TBar1977 3,671 Report post Posted March 11 NCAA Stat Leaders - Most Dominant RANK NAME SCHOOL WEIGHT AVG. TEAM POINTS 1 Mark Hall Penn St. 174 4.70 2 Pat Glory Princeton 125 4.54 3 Spencer Lee Iowa 125 4.50 4 Nick Lee Penn St. 141 4.29 5 Kollin Moore Ohio St. 197 4.19 6 Shane Griffith Stanford 165 4.16 7 Mason Parris Michigan 285 4.14 7 Hayden Hidlay NC State 157 4.11 9 Ryan Deakin Northwestern 157 4.10 10 Real Woods Stanford 141 4.05 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erminio8 42 Report post Posted March 12 (edited) That is not accurate. Spencer Lee has a dominance score of 5...he had 18 matches and totaled 90 points. He would have a 4.50 if you counted Medical Forfeits in Midlands as 2 losses, which of course you do not. Edited March 12 by Erminio8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,671 Report post Posted March 12 6 hours ago, Erminio8 said: That is not accurate. Spencer Lee has a dominance score of 5...he had 18 matches and totaled 90 points. He would have a 4.50 if you counted Medical Forfeits in Midlands as 2 losses, which of course you do not. If those numbers are not accurate you may wish to inform ncaa.com since the information came from them. https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2020-03-09/ncaa-standings-division-i-most-dominant-wrestler-most-falls-and Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,132 Report post Posted March 12 Need a new formula. Gable Steveson isn't even on the list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,132 Report post Posted March 12 Need a new formula. Gable Steveson isn't even on the list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,123 Report post Posted March 12 2 hours ago, headshuck said: Need a new formula. Gable Steveson isn't even on the list. Did you check for Stevenson? ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 114 Report post Posted March 12 6 hours ago, TBar1977 said: If those numbers are not accurate you may wish to inform ncaa.com since the information came from them. https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2020-03-09/ncaa-standings-division-i-most-dominant-wrestler-most-falls-and Yes, it’s inaccurate and flawed statistics released by NCAA.com. For some strange reason, they consider Lee’s two medical forfeits at Midlands as matches and give him a total of 90 points in 20 matches. If they aren’t official matches on his record then they shouldn’t count towards any sort of statistic. Spencer Lee scored 228 points in 63 minutes of wrestling this year, nobody was more dominant. 2 1 jon, DocBZ and Erminio8 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Poopy butthole 29 Report post Posted March 12 8 hours ago, TBar1977 said: If those numbers are not accurate you may wish to inform ncaa.com since the information came from them. https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2020-03-09/ncaa-standings-division-i-most-dominant-wrestler-most-falls-and Why should he be the one to inform NCAA.com? You're the one who posted this trash without, a) thinking critically about the data (Lee's rating should have been a red flag, seeing as he was at a 5.0 dominance score leading into conference weekend), and b) didn't bother to leave a citation or any indication of where this data was pulled from. 1 Erminio8 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeanGuy 102 Report post Posted March 12 4 hours ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said: Why should he be the one to inform NCAA.com? You're the one who posted this trash without, a) thinking critically about the data (Lee's rating should have been a red flag, seeing as he was at a 5.0 dominance score leading into conference weekend), and b) didn't bother to leave a citation or any indication of where this data was pulled from. It is a stat posted by the NCAA. it is their star so it is correct. You may not agree with it but it isn't wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKHUNTER 280 Report post Posted March 12 it is wrong........MMF matches never took place and are not counted on any individuals record 1 Erminio8 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeanGuy 102 Report post Posted March 13 Aparantly the NCAA users of to do their calculation. It is like arguing with computer rankings. You may not agree but the algorithm is the algorithm. Stats are facts they are one way to look at them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Poopy butthole 29 Report post Posted March 13 39 minutes ago, JeanGuy said: Aparantly the NCAA users of to do their calculation. It is like arguing with computer rankings. You may not agree but the algorithm is the algorithm. Stats are facts they are one way to look at them. Brotha this isn't that hard. The dominance score isn't an algorithm. Calculating it is a simple exercise in arithmetic, something you or I could do in a matter of minutes. In fact, I did just that and realized, like another poster in this thread, that the NCAA had mistakenly factored in Lee's forfeits at midlands while not doing the same for other wrestlers. 