rooks, IND 6. Cole Martin, WIS 7. Collin Purinton, NEB 8. Jarod Verkleeren, PSU 9. Yahya Thomas, NU 10. Griffin Parriott, PUR 11. Gerard Angelo RU 12. Alex Hrisopoulos, MSU 13. Mousa Jodeh, ILL 14. Ryan Garlitz, MD 157 lbs. (6 qualifiers) 1. Ryan Deakin, NU 2. Kaleb Young, IOWA 3. Kendall Coleman, PUR 4. Will Lewan, MICH 5. Ryan Thomas, MINN 6. Jake Tucker, MSU 7. Peyton Robb, NEB 8. Eric Barone, ILL 9. Michael VanBrill, RU 10. Jahi Jones, MD 11. Elijah Cleary, OSU 12. Garrett Model, WIS 13. Bo Pipher, PSU 14. Fernie Silva, IND 165 lbs. (8 qualifiers) 1. Vincenzo Joseph, PSU 2. Alex Marinelli, IOWA 3. Evan Wick, WIS 4. Isaiah White, NEB 5. Ethan Smith, OSU 6. Shayne Oster, NU 7. Dan Braunagel, ILL 8. Bailee O’Reilly, MINN 9. Drew Hughes, MSU 10. Kyle Cochran, MD 11. Brett Donner, RU 12. Tyler Meisiner, MICH 13. Tanner Webster, PUR 14. Diego Lemley, IND 174 lbs. (9 qualifiers) 1. Michael Kemerer, IOWA 2. Mark Hall, PSU 3. Dylan Lydy, PUR 4. Devin Skatzka, MINN 5. Mikey Labriola, NEB 6. Kaleb Romero, OSU 7. Joseph Gunther, ILL 8. Layne Malczewski, MSU 9. Tyler Morland, NU 10. Willie Scott, RU 11. Jared Krattiger, WIS 12. Phillip Spadafora, MD 13. Max Maylor, MICH 14. NO ENTRY, IND 184 lbs. (10 qualifiers) 1. Aaron Brooks, PSU 2. Cameron Caffey, MSU 3. Abe Assad, IOWA 4. Taylor Venz, NEB 5. Billy Janzer, RU 6. Rocky Jordan, OSU 7. Zach Braunagel, ILL 8. Owen Webster, MINN 9. Johnny Sebastian, WIS 10. Jelani Embree, MICH 11. Max Lyon, PUR 12. Jack Jessen, NU 13. Jake Hinz, IND 14. Kyle Jasenski, MD 197 lbs. (6 qualifiers) 1. Kollin Moore, OSU 2. Eric Schultz, NEB 3. Jacob Warner, IOWA 4. Christian Brunner, PUR 5. Lucas Davison, NU 6. Shakur Rasheed, PSU 7. Jordan Pagano, RU 8. Jackson Striggow, MICH 9. Jaron Smith, MD 10. Hunter Ritter, MINN 11. Matt Wroblewski, ILL 12. Nick May, MSU 13. Taylor Watkins, WIS 14. Nick Willham, IND 285 lbs. (7 qualifiers) 1. Mason Parris, MICH 2. Gable Steveson, MINN 3. Tony Cassioppi, IOWA 4. Trent Hilger, WIS 5. David Jensen, NEB 6. Gary Traub, OSU 7. Seth Nevillis, PSU 8. Thomas Penola, PUR 9. Luke Luffman, ILL 10. Alex Esposito, RU 11. Christian Rebottaro, MSU 12. Jake Kleimola, IND 13. Jack Heyob, NU 14. Parker Robinson, MD Edited March 2, 2020 by fightingsioux punc 2 Marcus Cisero and Show_Me reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fightingsioux 51 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 What do people see as the biggest potential upset (a lower seed winning it all)? Not Steveson over Parris, I mean a true upset. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,699 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 Did Rutgers tank this year or is it my perception? Maybe AA and NS distorted their team for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,699 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, fightingsioux said: What do people see as the biggest potential upset (a lower seed winning it all)? Not Steveson over Parris, I mean a true upset. SeaBass and Venz look like the lowest seed with a chance at winning 1 fightingsioux reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,486 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, Plasmodium said: Did Rutgers tank this year or is it my perception? Maybe AA and NS distorted their team for me. They are hosting, too busy to wrestle. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragu 56 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, fightingsioux said: What do people see as the biggest potential upset (a lower seed winning it all)? Not Steveson over Parris, I mean a true upset. Chad Red in the postseason is a dangerous man 1 fightingsioux reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,231 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, JerryCallo said: WOW - Parris got the #1 seed over Gable - surprising but it may not matter much - I really do not see either of them losing before the Finals. What sorts of things could cause these Pre-seeds to change before the Tourney starts? Parris got it because he has a better strength of schedule, showed up to the dual vs Minnesota and wrestled and won a major tournament. Gable is the favorite but I agree with the seeding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 440 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Ragu said: Chad Red in the postseason is a dangerous man Not THAT dangerous. He finished 7th and 8th the last two years at NCAAs which is about where you would expect given his talent level and if you ignored his sub-par regular seasons. Then at Big 10's last year he got the most favorable possible draw by being on the same side of the bracket as Mike Carr (and opposite McKenna and Lee). Carr was the poster child for questionable seeding when he was given the #1 after not having wrestled McKenna or Lee. He then proceeded to drop three matches at Big 10s and two more at NCAAs and not AA. I do feel bad for Red this year though. They gave him the 4 seed and Murin the 3. Red beat Murin head to head. And while Murin has fewer loses in the conference he did not take the mat against Pletcher or Lee this year. I think you can make the case that Red should have been the 3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 204 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, fightingsioux said: What do people see as the biggest potential upset (a lower seed winning it all)? Not Steveson over Parris, I mean a true upset. I don't see him winning, but I won't be at all surprised if Decatur substantially out-places his seed. 1 fightingsioux reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Show_Me 309 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Not THAT dangerous. He finished 7th and 8th the last two years at NCAAs which is about where you would expect I think you are selling him short on his post-season magic. In 2018, he was NOT Seeded, yet finished 7th. In 2019, he was a #16 Seed, yet finished 8th. He significantly over performed both years. I would expect him to be Seeded higher this year unless he lays an egg at Big 10. 1 Ragu reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 204 Report post Posted March 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Not THAT dangerous. He finished 7th and 8th the last two years at NCAAs which is about where you would expect given his talent level and if you ignored his sub-par regular seasons. Then at Big 10's last year he got the most favorable possible draw by being on the same side of the bracket as Mike Carr (and opposite McKenna and Lee). Carr was the poster child for questionable seeding when he was given the #1 after not having wrestled McKenna or Lee. He then proceeded to drop three matches at Big 10s and two more at NCAAs and not AA. I do feel bad for Red this year though. They gave him the 4 seed and Murin the 3. Red beat Murin head to head. And while Murin has fewer loses in the conference he did not take the mat against Pletcher or Lee this year. I think you can make the case that Red should have been the 3. Given their head to head, I'm surprised he's not the three. Then again, although he pinned McKee recently, I think I'd rather wrestle Moran in the quarters. He hasn't looked right since at least the PSU dual, and unless something changes, I don't think he'll have anything for Red. McKee's been pinned a few times recently, but if anything, I suspect he'll be more dangerous in the postseason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites