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Will the favorites even make it to the semi finals?

  • Rivera says he is ready to go and confident.  He studied film on every potential opponent and he's beaten all the favorites.  He is vulnerable in the early rounds, having cut weight from 155-160lbs.  He is dreaming about playing the new Call of Duty with his cronies to avoid the anxiety of cutting down to 125lbs for the Olympics.  He is thinking about next year's NCAAs at 141lbs.  Can he lock in and earn the title?
  • