Tofurky 593 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Scrap Iron said: Illinois Sorry, I am not up on results. This was off top of my head Larry Kristoff Olympics Tim Wright 4x DII NC Rock Island Earnest Benion NC Mike Poeta Ron Clinton Kevin Puebla Moline Mark Johnson Rock Island Booker Benford NC Al Sears NC All time pin record Allan Grammer DII NC and DI placer Matt Lackey Moline NC Mark Kristoff Kip Kristoff sure I am missing a few This is a weird list indeed. Joe Williams - 4x HS champ, 7, 1, 1, 1 in college, then a 2004 Olympian, a two-time world silver medalist, and five-time World Team member at two different weights. TJ Williams (Joe's younger brother) - 4x HS champ, NJCAA runner-up, then 1, 3, 1 at Iowa, finishing with a 99-1 record for the Hawkeyes. TC Dantzler (cousin of Steve, Joe, and TJ Williams) - one-time HS state finalist, 4x D1 NQ for Northern Illinois U., five-time World team rep and 2008 Olympian in Greco-Roman. Steve Marianetti - one-time HS state finalist, in college at University of Illinois, Steve went NQ, 4, 5, 1, stopping Lincoln McIlravy from becoming the second 4x NC in D1 history, then he was the 1998 World team rep at 76 kilos. Not bad for a kid who was a preferred walk-on and didn't receive wrestling scholarship money until his RS sophomore season. He turned into an pretty darn good coach, too. Some other decent kids: Joe Rau, Sean Bormet, Mark Massery, Jimmy Kennedy, Tommy Erikson, Mike Mena, Scott and Mark Trizzino, Eric Tannenbaum... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 569 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 8:53 AM, klehner said: New York: Kyle Dake 4x NCAA champ Dave Auble 2x NCAA champ (1x Outstanding Wrestler), 55-1 college record Yianni D. 2x NCAA champ What about the Banachs and Nickerson? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VND 14 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Tofurky said: This is a weird list indeed. Joe Williams - 4x HS champ, 7, 1, 1, 1 in college, then a 2004 Olympian, a two-time world silver medalist, and five-time World Team member at two different weights. TJ Williams (Joe's younger brother) - 4x HS champ, NJCAA runner-up, then 1, 3, 1 at Iowa, finishing with a 99-1 record for the Hawkeyes. TC Dantzler (cousin of Steve, Joe, and TJ Williams) - one-time HS state finalist, 4x D1 NQ for Northern Illinois U., five-time World team rep and 2008 Olympian in Greco-Roman. Steve Marianetti - one-time HS state finalist, in college at University of Illinois, Steve went NQ, 4, 5, 1, stopping Lincoln McIlravy from becoming the second 4x NC in D1 history, then he was the 1998 World team rep at 76 kilos. Not bad for a kid who was a preferred walk-on and didn't receive wrestling scholarship money until his RS sophomore season. He turned into an pretty darn good coach, too. Some other decent kids: Joe Rau, Sean Bormet, Mark Massery, Jimmy Kennedy, Tommy Erikson, Mike Mena, Scott and Mark Trizzino, Eric Tannenbaum... Yeah I found that list odd having not included the Williams brothers. TC Dantzler and the Williams's are cousins? Wow, i did not know that. Adding to the list Jack Griffin-1990 NCAA Champ Jon Llewelyn- 3,3,1X NCAA Champ at HWT. Fun fact, wrestled 155 as a senior in high school. Tony Davis 2x Finalist, 1x Champ Ed Giese Kirk Mammen 4xAll American. Daniel Dennis The list probably go's on but that's it for the moment. 1 Tofurky reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tofurky 593 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 7 hours ago, VND said: Yeah I found that list odd having not included the Williams brothers. TC Dantzler and the Williams's are cousins? Wow, i did not know that. Adding to the list Jack Griffin-1990 NCAA Champ Jon Llewelyn- 3,3,1X NCAA Champ at HWT. Fun fact, wrestled 155 as a senior in high school. Tony Davis 2x Finalist, 1x Champ Ed Giese Kirk Mammen 4xAll American. Daniel Dennis The list probably go's on but that's it for the moment. I may have that wrong, but I remember hearing a number of times that TC and the Williams boys are cousins. I could very well be mixing up relationships between Harvey Twisters, but that is what I am remembering. Great additions! