77again 104 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 No Harvard athletes will be allowed to compete in the track and field NCAA's. I'm assuming this also covers wrestling. I'm guessing others will follow. https://www.flotrack.org/articles/6738641-harvard-forbids-athletes-from-competing-at-ncaas-due-to-covid-19?utm_medium=Email&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_source=newsletter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,826 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 Bummer. Feel sorry for those athletes. 1 jross reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red blades 245 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 Harvard and Yale both dropped out of the ECAC Hockey tournament. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
witwhiz 37 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 The Ivy League cancelled all spring sport activities but left it up to the individual schools as to winter sports. I haven't seen anything about Harvard dropping out of the NCAAs for wrestling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill 71 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, witwhiz said: The Ivy League cancelled all spring sport activities but left it up to the individual schools as to winter sports. I haven't seen anything about Harvard dropping out of the NCAAs for wrestling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle26 428 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 That is such a shame for the athletes who have worked so hard for this! Why not at least let them compete in an empty stadium? Has this virus ever killed anyone that is in their early 20s and is as healthy as an elite athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptz305 145 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: That is such a shame for the athletes who have worked so hard for this! Why not at least let them compete in an empty stadium? Has this virus ever killed anyone that is in their early 20s and is as healthy as an elite athlete? No, but that is not the point. The point is that they want to take steps to stop the spread. The healthy 20 something athlete will probably be fine, but what about the people they might come in contact with, and what about the people those people might come in contact with? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,987 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 It’s not surprising that Harvard would do this. They don’t want their employees traveling and they’re not going to make an exception for the wrestling coaches. Athletics is a very small part of what Harvard is about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) When Harvard did this, I thought it would create a domino effect. Really surprised all the other Ivys are still on board. Edited March 12, 2020 by russelscout Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle26 428 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ptz305 said: No, but that is not the point. The point is that they want to take steps to stop the spread. The healthy 20 something athlete will probably be fine, but what about the people they might come in contact with, and what about the people those people might come in contact with? Why don’t they do this for the flu then? Because it’s impossible to limit all human contact. If the wrestlers don’t currently have it, they are not spreading it to each other. Letting them compete is no risk. The spectators are the risk of bringing in the disease. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichB 189 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Well, could the HArvard guys go without coaches, Hitch hiking there would not be a good Idea (remember Kansas State) Somewhere the real UNIBOMBER is laughing at us Edited March 12, 2020 by RichB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, russelscout said: When Harvard did this, I thought it would create a domino effect. Really surprised all the other Ivys are still on board. Yah, I’m guessing the dominoes simply haven’t fallen yet but I also expected the others to follow suit pretty quickly. The Ivy athletic depts are much more beholden to their parent institutions, who are in turn very endowment-dependent and hence risk averse about these sort of things. All the Ivies except I think Cornell are either on or about to go on spring break, so that could be another factor in the announcements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocBZ 89 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 Harvard is also in one of the hotspots of the nation too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,485 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, DocBZ said: Harvard is also in one of the hotspots of the nation too. Flu not wrestling! 1 1 madcat11 and ConnorsDad reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,485 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: Why don’t they do this for the flu then? Because it’s impossible to limit all human contact. If the wrestlers don’t currently have it, they are not spreading it to each other. Letting them compete is no risk. The spectators are the risk of bringing in the disease. Not showing symptoms doesn't mean they aren't carrying. Apparently young kids aren't showing any symptoms but are carrying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panther78 31 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 And Disneyland is still taking tickets at the gate...........smells fishy to me.................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Panther78 said: And Disneyland is still taking tickets at the gate...........smells fishy to me.................. Wow. Crazy bc I know Shanghai and Tokyo Disneylands are closed or were. Edited March 12, 2020 by russelscout Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,079 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Eagle26 said: That is such a shame for the athletes who have worked so hard for this! Why not at least let them compete in an empty stadium? Has this virus ever killed anyone that is in their early 20s and is as healthy as an elite athlete? Dude this is a public health crisis. This is way more important than any individual. sucks for them, but it is the reality. If they hold the tournament, they will further spread this disease. 1 CoachWrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panther78 31 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, russelscout said: Wow. Crazy bc I know Shanghai and Tokyo Disneylands are closed or were. So why not the US if it is so contageous and we are worried about thousands of people in one spot going home after exposure to thousands of people..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Panther78 said: So why not the US if it is so contageous and we are worried about thousands of people in one spot going home after exposure to thousands of people..... Money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptz305 145 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: Why don’t they do this for the flu then? Because it’s impossible to limit all human contact. If the wrestlers don’t currently have it, they are not spreading it to each other. Letting them compete is no risk. The spectators are the risk of bringing in the disease. You're right. So because we don't do it for the flu, we should just continue to act negligently rather than run the risk of appearing hypocritical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lipdrag 31 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 I believe very strongly that the effects of the reaction to this virus will cause much more long term negative effects and human misery than the virus itself. In no way do I mean this to be insensitive to any individual or family that loses a loved one. I am talking macro effects here. For perspective - about 10,000 people die every day in the USA and more than 250,000 worldwide die every day. 2 treep2000 and Antitroll2828 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panther78 31 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Housebuye said: Dude this is a public health crisis. This is way more important than any individual. sucks for them, but it is the reality. If they hold the tournament, they will further spread this disease. 1 minute ago, russelscout said: Money. So don't try to sell me the public health crisis........... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 58 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 These healthy low risk group wrestlers are more likely to be exposed to something hanging around the general public in everyday life than during a tournament in a mostly empty building not too mention the coaches will have them in their rooms if not at the event. People act like everyone would be hiding at home if they were not going to be at the tournament wrestling. These thousands of fans and the athletes are walking around going to work and doing their thing every day. 1 Panther78 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 536 Report post Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, Housebuye said: Dude this is a public health crisis. This is way more important than any individual. sucks for them, but it is the reality. If they hold the tournament, they will further spread this disease. Dude it’s the flu not Ebola or the disease from Contagion...staph infections are more dangerous for a wrestler then this flu. I think no fans in the arena is a good idea and honestly more then likely everything will be fine 1 BLT reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites