B1G Semifinal thoughts

[VakAttack 3,966]

125:  Lee appeared to feel he had something to prove, maybe because medley held him to his only non-bonus win of the season?  I did not see much of the other match, though it looked like Schroder controlled.  Lee by whatever he chooses.

133:  RBY stalled.  He also got the only TD.  Desanto needs a plan when he gets in, he froze up any time RBY went to grab the knee.  Rivera-Gross was AWESOME.  I think they're the two best guys at the weight.  If Desanto can't be there, that would be a great NCAA final.  Rivera DEC RBY.

141:  Surprisingly lackluster by both guys, though both were facing game opponents.  I picked Pletcher to reverse the result from last time, with Lee winning the NCAA title in two weeks, so I'll stick with that.  Pletcher DEC Lee.

149:  Sasso just doing Sasso things out there.  Lugo looked great and controlled.  This match will again come down to whether Lugo can chase down a TD, because Sasso has an advantage on the mat.  Can Sasso dodge all those bullets again?  I say no.  Lugo DEC  Sasso.

157:  A little surprised that Deakin "only" won by 6.  Coleman, meanwhile, had a nice win over Robb, though it was decided by one exchange, basically.  Deakin demolished Coleman earlier this year.  I think only Deakin DEC Coleman here.

165:  Joseph has just completely figured White out.  Felt weird to see White get hit for stalling after RBY never got hit once, but it had no practical effect, Joseph just controlled the match.  Marinelli obviously was fortunate to not have to deal with Evan Wick, who is tough even though Marinelli has beaten him something like 456 times in a row.  He house Oster, as he should have.  Marinelli gets back to his winning ways over Joseph.  Marinelli DEC Joseph.

174:  Kemerer wrestled two different matches.  He demolished Skatzka for the first half, then got stuck underneath for the remaining half.  It was a bizarre sequence where the ref called Skatzka for stalling, when it should have been Kemerer.  Nice heart by Kem to get the late reversal (and back points) to retake the major.  Hall looked good, not great in his match, though he had a really impressive TD off a situation that almost always ends up in a stalemate.  Give me Kemerer again tomorrow, I honestly just think he's better.  Maybe Hall is a bit burned out.  Kemerer DEC Hall.

184:  Brooks-Venz was fun.  Have we ever gotten an explanation why Venz didn't get backpoints after he put Brooks on his back?  Regardless, that cradle Brooks locked up was NASTY, and then his technique was fantastic when Venz broke the grip, ad Brooks settled in for the fall.  Lot of guys give up the position there.  Caffey is a magician out there, defending every shot Assad threw at him.  Assad tried a couple of different finishes than what he did at the dual, and Caffey defended them perfectly.  Brooks appears to have really stepped up his game the second half.  Brooks DEC Caffey.

197:  Moore looked dominant.  Szhultz did not.  Hearing Penn State fans scream for a second stalling call on Schultz was a bit much considering the RBY of it all, but also....Schultz was stalling.  Moore DEC Schultz.

HWT:  Parris looked good, but not great.  Impressively defended Hilger's attacks and found ways to score.  Cass just has nothing for Gable, and it appears he knows it.  He swipes at legs because he knows he'll get countered. So Gable has him beat physically and mentally.  Gable may be an *******, but he's a damned good *******.  I've changed my mind on this one.  Gable DEC Parris.

[TBar1977 4,481]

You have PSU going 1 for 5 in the Finals of a Tournament. That would be a first time that has happened in the Cael Sanderson Era.

Edited March 8, 2020 by TBar1977

[VakAttack 3,966]

1 minute ago, TBar1977 said:

You have PSU going 1 for 5 in the Finals of a Tournament. That would be a first time that has happened in the Cael Sanderson Era.

Yup.  Real glad I'm not wagering money on it.  They could also win all 5, so who the eff knows.

[GoNotQuietly 1,168]

I’ll take Lee and Joseph to win, but great summary.


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[Mphillips 1,655]

Thanks. Nice rundown.  The number of times mentioning RBY stalling is appreciated.  Was beginning to think no one noticed, with the exception of TBar of course...

[Cementmixer103 71]

Good stuff Vak

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[Mphillips 1,655]

Just now, VakAttack said:

Yup.  Real glad I'm not wagering money on it.  They could also win all 5, so who the eff knows.

True, true...

[TBar1977 4,481]

Just now, VakAttack said:

Yup.  Real glad I'm not wagering money on it.  They could also win all 5, so who the eff knows.

