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Oh my, we have another group of people who don't get it. They come in waves on this site.

On an unrelated note. Pornhub is offering a free premium subscription to all of Italy as they are still in quarantine. They will also donate all profits from March too. 

As noted by a Reddit user, this is awfully irresponsible with a toilet paper shortage.

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9 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

I believe very strongly that the effects of the reaction to this virus will cause much more long term negative effects and human misery than the virus itself.  In no way do I mean this to be insensitive to any individual or family that loses a loved one.  I am talking macro effects here.

For perspective - about 10,000 people die every day in the USA and more than 250,000 worldwide die every day.

 

8 minutes ago, Panther78 said:

 

So don't try to sell me the public health crisis...........

Its important to realize that if the healthcare system gets too many people to take care of, there will be an increase in mortality rate like they are now seeing in Italy. This is all precautionary, but for a very good reason. 

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3 minutes ago, russelscout said:

 

Its important to realize that if the healthcare system gets too many people to take care of, there will be an increase in mortality rate like they are now seeing in Italy. This is all precautionary, but for a very good reason. 

But why is it important for the NCAA but not Disneyland? My brain is simple minded wired....sorry.........

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1 minute ago, Panther78 said:

But why is it important for the NCAA but not Disneyland? My brain is simple minded wired....sorry.........

Because Disneyland is a company. It is ultimately up to them. The NCAA chose to kick fans out, but they didn't have to. It takes a risk assessment. Take a loss financially and be safe or risk it for financial reason. NCAA chose to play it safe and Disneyland is choosing not to.

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6 minutes ago, russelscout said:

Because Disneyland is a company. It is ultimately up to them. The NCAA chose to kick fans out, but they didn't have to. It takes a risk assessment. Take a loss financially and be safe or risk it for financial reason. NCAA chose to play it safe and Disneyland is choosing not to.

But I thought it was a "public" concern.......health care concern.........I'm just saying....either it is a concern, public or private or it is not a concern.......I went to work today because of money........which makes me a part of the "problem"......

I'm headed to the White Mountains, Alpine, Az for spring break.....fishing, antler hunting and driving snow covered dirt roads for a week......I'm gonna be just fine!!!

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1 minute ago, Panther78 said:

But I thought it was a "public" concern.......health care concern.........I'm just saying....either it is a concern, public or private or it is not a concern.......I went to work today because of money........which makes me a part of the "problem"......

I'm headed to the White Mountains, Alpine, Az for spring break.....fishing, antler hunting and driving snow covered dirt roads for a week......I'm gonna be just fine!!!

Congrats bro! Takes a very big man to prioritize his own needs over the health of immunocomprised!

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8 minutes ago, Panther78 said:

But I thought it was a "public" concern.......health care concern.........I'm just saying....either it is a concern, public or private or it is not a concern.......I went to work today because of money........which makes me a part of the "problem"......

I'm headed to the White Mountains, Alpine, Az for spring break.....fishing, antler hunting and driving snow covered dirt roads for a week......I'm gonna be just fine!!!

False. Plenty of room for middle ground.

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To put this in perspective...this virus has been spreading and around for three months (maybe longer only China really knows) there are only 127,000 confirmed cases out of the 7.8 billion people on the planet...out of those 127,000 confirmed cases 80,000 are in the China...so China a country with a population of 1.4 billion people has 80,000 cases...the 6.4 billion left in the world have have 47,000 cases...just looking at the numbers it seems overblown 

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2 minutes ago, russelscout said:

I think maybe you should see this:

https://t.co/YOxJlf9pJv

 

 

 

 

I actually already have shot gun shells and gasoline :) 

Who is Kyle Bryant?

Good representation of what is out there though and by no means am I a tough guy, just watching the money makers keeping their gates open and going to work......

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Harvard is a big fan of Jimmy Carter.  Let’s get the take off some wrestlers who qualified for the 80 olympics but couldn’t go because of some political stance.  
 

They could always postpone this.   After all, the NCAA tournament is a  trials qualifier.  Or they can take the NCO as a qualifier?  
 

Cornell isn’t really ivy, so they will be going.  

 

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36 minutes ago, russelscout said:

Because Disneyland is a company. It is ultimately up to them. The NCAA chose to kick fans out, but they didn't have to. It takes a risk assessment. Take a loss financially and be safe or risk it for financial reason. NCAA chose to play it safe and Disneyland is choosing not to.

