gallison 38 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 From ESPN's web site... A former University of Michigan wrestler filed a lawsuit in federal court Wednesday alleging the school ignored warnings that former team doctor Robert Anderson was sexually abusing his patients. The anonymous plaintiff wrestled at Michigan from 1984 to 1989. According to the lawsuit, he first was violated by Anderson as a 17-year-old freshman, and Anderson continued to molest and grope him on a regular basis during the remainder of his time as a student-athlete. "One illustrative incident is when plaintiff scratched his arm while wrestling on the mat during a summer training session, and he was told by leadership to see Anderson about the bleeding," the lawsuit states. Much more in the article.... EDITOR'S PICKS Ex-UM wrestler says warnings about doc ignored Ex-football players join U-M sexual abuse case "During his appointment for his arm, Anderson told plaintiff to drop his pants, and Anderson sexually assaulted, abused and molested" him, according to the lawsuit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) This appears to be prevalent in the 80's and 90's, and I cant help to stop and wonder why? Why was this stuff ever able to happen at Ohio St. or Michigan or even more recently Michigan St? Edited March 5, 2020 by russelscout Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichB 189 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 One of my teammate''s girlfriend was the daughter of the team doctor. When we had our physicals he always had a remark about being felt up by his girlfriends father. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,572 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, RichB said: One of my teammate''s girlfriend was the daughter of the team doctor. When we had our physicals he always had a remark about being felt up by his girlfriends father. I'm not gonna lie. That is awkward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sublime607 112 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 10 hours ago, russelscout said: This appears to be prevalent in the 80's and 90's, and I cant help to stop and wonder why? Why was this stuff ever able to happen at Ohio St. or Michigan or even more recently Michigan St? Has a Catholic church type feel to it doesn't it. But I always question why the accusers always seem to wait until statue of limitation has expired. 1 gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 317 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 11 hours ago, russelscout said: This appears to be prevalent in the 80's and 90's, and I cant help to stop and wonder why? Why was this stuff ever able to happen at Ohio St. or Michigan or even more recently Michigan St? 58 minutes ago, Sublime607 said: Has a Catholic church type feel to it doesn't it. But I always question why the accusers always seem to wait until statue of limitation has expired. Or wait until the accused has passed away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 Why NO stories of a "victim" slamming the groper/sodomizer against the wall, breaking an arm, giving a major concussion or throwing them through a window? 4 gallison, kionga, AKHUNTER and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 667 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, WillieBoy said: Why NO stories of a "victim" slamming the groper/sodomizer against the wall, breaking an arm, giving a major concussion or throwing them through a window? Not everyone's as bad-ass as you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, WillieBoy said: Why NO stories of a "victim" slamming the groper/sodomizer against the wall, breaking an arm, giving a major concussion or throwing them through a window? My guess? Because when messed up stuff like this happens, people respond differently than they tell themselves they would in their mind. 1 Schuteandscore reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StallWarning 156 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, russelscout said: My guess? Because when messed up stuff like this happens, people respond differently than they tell themselves they would in their mind. Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. - Mike Tyson. 1 russelscout reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 All these athletes - and not ONE takes any action? You don't have to be a bad ass to go after a sexual abuser - even if it is your Doctor. Something seriously mentally off about these people. 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 201 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, WillieBoy said: All these athletes - and not ONE takes any action? You don't have to be a bad ass to go after a sexual abuser - even if it is your Doctor. Something seriously mentally off about these people. There's something mentally off about the abused students? SMFH 1 ConnorsDad reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, whaletail said: There's something mentally off about the abused students? SMFH Those who refuse to do anything to stop it? Maybe shock or surprise or confusion at first - but if they go back after it happens for a repeat - yes. If they don't take action and get authorities involved, definitely yes. All kinds of complaints - molesting going on for many visits, many victims involved and possibly over years - and none of them took steps to stop it? What is smfh, your last name? 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsmalls131313 37 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 20 hours ago, russelscout said: This appears to be prevalent in the 80's and 90's, and I cant help to stop and wonder why? Why was this stuff ever able to happen at Ohio St. or Michigan or even more recently Michigan St? Who knows if it has happened at all those places? Unsubstantiated claims doesn't make it true. 1 fadzaev2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gallison 38 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 4 hours ago, WillieBoy said: All these athletes - and not ONE takes any action? You don't have to be a bad ass to go after a sexual abuser - even if it is your Doctor. Something seriously mentally off about these people. The difference between this and a Catholic church issue is the age/maturity of the person being abused. Even if the wrestler doesn't brake an arm, why wouldn't they know it's wrong and stop it by any means necessary? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConnorsDad 554 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 Being a retired cop, I have had some first-hand knowledge of abuse and it's far reaching consequences. We, the people looking in from the outside, just don't realize how people are going to react and also the shame involved with those who are abused. People who are abused don't want it to get out and a lot of them, unbeknownst to friends and family, hear them talking about other cases and realize they never want their family and loved ones to find out. If and when they do decide to come forward, and I'm talking about the ones who really have been abused and need help, it's almost always a shock to everybody because for the most part people don't believe it and don't want to. You tell somebody that a doctor is sexually abusing kids/teens and people are more likely to not believe it than do. You couple that with the fact that many abusers seem to have a freaking sixth sense to know who to target, who has a lot of shame, who will do anything to keep it quiet, etc., it's not surprising that a very small number of actual cases ever come to light. Look at how long it took the Penn State - Sandusky case to come out, Michigan St. and others. Then, even if it is brought to light, lots of victims see what happens to the abuser and how their own life is turned inside out and it makes them less likely to want to come forward. You have a vicious cycle that just keeps going on and on and these sick ****ing human beings are still out there and always will be. I'm not saying there aren't some liars and exaggerators just looking for a payday but let's not jump to conclusions just because they have waited a while. There can be any number of reasons and unless you have been in their shoes I submit that you cannot know what's going on and their minds. 2 Jim L and russelscout reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, ConnorsDad said: Being a retired cop, I have had some first-hand knowledge of abuse and it's far reaching consequences. We, the people looking in from the outside, just don't realize how people are going to react and also the shame involved with those who are abused. People who are abused don't want it to get out and a lot of them, unbeknownst to friends and family, hear them talking about other cases and realize they never want their family and loved ones to find out. If and when they do decide to come forward, and I'm talking about the ones who really have been abused and need help, it's almost always a shock to everybody because for the most part people don't believe it and don't want to. You tell somebody that a doctor is sexually abusing kids/teens and people are more likely to not believe it than do. You couple that with the fact that many abusers seem to have a freaking sixth sense to know who to target, who has a lot of shame, who will do anything to keep it quiet, etc., it's not surprising that a very small number of actual cases ever come to light. Look at how long it took the Penn State - Sandusky case to come out, Michigan St. and others. Then, even if it is brought to light, lots of victims see what happens to the abuser and how their own life is turned inside out and it makes them less likely to want to come forward. You have a vicious cycle that just keeps going on and on and these sick ****ing human beings are still out there and always will be. I'm not saying there aren't some liars and exaggerators just looking for a payday but let's not jump to conclusions just because they have waited a while. There can be any number of reasons and unless you have been in their shoes I submit that you cannot know what's going on and their minds. This. Those who do abuse kids/teens/whoever feel emboldened to do these sort of things for a reason. Most have gotten away with it before and know they can again despite all the people on the outside who say they would never allow it. Why is that? Because most of us have no clue what it is like to be put in that situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites