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NCAA Stat Leaders - Most Dominant

RANK NAME SCHOOL WEIGHT AVG. TEAM POINTS
1 Mark Hall Penn St. 174 4.70
2 Pat Glory Princeton 125 4.54
3 Spencer Lee Iowa 125 4.50
4 Nick Lee Penn St. 141 4.29
5 Kollin Moore Ohio St. 197 4.19
6 Shane Griffith Stanford 165 4.16
7 Mason Parris Michigan 285 4.14
7 Hayden Hidlay NC State 157 4.11
9 Ryan Deakin Northwestern 157 4.10
10 Real Woods Stanford 141 4.05

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That is not accurate. Spencer Lee has a dominance score of 5...he had 18 matches and totaled 90 points. He would have a 4.50 if you counted Medical Forfeits in Midlands as 2 losses, which of course you do not.

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6 hours ago, Erminio8 said:

That is not accurate. Spencer Lee has a dominance score of 5...he had 18 matches and totaled 90 points. He would have a 4.50 if you counted Medical Forfeits in Midlands as 2 losses, which of course you do not.

If those numbers are not accurate you may wish to inform ncaa.com since the information came from them. 

https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2020-03-09/ncaa-standings-division-i-most-dominant-wrestler-most-falls-and

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6 hours ago, TBar1977 said:

If those numbers are not accurate you may wish to inform ncaa.com since the information came from them. 

https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2020-03-09/ncaa-standings-division-i-most-dominant-wrestler-most-falls-and

Yes, it’s inaccurate and flawed statistics  released by NCAA.com. For some strange reason, they consider Lee’s two medical forfeits at Midlands as matches and give him a total of 90 points in 20 matches. If they aren’t official matches on his record then they shouldn’t count towards any sort of statistic. Spencer Lee scored 228 points in 63 minutes of wrestling this year, nobody was more dominant.

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8 hours ago, TBar1977 said:

If those numbers are not accurate you may wish to inform ncaa.com since the information came from them. 

https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2020-03-09/ncaa-standings-division-i-most-dominant-wrestler-most-falls-and

Why should he be the one to inform NCAA.com? 

You're the one who posted this trash without, a) thinking critically about the data (Lee's rating should have been a red flag, seeing as he was at a 5.0 dominance score leading into conference weekend), and b) didn't bother to leave a citation or any indication of where this data was pulled from.

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4 hours ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said:

Why should he be the one to inform NCAA.com? 

You're the one who posted this trash without, a) thinking critically about the data (Lee's rating should have been a red flag, seeing as he was at a 5.0 dominance score leading into conference weekend), and b) didn't bother to leave a citation or any indication of where this data was pulled from.

It is a stat posted by the NCAA. it is their star so it is correct. You may not agree with it but it isn't wrong. 

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Aparantly the NCAA users of to do their calculation. 

It is like arguing with computer rankings. You may not agree but the algorithm is the algorithm. 

Stats are facts they are one way to look at them. 

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39 minutes ago, JeanGuy said:

Aparantly the NCAA users of to do their calculation. 

It is like arguing with computer rankings. You may not agree but the algorithm is the algorithm. 

Stats are facts they are one way to look at them. 

Brotha this isn't that hard. The dominance score isn't an algorithm. Calculating it is a simple exercise in arithmetic, something you or I could do in a matter of minutes. In fact, I did just that and realized, like another poster in this thread, that the NCAA had mistakenly factored in Lee's forfeits at midlands while not doing the same for other wrestlers.

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On 3/11/2020 at 4:44 PM, TBar1977 said:

NCAA Stat Leaders - Most Dominant

RANK NAME SCHOOL WEIGHT AVG. TEAM POINTS
1 Mark Hall Penn St. 174 4.70
2 Pat Glory Princeton 125 4.54
3 Spencer Lee Iowa 125 4.50
4 Nick Lee Penn St. 141 4.29
5 Kollin Moore Ohio St. 197 4.19
6 Shane Griffith Stanford 165 4.16
7 Mason Parris Michigan 285 4.14
7 Hayden Hidlay NC State 157 4.11
9 Ryan Deakin Northwestern 157 4.10
10 Real Woods Stanford 141 4.05

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2 hours ago, JeanGuy said:

Aparantly the NCAA users of to do their calculation. 

It is like arguing with computer rankings. You may not agree but the algorithm is the algorithm. 

Stats are facts they are one way to look at them. 

It’s strange that the NCAA would use it as their stat. In fact, they don’t appear to use the two medical forfeits in their “stats” until the final ranking. On 2/26/20, the rankings before the conference tournaments, Lee wasn’t even ranked because he didn’t meet the criteria of 16 matches (he was 15-0.) Two weeks later, they credit him with 5 additional matches when he only wrestled 3 matches at big tens. 90/20=4.5 90/18=5.

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8 hours ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said:

Why should he be the one to inform NCAA.com? 

You're the one who posted this trash without, a) thinking critically about the data (Lee's rating should have been a red flag, seeing as he was at a 5.0 dominance score leading into conference weekend), and b) didn't bother to leave a citation or any indication of where this data was pulled from.

I’m ashamed to say it, but it gets me good every time you make a serious post.

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On 3/12/2020 at 6:41 PM, JeanGuy said:

It is a stat posted by the NCAA. it is their star so it is correct. You may not agree with it but it isn't wrong. 

Spencer Lee was named most dominant with a 5.0 today so I guess the NCAA decided their “stats” cited in this thread were indeed inaccurate.

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1 hour ago, shieldofpistis said:

Why is Moore behind guys who aren't undefeated?  Moore more likely to win than Hall and Nick Lee.  

Not for most dominant.  It’s just how many team points you score per match.  Moore didn’t get a lot of bonus.

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1 hour ago, mistydawn said:

Scores were updated and Lee was first and Hall 2nd.  Both had incredible scores.  Averaging 5.0 is insane.  

It’s too bad Hall didn’t decide to skip out on 3 of his 4 toughest matches.  He would have won this award (and the Hodge apparently) going away!

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