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16 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

What countries have quarantined other then China and now Italy? We re the first major country to ban air travel from Europe, plus China has sick people fleeing everyday all across the globe for 5 months now and still only 47,000 cases world wide....I’m not saying being precautionary isn’t the right thing to do and the nba had to do what it had to do because of the idiot on the Jazz, but shutting down the whole world is just ridiculous

At what point are people gonna realize the numbers are rapidly and drastically changing?

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1 minute ago, gimpeltf said:

I didn't say no interaction just not as much sitting for hours near someone with the virus. From what I've seen it's more person to person than indirect through surfaces.

In the arena you might have double figures of people within 6 feet for hours on end.

Person-to-person spread

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

  • Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
  • Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Can someone spread the virus without being sick?

  • People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest).
  • Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms; there have been reports of this occurring with this new coronavirus, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

Spread from contact with contaminated surfaces or objects

It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

And in Disneyland you might stand next to hundreds of different people and that one sneezes all over you.........and my point really only being.......exposure is exposure, NCAA or Disneyland and yet that closed Disney door hasn't happened on US soil yet.......

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Just now, Plasmodium said:

Holy smokes.  This disease is exacting a heavy toll.  Considering the cost of medical care in our country, imagine what $1 week in the hospital x 10000000 people would be.  My bar napkin says 1 trillion dollars.

And Joe Kennedy wants US government to offer free health care to everybody who gets the virus..............

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7 minutes ago, Panther78 said:

And Joe Kennedy wants US government to offer free health care to everybody who gets the virus..............

Unless the doctors and nurses work without pay and the electricity company transmits without compensation and all property taxes are revoked for that time and all people paid by the property taxes also do not require compensation, etc. etc. then IT IS NOT FREE!!

The only question is who pays for it but it is not and cannot be free.  Joe Kennedy wants all federal tax payers (about 35% of the population) to pay for the health care of everyone who gets the virus.  The reason we have health insurance (private, medicare, medicaid) is for just this sort of situation.  Let it work.

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7 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

Unless the doctors and nurses work without pay and the electricity company transmits without compensation and all property taxes are revoked for that time and all people paid by the property taxes also do not require compensation, etc. etc. then IT IS NOT FREE!!

The only question is who pays for it but it is not and cannot be free.  Joe Kennedy wants all federal tax payers (about 35% of the population) to pay for the health care of everyone who gets the virus.  The reason we have health insurance (private, medicare, medicaid) is for just this sort of situation.  Let it work.

There are tens of millions without insurance, who cannot afford testing or treatment; they also likely cannot afford time off, so they'll be working and risking their health (and your health).  Yeah, "let it work."

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4 minutes ago, klehner said:

There are tens of millions without insurance, who cannot afford testing or treatment; they also likely cannot afford time off, so they'll be working and risking their health (and your health).  Yeah, "let it work."

Pretty sure the testing is going to be free 

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2 minutes ago, klehner said:

There are tens of millions without insurance, who cannot afford testing or treatment; they also likely cannot afford time off, so they'll be working and risking their health (and your health).  Yeah, "let it work."

Exactly. It's amazing how many Americans don't understand that they're only as safe as the least safe among them. The state paying for treatment is not only the moral thing to do, but is absolutely essential to public health because it will allow those who cannot afford to see a doctor to get treatment which is essential to containing this thing. Taiwan has been the most effective country at combating it. One of their top officials attributed it to their universal health coverage and generous payment for food and services during quarantine. That eliminated any incentive anybody had not to seek treatment such as not being able to afford the treatment or not being able to afford the time missed from work. 

This virus is the great equalizer. You can have great insurance. But if your neighbor doesn't have the ability to access healthcare, you're in big trouble.

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1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

Exactly. It's amazing how many Americans don't understand that they're only as safe as the least safe among them. The state paying for treatment is not only the moral thing to do, but is absolutely essential to public health because it will allow those who cannot afford to see a doctor to get treatment which is essential to containing this thing. Taiwan has been the most effective country at combating it. One of their top officials attributed it to their universal health coverage and generous payment for food and services during quarantine. That eliminated any incentive anybody had not to seek treatment such as not being able to afford the treatment or not being able to afford the time missed from work. 

This virus is the great equalizer. You can have great insurance. But if your neighbor doesn't have the ability to access healthcare, you're in big trouble.

Same applies to those who are against "sanctuary cities":  you really don't want everyone to get vaccinated or seek medical attention when they have a communicable disease?

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2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Exactly. It's amazing how many Americans don't understand that they're only as safe as the least safe among them. The state paying for treatment is not only the moral thing to do, but is absolutely essential to public health because it will allow those who cannot afford to see a doctor to get treatment which is essential to containing this thing. Taiwan has been the most effective country at combating it. One of their top officials attributed it to their universal health coverage and generous payment for food and services during quarantine. That eliminated any incentive anybody had not to seek treatment such as not being able to afford the treatment or not being able to afford the time missed from work. 

This virus is the great equalizer. You can have great insurance. But if your neighbor doesn't have the ability to access healthcare, you're in big trouble.

Your comparing a country smaller then some states with a population of 23 million to USA 

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3 minutes ago, klehner said:

There are tens of millions without insurance, who cannot afford testing or treatment; they also likely cannot afford time off, so they'll be working and risking their health (and your health).  Yeah, "let it work."

I've told myself over and over I'm the idiot in the room.....I work......I pay my bills.......I have insurance.......pay an incredible amount every paycheck for that insurance.......and my smart POS brother in law gets knee replacements, unbelievable tax returns......doesn't work......doesn't have insurance.......................i'm the idiot..... :) 

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Boris Johnson in Britain is actually is holding a very coherent announcement right now on what the action plan is, why those decisions were made, possible changes, along with a scientific and a medical advisor who are prepared to go over the facts with a power point. 
 


 

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37 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

Holy smokes.  This disease is exacting a heavy toll.  Considering the cost of medical care in our country, imagine what $1 week in the hospital x 10000000 people would be.  My bar napkin says 1 trillion dollars.

Did you mean 10 million?

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29 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Exactly. It's amazing how many Americans don't understand that they're only as safe as the least safe among them. The state paying for treatment is not only the moral thing to do, but is absolutely essential to public health because it will allow those who cannot afford to "see a doctor to get treatment which is essential to containing this thing." Taiwan has been the most effective country at combating it. One of their top officials attributed it to their universal health coverage and generous payment for food and services during quarantine. That eliminated any incentive anybody had not to seek treatment such as not being able to afford the treatment or not being able to afford the time missed from work. 

This virus is the great equalizer. You can have great insurance. But if your neighbor doesn't have the ability to access healthcare, you're in big trouble.

 

If you have symptoms of this illness and you go to see a physician, unless you are critically ill, there is NOTHING they will do to contain the spread of the virus other than telling you to go home, limit your contact with the community, and practice supportive care.   

There is no "treatment" to limit the spread of this illness right now.  Only preventative measures and good public health practices will effectively contain the virus.

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1 hour ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Your comparing a country smaller then some states with a population of 23 million to USA 

Yes because they've been successful. China has also had success in containing it using similar measures and they're 3x bigger and far more densely populated, so what's your argument there?

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Just now, uncle bernard said:

Yes because they've been successful. China has also had success in containing it using similar measures and they're 3x bigger and far more densely populated, so what's your argument there?

You believe China has done a good job? That’s a ridiculous statement 

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