Revived Tournament

[GreatWhiteNorth 220]

26 minutes ago, shieldofpistis said:

 

Why even say anything?  Negativism.  That is what brings stuff down.  America was not built on negativism.  People thought we could never fly either.  This is a much smaller challenge. 

I sent you a PM... you're right. Negativism does bring stuff down. My advice was to give up, but you soldier on. Best of luck on your endeavor.

[shieldofpistis 153]

10 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

I sent you a PM... you're right. Negativism does bring stuff down. My advice was to give up, but you soldier on. Best of luck on your endeavor.

People may not like me but at least people know I am not Jimmy. 

[gimpeltf 1,622]

39 minutes ago, shieldofpistis said:

In July this virus probably will be mute. 

I didn't know viruses made noise!

[Coachp 49]

On 3/13/2020 at 7:47 PM, NJDan said:

That's true, but how often does anyone win who was not in the top 8 seeds? Very rarely. No one would say this would equal to the full NCAA Championship. It's a cheaper substitute that could still claim to prove who is the best college wrestler in the land.

nope

[BigTenFanboy 1,735]

On 3/14/2020 at 2:11 PM, shieldofpistis said:

Should my  church cancel on sunday?

Many have

[shieldofpistis 153]

I wanted to post Chael's take.  He knows more about wrestling, training, production, venues, and he has more personal connections to the athletes than we do.  He advocates for the word "postponed" being used.  I mean, we are America and we are acting like holding a wrestling tournament is going to Mars.  

[NJDan 671]

1 hour ago, shieldofpistis said:

I wanted to post Chael's take.  He knows more about wrestling, training, production, venues, and he has more personal connections to the athletes than we do.  He advocates for the word "postponed" being used.  I mean, we are America and we are acting like holding a wrestling tournament is going to Mars.  

Makes a great point. But he should have noted that the decision was made not by wrestling powers, but by the NCAA. and is applied to all sports.

 

[Lurker 1,458]

13 minutes ago, NJDan said:

Makes a great point. But he should have noted that the decision was made not by wrestling powers, but by the NCAA. and is applied to all sports.

 

And I also wonder if Chael and others think that maybe the people who do this thing for a living looked at postponement alternatives?  I mean I wasn't in the room but I can't imagine the only two options looked at and discussed were have it on time or cancel it all together.

[Cptafw164 108]

15 minutes ago, Lurker said:

And I also wonder if Chael and others think that maybe the people who do this thing for a living looked at postponement alternatives?  I mean I wasn't in the room but I can't imagine the only two options looked at and discussed were have it on time or cancel it all together.

I think the reaction time was not enough to get an alternate venue and plan the logistics.  If they said “postpone” from the start, people will be waiting for the announcement.  
 

better to just say “canceled” and let some schools or other entities do the legwork.  

[spladle 179]

Time to move on.  Wrestling is petty in the grand scheme.  Makes for some coulda, shoulda, woulda stories but there are bigger things in life now.

[Force118 150]

If our biggest concern coming out this ends up being a cancelled NCAA tournament we should consider ourselves extremely lucky. Many others will not be.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Force118

[BigTenFanboy 1,735]

1 minute ago, Force118 said:

If our biggest gripe out coming out this ends up being a cancelled NCAA tournament we should consider ourselves extremely lucky. Many others will not be.

Its entitlement.. people are way too entitled.

[spladle 179]

Right now I am far more concerned about disinfecting a large school and not bringing the virus near family members.

[Lurker 1,458]

15 minutes ago, Cptafw164 said:

I think the reaction time was not enough to get an alternate venue and plan the logistics.  If they said “postpone” from the start, people will be waiting for the announcement.  
 

better to just say “canceled” and let some schools or other entities do the legwork.  

I don't disagree, I'm referring to people who seem to think there was zero thought into possibly being postponed and jumped straight to just cancel the whole thing.  And again keeping in mind you can't just do for one sport and not do for the rest of them as well.  So it wasn't just about figuring out how to postpone the wrestling tournament or the men's basketball, etc etc.  Have to do the same thing for all.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Lurker

[Cptafw164 108]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

I don't disagree, I'm referring to people who seem to think there was zero thought into possibly being postponed and jumped straight to just cancel the whole thing.  And again keeping in mind you can't just do for one sport and not do for the rest of them as well.  So it wasn't just about figuring out how to postpone the wrestling tournament or the men's basketball, etc etc.  Have to do the same thing for all.

Exactly.  It’s better to have people pleasantly surprised in case conditions change.

[shieldofpistis 153]

4 hours ago, Lurker said:

I don't disagree, I'm referring to people who seem to think there was zero thought into possibly being postponed and jumped straight to just cancel the whole thing.  And again keeping in mind you can't just do for one sport and not do for the rest of them as well.  So it wasn't just about figuring out how to postpone the wrestling tournament or the men's basketball, etc etc.  Have to do the same thing for all.

That's is exactly why I have said for days that it would work if another entity besides the NCAA's put it on.  That's not new.

[shieldofpistis 153]

2 hours ago, Cptafw164 said:

Exactly.  It’s better to have people pleasantly surprised in case conditions change.

They won't change unless people actually act like they want a tournament

[shieldofpistis 153]

5 hours ago, BigTenFanboy said:

Its entitlement.. people are way too entitled.

Nothing spells entitled to having the freedom to spend 14 hours a day in a wrestling message forum like you.  

[BigTenFanboy 1,735]

Just now, shieldofpistis said:

Nothing spells entitled to having the freedom to spend 14 hours a day in a wrestling message forum like you.  

Nothing spells entitled like a 43 year old man moaning and groaning demanding that pther people put together a tournament months after the season ends, expecting the top wrestlers to hold weight, keep training, stay sharp and compete at their highest level (because if they dont theyre not true competitors) all for the entertainment and enjoyment of said 43 year old man who has a poor internet temper who has his wife write his emails for him because because he comes off like a jerk online. All your words, not mine.

[BigTenFanboy 1,735]

15 minutes ago, shieldofpistis said:

They won't change unless people actually act like they want a tournament

Everyone wants their sports restored. Only the self entitled expect it to be done and handed to them on a silver platter.

[shieldofpistis 153]

The place is the easy aspect.  Having a respectable entity outside of ncaa is the only challenge.  Venue way easier than people think.

[shieldofpistis 153]

3 minutes ago, BigTenFanboy said:

Everyone wants their sports restored. Only the self entitled expect it to be done and handed to them on a silver platter.

Not all of us can live on this forum. And you speak of entitled?

[BigTenFanboy 1,735]

Just now, shieldofpistis said:

The place is the easy aspect.  Having a respectable entity outside of ncaa is the only challenge.  Venue way easier than people think.

So go book it! You have any idea how many places are going to be fighting for venues after this whole thing passes? Obviously not.

[BigTenFanboy 1,735]

Just now, shieldofpistis said:

Not all of us can live on this forum. And you speak of entitled?

Yes i speak of entitled. You expect people to fall at your feet. We are not your congregation mr pastor sir.

[shieldofpistis 153]

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