Arnold Classic Banning, 'most' spectators from event

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I'm pretty upset about the Arnold Classic news. Where can I go to show off my ridiculous physique now?

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20 hours ago, DocBZ said:

That 1.4% is not correct as the VAST majority of cases are currently unresolved. The current death rate is 6% based on know outcomes of death or recovery although this is likely to fall. He's also wrong about the 0.6% Flu death rate which is much closer to 0.1% according to the CDC.

BTW that 1.4% comes from a study done by Chinese doctors and officials at Chinese hospitals and only based on 1000 cases.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032

I have not read or heard anything remotely close to 6%.  Where are you getting this %?

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18 minutes ago, RED said:

I have not read or heard anything remotely close to 6%.  Where are you getting this %?

It isn’t a useful metric. They are comparing recoveries to deaths, but without knowing the total number of infected and recovered it is useless. 

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8 hours ago, BigTimeFan said:

 

 But the issue is that people can be asymptotic for a week and spread it merely by touching a doorknob which you subsequently touch because the virus can live on hard, non porous surfaces for up to a week. This is the worry. 

This is what I’m confused about.  I get that it “can” be spread even if someone doesn’t have symptoms, but doesn’t that person probably still need to cough or something for the “droplets” or whatever to come out?  I read about one of the cases of asymptomatic spread and it was to family members - that seems possible but from what I’ve read it seems unlikely that you’ll get it from a random person on the street unless they have symptoms.

I also get that it “can” live on surfaces, but the CDC website states it has “poor survivability on surfaces” - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html

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1 hour ago, RED said:

I have not read or heard anything remotely close to 6%.  Where are you getting this %?

You can't include all those people whose true outcome is unknown which is what the 1-2% figure does. Deaths/Deaths+Recovery = 6% currently. Will this number change? Of course and it has been trending downward as more people recover. But it's likely to be higher than the 1-2% figure when all is said and done. Look at China  who already have 50K recoveries and their death rate is still hovering around 6% currently.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_coronavirus_outbreak

Edited March 5, 2020 by DocBZ

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10 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Better source you say?

Your guys in the White House, Jim Pence and that other orange haired clown, say 2%.

(Not a huge surprise they disagree with the World Health Organization.)

Maybe you should hide in your house with your thumb in your mouth.

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1 hour ago, Housebuye said:

It isn’t a useful metric. They are comparing recoveries to deaths, but without knowing the total number of infected and recovered it is useless. 

Actually it is useful because you can use it to compare it to other virus's and their virulence. Total number of infected is impossible to tell for any virus. That's why you get such wide ranging statistics for influenza. It's why the CDC says "that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010" for the common flu? Why? Because they don't know the true number of infected and never will.

Edited March 5, 2020 by DocBZ

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On 3/4/2020 at 12:40 PM, TheOhioState said:

Nope.  You are wrong,.  It's 3.4% as of today, as reported by the World Health Organization. 
Maybe you have a better source.  
https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-mission-briefing-on-covid-19---4-march-2020

You asked about a better source, and I referenced the White House and their official statements reporting it as 2%. So, you disagree with the WH?

(IMO, much of what comes from the WH are lies. If I remember correctly from your other posts, you believe otherwise.)

7 hours ago, TheOhioState said:

Maybe you should hide in your house with your thumb in your mouth.

This ^^ wasn't very nice. (And, doesn't make any sense.)

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7 hours ago, DocBZ said:

You can't include all those people whose true outcome is unknown which is what the 1-2% figure does. Deaths/Deaths+Recovery = 6% currently. Will this number change? Of course and it has been trending downward as more people recover. But it's likely to be higher than the 1-2% figure when all is said and done. Look at China  who already have 50K recoveries and their death rate is still hovering around 6% currently.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_coronavirus_outbreak

If that's the case I feel like you should remove deaths that have occurred in the last 2 weeks or something, since you're not allowing time for the other cases to recover