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headache 124 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 12 hours ago, jchapman said: Wisconsin has five multi-time champs and four Hodge awards: Ringer 3X Champ Hodge winner Askren 2X Champ 2X Hodge winner King Cole 2X Champ Hodge winner Ben Peterson 2X Champ Tim Hartung 2X Champ Add John Peterson - Olympic gold and silver. And, two world freestyle medals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 317 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, headache said: Add John Peterson - Olympic gold and silver. And, two world freestyle medals. I know what you are saying, and I agree, but the topic was best college wrestlers. In my mind, John became great post college, working out with Ben, who was at Iowa State and Gable and others at that level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 1,070 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, headache said: Add John Peterson - Olympic gold and silver. And, two world freestyle medals. Yes, OP stated college wrestlers and John competed in D3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jross 279 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 20 hours ago, jackwebster said: Speaking of Myron Roderick: what happened to ye olde-time mat.com celebrity BigApple? Who was the @BigApple? I looked at his profile and activities yesterday. He seemed to know everyone and he shared fantastic stories. He hasn't been on this website for a couple of years. How is he connected to Myron Roderick? Roderick passed away in 2011. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obie 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 1:39 PM, taylor said: Just a few of the PA greats Wade Schalles 4X NC Clarion Carlton Haselrig 6X NC 3 D1 and 3 Dll UPJ Jody Strittmatter 3XNC 2 D1 1 Dll Iowa and UPJ Ed Perry 3XNC Pittsburgh Rick Bonomo 3X NC Bloomsburg Greg Jones 3XNC West Virginia Ed Ruth 3XNC Penn State Zain Rutherford 3XNC Penn State Jason Nolf 3X NC Nate Carr 2x NC Iowa State Kurt Angle 2X NC Clarion Cary Kolat 2X NC Lock Haven Jake Herbert 2XNC Northwestern Vincenzo Joseph 2X NC Spencer Lee 2X NC "at this time" First Post. Must rep my alma mater, Waynesburg Central High School. Coleman Scott 1xNC , 2x Finalist, 4x AA, 2012 Olympic Bronze, OK State What the hell....Josh Koscheck 1xNC , 2x Finalist, 4x AA, Edinboro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrap Iron 1 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 Thanks for the adds to the Illinois list. Remember I said this was off the top of my head, no research. Yeah, I missed a few. Even Tony Davis UNI and I am a UNI fan, oops Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 1,070 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, jross said: Who was the @BigApple? I looked at his profile and activities yesterday. He seemed to know everyone and he shared fantastic stories. He hasn't been on this website for a couple of years. How is he connected to Myron Roderick? Roderick passed away in 2011. Big Apple coached at Oklahoma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerMon 173 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) On 3/19/2020 at 6:53 PM, jchapman said: Wisconsin has five multi-time champs and four Hodge awards: Ringer 3X Champ Hodge winner Askren 2X Champ 2X Hodge winner King Cole 2X Champ Hodge winner Ben Peterson 2X Champ Tim Hartung 2X Champ ADD Andy Rein 1 x Champ, Olympic Silver, Tblisi Champ, 3 X AA Jimmy Haines 1 x Champ, World Silver/Olympic Trials champ in 80 Jack Reinwand 1 X Champ, World Bronze Rick Lawinger 1 X Champ, 1X runnerup Pat Christensen 1X Champ Matt Hanutke 4 X AA Eric Jetton Runnerup -3X AA Ron Parr and Bob Konovsky (Runnerup) 3 X AAs Mark Schmitz 1 X Runnerup-2X AA, wins over A Metzger, K Jackson, R Alger, M Kistler, K Monday (freestyle)and N Carr Craig Henning 1 X Runnerup screwed out of NCAA title versus Paulson, 2 X AA note: John Peterson wasn't a good wrestler til he began freestyle with Ben and Gable Edited March 24, 2020 by BadgerMon 1 jchapman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMK1 4 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 5:56 PM, DRC said: Ok, so totally bored senseless by this virus thing, here is my NY top 15 