MatJunkie 6 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Zain is a heck of a wrestler, but his style does not translate to international success. He is very good domestically, but it is time to stop sending him as a rep for Team USA. Send Yianni or JO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mspart 270 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 I'm not sure of all of that. But I have to say not getting it done at Pan Ams is an easier rout than trying the last chance. He is our best and has proved that. It may not be good enough though. mspart 2 spladle08 and herma48852 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatJunkie 6 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Has he really? Yes, he did win Final X...after having months to prepare for 1 match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GranbyTroll 454 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Metcalf was our best and it didn't matter. It's the world's toughest weight and you have to be pretty good. 2 spladle08 and Nicky_Pipes reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,049 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 I'd rather see someone else go myself, but they have to beat Zain first. That's the way it works. 2 BadgerMon and BigTenFanboy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 I'm rooting for Oliver, but I thought Zain looked pretty good yesterday. He wrestles kind of open and loose, which is why he got caught, but his shots looked crisp and he scrambled pretty well. Looked strong and explosive. As @spladle08 mentioned in another thread, Zain would have won that match 9/10 times. Speaking of JO, I am so nervous for him rn. He's had some tough setbacks in his post-college wrestling career, and if it would be heartbreaking if the Olympics are canceled or the weight not qualified. 3 Crash, Nicky_Pipes and spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatJunkie 6 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, pamela said: I'm rooting for Oliver, but I thought Zain looked pretty good yesterday. He wrestles kind of open and loose, which is why he got caught, but his shots looked crisp and he scrambled pretty well. Looked strong and explosive. As @spladle08 mentioned in another thread, Zain would have won that match 9/10 times. Speaking of JO, I am so nervous for him rn. He's had some tough setbacks in his post-college wrestling career, and if it would be heartbreaking if the Olympics are canceled or the weight not qualified. I'm not sure anyone has ever said Zain wrestles open and loose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 240 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, MatJunkie said: Zain is a heck of a wrestler, but his style does not translate to international success. He is very good domestically, but it is time to stop sending him as a rep for Team USA. Send Yianni or JO. Do you really want USAW picking our reps? That creates too much of an opportunity for favoritism, not to mention corruption, to suborn the process, IMO, to be worth any potentially better results. 1 Alwayswrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, MatJunkie said: I'm not sure anyone has ever said Zain wrestles open and loose. By that I mean he's less careful about picking his attacks and wins on pace and brutal scrambling, which is a strength. Patience is not one of his virtues. Look at how he got pinned attempting a leglace yesterday, he tried to turn it before having it cinched. 1 bnwtwg reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nom 1,210 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 The board was clamoring the same way when Metcalf was our rep and not getting it done. I’m guessing the Iowa haters wanted him out and the Iowa lovers said the spot is his - let him get it done. And now the spotlight is on Zain. Did someone say that the last chance is after OTT? Guess no one knows. But hoping that this IS the case. Let our selected Olympic rep go to the last chance. All on that person at that point. 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatJunkie 6 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, nom said: The board was clamoring the same way when Metcalf was our rep and not getting it done. I’m guessing the Iowa haters wanted him out and the Iowa lovers said the spot is his - let him get it done. And now the spotlight is on Zain. Did someone say that the last chance is after OTT? Guess no one knows. But hoping that this IS the case. Let our selected Olympic rep go to the last chance. All on that person at that point. That's how it was in 2016. J'den won OTT's, then won the LCQ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,312 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Zain Train earned his position, so he is the guy and end of story. 8 BigTenFanboy, Ogalthorpe Haywood, JBluegill133 and 5 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mspart 270 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Agreed. mspart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 1,103 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 OTT and last chance are both indefinitely postponed. Previously they were back to back but there *may* be a chance to give a small break between the events, though I doubt it will be much. Tinfoil hat prediction Covid-19 testing kits are readily available to general public with no shortages Olympic date announced Last Chance date announced OTT date announced with as much buffer between OTT and Last Chance as possible. OTT competitors get tested 1 week-ish prior to OTT OTT winners go to Last Chance with a 3 week break between competitions. There may be, literally, 1-2 weeks between Last Chance and kickoff of Olympics which wrestling is currently scheduled at the end of the 2 week event. This is obviously pending Olympics carrying on as scheduled which is a huge maybe to say the least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,042 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Then somebody needs to beat him. Yianni had his opportunity. Maybe he gets him this time? Or JO does? Either way, it's his spot, he did nothing wrong other than earn it. 9 PSUMike, Tofurky, hammerlockthree and 6 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mspart 270 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) It's Frank the Tank! He will rise to the occasion and make another Olympic squad. mspart Edited March 16, 2020 by mspart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogalthorpe Haywood 399 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 This is the process whether we likes it or not. I did like how the women handled the spots open for qualifying. A mini tournament with no more than 3 or 4 people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanGerMan 152 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 Was the guy that stuck Zain the same one that Yianni beat a couple weeks ago? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 11 hours ago, MatJunkie said: Zain is a heck of a wrestler, but his style does not translate to international success. He is very good domestically, but it is time to stop sending him as a rep for Team USA. Send Yianni or JO. you're a monday morning QB toolbag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, mspart said: It's Frank the Tank! He will rise to the occasion and make another Olympic squad. mspart no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 924 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 Was the guy that stuck Zain the same one that Yianni beat a couple weeks ago?Yes, Yianni beat him last week. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,790 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, DanGerMan said: Was the guy that stuck Zain the same one that Yianni beat a couple weeks ago? You mean the Yanni and Zain beat twice... then beat again in the special wrestle off? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cptafw164 130 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 It will be good to see Oliver, zain and Yianni at the last chance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 924 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 It will be good to see Oliver, zain and Yianni at the last chance. A nation can only enter one wrestler per weight class. This is the same tourney that J’den and Gorilla qualified their respective weights in 2016. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 529 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, lu_alum said: This is the same tourney that J’den and Gorilla qualified their respective weights in 2016. Sort of. The last couple cycles, there have been two levels of world qualifiers and 19 total participants per weight at the Olympics. The first one used to qualify 3 per weight (J'Den qualified through that one) and the second qualified 2 (Molinaro got to the alternate spot that ended up qualifying him after drug tests through this one). This time, participants have been reduced to 16 at the Olympics, so we only get the final qualifier with 2 qualifying. 1 whaletail reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