1 Erminio8 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 58 Report post Posted March 13 On 3/11/2020 at 4:44 PM, TBar1977 said: NCAA Stat Leaders - Most Dominant RANK NAME SCHOOL WEIGHT AVG. TEAM POINTS 1 Mark Hall Penn St. 174 4.70 2 Pat Glory Princeton 125 4.54 3 Spencer Lee Iowa 125 4.50 4 Nick Lee Penn St. 141 4.29 5 Kollin Moore Ohio St. 197 4.19 6 Shane Griffith Stanford 165 4.16 7 Mason Parris Michigan 285 4.14 7 Hayden Hidlay NC State 157 4.11 9 Ryan Deakin Northwestern 157 4.10 10 Real Woods Stanford 141 4.05 Fail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedicineMan 416 Report post Posted March 13 14 hours ago, headshuck said: Need a new formula. Gable Steveson isn't even on the list. Well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 114 Report post Posted March 13 2 hours ago, JeanGuy said: Aparantly the NCAA users of to do their calculation. It is like arguing with computer rankings. You may not agree but the algorithm is the algorithm. Stats are facts they are one way to look at them. It’s strange that the NCAA would use it as their stat. In fact, they don’t appear to use the two medical forfeits in their “stats” until the final ranking. On 2/26/20, the rankings before the conference tournaments, Lee wasn’t even ranked because he didn’t meet the criteria of 16 matches (he was 15-0.) Two weeks later, they credit him with 5 additional matches when he only wrestled 3 matches at big tens. 90/20=4.5 90/18=5. 1 1 jon and Erminio8 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcat11 392 Report post Posted March 13 8 hours ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said: Why should he be the one to inform NCAA.com? You're the one who posted this trash without, a) thinking critically about the data (Lee's rating should have been a red flag, seeing as he was at a 5.0 dominance score leading into conference weekend), and b) didn't bother to leave a citation or any indication of where this data was pulled from. I’m ashamed to say it, but it gets me good every time you make a serious post. 1 wrestlingphish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 687 Report post Posted March 14 So there’s actually a punishment for MFF’ing? I don’t see the issue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 114 Report post Posted March 25 On 3/12/2020 at 6:41 PM, JeanGuy said: It is a stat posted by the NCAA. it is their star so it is correct. You may not agree with it but it isn't wrong. Spencer Lee was named most dominant with a 5.0 today so I guess the NCAA decided their “stats” cited in this thread were indeed inaccurate. 1 mistydawn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 114 Report post Posted March 25 (edited) nm Edited March 25 by Mpchillin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shieldofpistis 109 Report post Posted March 25 Why is Moore behind guys who aren't undefeated? Moore more likely to win than Hall and Nick Lee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 262 Report post Posted March 25 1 hour ago, shieldofpistis said: Why is Moore behind guys who aren't undefeated? Moore more likely to win than Hall and Nick Lee. Not for most dominant. It’s just how many team points you score per match. Moore didn’t get a lot of bonus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 531 Report post Posted March 25 The OP's numbers are old. Spencer Lee is now the most dominant. 1 mistydawn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistydawn 38 Report post Posted March 25 Scores were updated and Lee was first and Hall 2nd. Both had incredible scores. Averaging 5.0 is insane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 262 Report post Posted March 25 1 hour ago, mistydawn said: Scores were updated and Lee was first and Hall 2nd. Both had incredible scores. Averaging 5.0 is insane. It’s too bad Hall didn’t decide to skip out on 3 of his 4 toughest matches. He would have won this award (and the Hodge apparently) going away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shieldofpistis 109 Report post Posted March 25 5 hours ago, Mokoma said: It’s too bad Hall didn’t decide to skip out on 3 of his 4 toughest matches. He would have won this award (and the Hodge apparently) going away! Skipping out on matches needs to be considered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