True, but I like the over if the line is a mere 1. 

[TBar1977 4,481]

Just now, Mphillips said:

Thanks. Nice rundown.  The number of times mentioning RBY stalling is appreciated.  Was beginning to think no one noticed, with the exception of TBar of course...

Its in every thread tonite, so I think people have noticed. Plus Pyles will make sure everyone hears about it on Tuesday. He's good like that. 

[VakAttack 3,966]

1 minute ago, Mphillips said:

Thanks. Nice rundown.  The number of times mentioning RBY stalling is appreciated.  Was beginning to think no one noticed, with the exception of TBar of course...

It seemed like it had flown under the radar.

[Mokoma 324]

Hall will not lose tomorrow.

[VakAttack 3,966]

Just realized I picked Iowa to win every single final they are in.  So now, of course, you can plan on only Spencer Lee winning.

[TBar1977 4,481]

4 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Just realized I picked Iowa to win every single final they are in.  So now, of course, you can plan on only Spencer Lee winning.

No worries, we can remind you when it doesn't happen. ha!

I trust you can discern sarcasm. 

[MedicineMan 483]

Wait a minute, let me get this straight, Vak, are you alluding and trying to say in some roundabout way that RBY was stalling???  Because if so, that is a gross overstatement of what really was just damn good defensive wrestling. Every time the ref was ready to pull the trigger, RBY deflected the call with an incremental advancement. He walked the stalling line, but never crossed it. 

[1032004 1,407]

I’d like to give a shoutout to Mitch McKee.

Clearly hurt against Pletcher, I was fully expecting him to injury default as I think he was down by 6 or so at the time.  Finished the match despite a noticeable limp.

Lee and Pletcher are on another level, but if he’s healthy I wouldn’t be shocked to see him make the NCAA finals in his senior year in his home stadium.

[PSUNatChamps 17]

RBY was not stalling. Why all of  a sudden, is DeSanto not being aggressive? You do what you do got to win. If needed, RBY could have been a lot MORE aggressive. You need to feel your opponent out, and based off the last time they wrestled, RBY (who dominated) needed to see how DeSanto responded tonight. DeSanto wrestled completely different against RBY last year. He learned something. and now RBY is adjusting too. Not hard to figure out. A chess match ....

[1032004 1,407]

1 hour ago, TBar1977 said:

You have PSU going 1 for 5 in the Finals of a Tournament. That would be a first time that has happened in the Cael Sanderson Era.

That would be kinda crazy if they only win 1 and the 1 is Brooks

[VakAttack 3,966]

3 minutes ago, PSUNatChamps said:

RBY was not stalling. Why all of  a sudden, is DeSanto not being aggressive? You do what you do got to win. If needed, RBY could have been a lot MORE aggressive. You need to feel your opponent out, and based off the last time they wrestled, RBY (who dominated) needed to see how DeSanto responded tonight. DeSanto wrestled completely different against RBY last year. He learned something. and now RBY is adjusting too. Not hard to figure out. A chess match ....

Not being aggressive?  Desanto came forward the whole match and attacked throughout.

Unrelated to your post, but I didn't even bother to mention RBY's double leg WAY out of bounds, because I'm on the record as being all for those kinds of shenanigans, but if that was Desanto, there'd already be a 6 page thread about it.

[77again 120]

I can see Penn State winning all 5 if RBY wins, which will be tough. 

I feel good about Lee, Joseph, Brooks, and yes, Mark Hall getting payback.

[Force118 150]

52 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Not being aggressive?  Desanto came forward the whole match and attacked throughout.

Unrelated to your post, but I didn't even bother to mention RBY's double leg WAY out of bounds, because I'm on the record as being all for those kinds of shenanigans, but if that was Desanto, there'd already be a 6 page thread about it.

Total shots

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RBY-6

not such a difference I would say one guy was stalling and the other was the main aggressor.

 

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[MedicineMan 483]

12 minutes ago, Force118 said:

Total shots

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RBY-6

not such a difference I would say one guy was stalling and the other was the main aggressor.

 

See, Vak?

[BigTenFanboy 1,790]

4 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Yup.  Real glad I'm not wagering money on it.  They could also win all 5, so who the eff knows.

Well if you did wager money on it we all know you would pay up if you lost unlike some pastry..

[BigTenFanboy 1,790]

3 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Not being aggressive?  Desanto came forward the whole match and attacked throughout.