ever: 1. Kyle Dake. 4 x Nat. Champ MOW 2. Ed Banach 3 x Nat. Champ, 4 time finalist 3. Nick Gwiz 2 x Nat. champ, 3 time finalist 4 time AA 4. Lou Banach 2 x Nat. champ 3 x AA 5. Yianni D. 2 x Nat. Champ 6. Kerry McCoy 2 x Nat. Champ 3 x AA 7. Jeff Prescott 2 x Nat. Champ 3 x AA MOW 8. Dave Auble 2 x Nat. Champ 9. Troy Nickerson 1 x Nat. Champ 4 x AA 10. Gregor Gillespie 1 x Nat. Champ 4 x AA 11. Jesse Jantzen 1 x Nat. Champ, 3 x AA MOW 12. Brad Penrith 1 x Nat. Champ 3 time AA 3 time finalist 13. JP O'Connor 1 x Nat. Champ, 3 time AA 14. Josh Glen 1 x Nat. Champ 3 time AA 15. Car Anderson 1 x Nat. Champ 3 time AA Hopefully did not miss any. How about Mitch Clark from Ohio St--NCAA champ (tech fall in finals)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripNSweep 465 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) This is gonna be tough but I'll do my best.... Eric Larkin, 4x AA, NCAA champion, Hodge Trophy winner Eddie Urbano, NCAA champion, 2 or 3x AA Curly Culp, 3x AA, 1x NCAA champion Anthony Robles, NCAA champion, 3x AA Nate Gallick, 1x NCAA champion, 3x AA Aaron Simpson, 3x AA (I think) Justin Gaethje, 1x AA Ryak Finch, 2x NAIA champion Can't think of any others who won nationals or were All Americans off the top of my head.... Edited March 22, 2020 by TripNSweep Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tec87 349 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 11:32 PM, Tofurky said: This is a weird list indeed. Joe Williams - 4x HS champ, 7, 1, 1, 1 in college, then a 2004 Olympian, a two-time world silver medalist, and five-time World Team member at two different weights. TJ Williams (Joe's younger brother) - 4x HS champ, NJCAA runner-up, then 1, 3, 1 at Iowa, finishing with a 99-1 record for the Hawkeyes. TC Dantzler (cousin of Steve, Joe, and TJ Williams) - one-time HS state finalist, 4x D1 NQ for Northern Illinois U., five-time World team rep and 2008 Olympian in Greco-Roman. Steve Marianetti - one-time HS state finalist, in college at University of Illinois, Steve went NQ, 4, 5, 1, stopping Lincoln McIlravy from becoming the second 4x NC in D1 history, then he was the 1998 World team rep at 76 kilos. Not bad for a kid who was a preferred walk-on and didn't receive wrestling scholarship money until his RS sophomore season. He turned into an pretty darn good coach, too. Some other decent kids: Joe Rau, Sean Bormet, Mark Massery, Jimmy Kennedy, Tommy Erikson, Mike Mena, Scott and Mark Trizzino, Eric Tannenbaum... Slight correction, Joe’s two world medals were bronze not silver. He also won Midlands like 10 times I believe. Back when more post grads still wrestled in it and it was still a premier tournament. 1 Tofurky reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rod_frufit 5 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 11:16 AM, NJDan said: What about the Banachs and Nickerson? Do not forget Jesse Jantzen! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 317 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 11:32 PM, Tofurky said: This is a weird list indeed. Joe Williams - 4x HS champ, 7, 1, 1, 1 in college, then a 2004 Olympian, a two-time world silver medalist, and five-time World Team member at two different weights. TJ Williams (Joe's younger brother) - 4x HS champ, NJCAA runner-up, then 1, 3, 1 at Iowa, finishing with a 99-1 record for the Hawkeyes. TC Dantzler (cousin of Steve, Joe, and TJ Williams) - one-time HS state finalist, 4x D1 NQ for Northern Illinois U., five-time World team rep and 2008 Olympian in Greco-Roman. Steve Marianetti - one-time HS state finalist, in college at University of Illinois, Steve went NQ, 4, 5, 1, stopping Lincoln McIlravy from becoming the second 4x NC in D1 history, then he was the 1998 World team rep at 76 kilos. Not bad for a kid who was a preferred walk-on and didn't receive wrestling scholarship money until his RS sophomore season. He turned into an pretty darn good coach, too. Some other decent kids: Joe Rau, Sean Bormet, Mark Massery, Jimmy Kennedy, Tommy Erikson, Mike Mena, Scott and Mark Trizzino, Eric Tannenbaum... How about this one....Joey Gilbert 161-1 4 time state champion, only loss his freshman year, 2 time all-american at the University of Michigan, finishing 