Guessing here but Disneyland doesn't cause unknown people to be sitting for periods of time immediately next to each other?

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11 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

To put this in perspective...this virus has been spreading and around for three months (maybe longer only China really knows) there are only 127,000 confirmed cases out of the 7.8 billion people on the planet...out of those 127,000 confirmed cases 80,000 are in the China...so China a country with a population of 1.4 billion people has 80,000 cases...the 6.4 billion left in the world have have 47,000 cases...just looking at the numbers it seems overblown 

So? These numbers are lower because of the mass quarantines in China. You think this is overblown, but we have 127,000 confirmed cases all while countries have quarantined and have shut down businesses and stopped travel. Why is it that people will only see things as an acceptable response when a whole bunch of people die? We can't fix things in hindsight. A proactive approach is the only way to stop pandemics from becoming disastrous. We can't wait until half the country is sick and then say, "whoa we should do something now" because it is too late. 

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3 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

Guessing here but Disneyland doesn't cause unknown people to be sitting for periods of time immediately next to each other?

 

1 minute ago, Mphillips said:

Have you been in some of those lines...

I'm hoping gimp was being sarcastic about that...... 

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1 minute ago, russelscout said:

So? These numbers are lower because of the mass quarantines in China. You think this is overblown, but we have 127,000 confirmed cases all while countries have quarantine and have shut down business and stopped travel. Why is it that people will only see things as an acceptable response when a whole bunch of people die? We can't fix things in hindsight. A proactive approach is the only way to stop pandemics from becoming disastrous. We can't wait until half the country is sick and then say, "whoa we should do something now" because it is too late. 

What countries have quarantined other then China and now Italy? We re the first major country to ban air travel from Europe, plus China has sick people fleeing everyday all across the globe for 5 months now and still only 47,000 cases world wide....I’m not saying being precautionary isn’t the right thing to do and the nba had to do what it had to do because of the idiot on the Jazz, but shutting down the whole world is just ridiculous

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16 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

To put this in perspective...this virus has been spreading and around for three months (maybe longer only China really knows) there are only 127,000 confirmed cases out of the 7.8 billion people on the planet...out of those 127,000 confirmed cases 80,000 are in the China...so China a country with a population of 1.4 billion people has 80,000 cases...the 6.4 billion left in the world have have 47,000 cases...just looking at the numbers it seems overblown 

Diseases can spread with exponential growth, which is why it better to react early and aggressively.

China was late to take action but was eventually very aggresive

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2 minutes ago, Panther78 said:

I'm hoping gimp was being sarcastic about that...... 

About which?  It's mostly families/friends together walking around or on the rides with little other interactions. However, MPhillips is largely right about the lines- I laughed at it because I hadn't though about that.

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Just now, gimpeltf said:

About which?  It's mostly families/friends together walking around or on the rides with little other interactions. However, MPhillips is largely right about the lines- I laughed at it because I hadn't though about that.

Just the idea that there isn't interaction going on at Disneyland......thousands of people using restrooms, buying gifts, eating.......in my opinion, simple opinion, no different than an NCAA venue.........no disrespect..........

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2 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

What countries have quarantined other then China and now Italy? We re the first major country to ban air travel from Europe, plus China has sick people fleeing everyday all across the globe for 5 months now and still only 47,000 cases world wide....I’m not saying being precautionary isn’t the right thing to do and the nba had to do what it had to do because of the idiot on the Jazz, but shutting down the whole world is just ridiculous

All are quarentining the exposed. Countries across the world are taking measures to manage the spread.

Also, don't you think there is a bit of cognitive dissonance when saying precautionary actions are the right thing to do while also commenting on how overblown this is?

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3 minutes ago, Panther78 said:

Just the idea that there isn't interaction going on at Disneyland......thousands of people using restrooms, buying gifts, eating.......in my opinion, simple opinion, no different than an NCAA venue.........no disrespect..........

I didn't say no interaction just not as much sitting for hours near someone with the virus. From what I've seen it's more person to person than indirect through surfaces.

In the arena you might have double figures of people within 6 feet for hours on end.

Person-to-person spread

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

  • Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
  • Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Can someone spread the virus without being sick?

  • People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest).
  • Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms; there have been reports of this occurring with this new coronavirus, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

Spread from contact with contaminated surfaces or objects

It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

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