Unrelated to your post, but I didn't even bother to mention RBY's double leg WAY out of bounds, because I'm on the record as being all for those kinds of shenanigans, but if that was Desanto, there'd already be a 6 page thread about it.

Youre right because Desanto has a reputation and the perception (where true or false) is he has malicious intent.

[ConnorsDad 596]

6 hours ago, VakAttack said:

125:  Lee appeared to feel he had something to prove, maybe because medley held him to his only non-bonus win of the season?  I did not see much of the other match, though it looked like Schroder controlled.  Lee by whatever he chooses.

133:  RBY stalled.  He also got the only TD.  Desanto needs a plan when he gets in, he froze up any time RBY went to grab the knee.  Rivera-Gross was AWESOME.  I think they're the two best guys at the weight.  If Desanto can't be there, that would be a great NCAA final.  Rivera DEC RBY.

141:  Surprisingly lackluster by both guys, though both were facing game opponents.  I picked Pletcher to reverse the result from last time, with Lee winning the NCAA title in two weeks, so I'll stick with that.  Pletcher DEC Lee.

149:  Sasso just doing Sasso things out there.  Lugo looked great and controlled.  This match will again come down to whether Lugo can chase down a TD, because Sasso has an advantage on the mat.  Can Sasso dodge all those bullets again?  I say no.  Lugo DEC  Sasso.

157:  A little surprised that Deakin "only" won by 6.  Coleman, meanwhile, had a nice win over Robb, though it was decided by one exchange, basically.  Deakin demolished Coleman earlier this year.  I think only Deakin DEC Coleman here.

165:  Joseph has just completely figured White out.  Felt weird to see White get hit for stalling after RBY never got hit once, but it had no practical effect, Joseph just controlled the match.  Marinelli obviously was fortunate to not have to deal with Evan Wick, who is tough even though Marinelli has beaten him something like 456 times in a row.  He house Oster, as he should have.  Marinelli gets back to his winning ways over Joseph.  Marinelli DEC Joseph.

174:  Kemerer wrestled two different matches.  He demolished Skatzka for the first half, then got stuck underneath for the remaining half.  It was a bizarre sequence where the ref called Skatzka for stalling, when it should have been Kemerer.  Nice heart by Kem to get the late reversal (and back points) to retake the major.  Hall looked good, not great in his match, though he had a really impressive TD off a situation that almost always ends up in a stalemate.  Give me Kemerer again tomorrow, I honestly just think he's better.  Maybe Hall is a bit burned out.  Kemerer DEC Hall.

184:  Brooks-Venz was fun.  Have we ever gotten an explanation why Venz didn't get backpoints after he put Brooks on his back?  Regardless, that cradle Brooks locked up was NASTY, and then his technique was fantastic when Venz broke the grip, ad Brooks settled in for the fall.  Lot of guys give up the position there.  Caffey is a magician out there, defending every shot Assad threw at him.  Assad tried a couple of different finishes than what he did at the dual, and Caffey defended them perfectly.  Brooks appears to have really stepped up his game the second half.  Brooks DEC Caffey.

197:  Moore looked dominant.  Szhultz did not.  Hearing Penn State fans scream for a second stalling call on Schultz was a bit much considering the RBY of it all, but also....Schultz was stalling.  Moore DEC Schultz.

HWT:  Parris looked good, but not great.  Impressively defended Hilger's attacks and found ways to score.  Cass just has nothing for Gable, and it appears he knows it.  He swipes at legs because he knows he'll get countered. So Gable has him beat physically and mentally.  Gable may be an *******, but he's a damned good *******.  I've changed my mind on this one.  Gable DEC Parris.

I can't remember where I heard it but now looking it appears at least in my mind to be right. Has anybody else noticed that Nick Lee seems to do better in dual matches than in a tournament relatively speaking? Before anybody has a kitten or ****s their pants I'm talking about relative to what he should do. I didn't think he looked great today after crushing Pletcher a week or so ago. Just wondering

[ConnorsDad 596]

 

 

5 hours ago, MedicineMan said:

Wait a minute, let me get this straight, Vak, are you alluding and trying to say in some roundabout way that RBY was stalling???  Because if so, that is a gross overstatement of what really was just damn good defensive wrestling. Every time the ref was ready to pull the trigger, RBY deflected the call with an incremental advancement. He walked the stalling line, but never crossed it. 

Not only did he cross it but he stomped on it, set up a picnic around it and gave us a textbook look at how to stall and not get caught.

Edited March 8, 2020 by ConnorsDad