3rd and 6th. 1 Tofurky reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tofurky 593 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 7 hours ago, tec87 said: Slight correction, Joe’s two world medals were bronze not silver. He also won Midlands like 10 times I believe. Back when more post grads still wrestled in it and it was still a premier tournament. Correct! I'm sorry for the mistakes, and thank you for correcting them. Yes to Midlands! Wasn't hosts last title the one surrounded by controversy against one of his own student-athletes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 201 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 8:31 PM, RichB said: Vermont: 1 Robert Hamlin as a senior 2 Robert Hamlin as a sophomore 3 Robert Hamlin as a Junior 4 Robert Hamlin as a Frosh 5 Robert Hamlin his redshirt year Perhaps a similar situation in Delaware, as Sheldon Thomas is the only elite college wrestler I recall. I suspect there are others, but they were likely before my time. I can't remember his underclassmen results at Clarion, but I'm pretty sure he won 118 as a junior, and was either the 1 or 2 seed as a senior in '97. I was at NCAAs that year, and remember 8th seed (I think) Jesse Whitmer busting the bracket early, and eventually winning the weight over a tough Lindsey Durlacher. Having wrestled him dozens of times since middle school, and sitting next to his family (a complete coincidence), I was unabashedly cheering for Sheldon. Unfortunately, I think he was beaten in the semis, but wrestled back for 3rd to finish as one of Clarion's most decorated wrestlers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRC 1 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 19 hours ago, TMK1 said: How about Mitch Clark from Ohio St--NCAA champ (tech fall in finals)? after looking at my list I would add Carl Adams in spot 5, and put Mitch Clark in with the guys at 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,573 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) On 3/20/2020 at 7:54 AM, jross said: Who was the @BigApple? I looked at his profile and activities yesterday. He seemed to know everyone and he shared fantastic stories. He hasn't been on this website for a couple of years. How is he connected to Myron Roderick? Roderick passed away in 2011. Warren Applegate, IIRC. He knows a lot about wrestling. Edited March 21, 2020 by Plasmodium 1 jross reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripNSweep 465 Report post Posted March 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, whaletail said: Perhaps a similar situation in Delaware, as Sheldon Thomas is the only elite college wrestler I recall. I suspect there are others, but they were likely before my time. I can't remember his underclassmen results at Clarion, but I'm pretty sure he won 118 as a junior, and was either the 1 or 2 seed as a senior in '97. I was at NCAAs that year, and remember 8th seed (I think) Jesse Whitmer busting the bracket early, and eventually winning the weight over a tough Lindsey Durlacher. Having wrestled him dozens of times since middle school, and sitting next to his family (a complete coincidence), I was unabashedly cheering for Sheldon. Unfortunately, I think he was beaten in the semis, but wrestled back for 3rd to finish as one of Clarion's most decorated wrestlers. Bobby Telford is from Delaware. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 201 Report post Posted March 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, TripNSweep said: Bobby Telford is from Delaware. Is he the probable #2? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southend 147 Report post Posted March 22, 2020 Ok, so far, what state wins? Who produced the best? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broomstick 65 Report post Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, southend said: Ok, so far, what state wins? Who produced the best? I would say Oklahoma, with PA, NY and OH in a group behind, but the information for PA so for is maybe not as complete as it could be. Iowa, CA and Illinois are close to that group of three as well. Edited March 22, 2020 by Broomstick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites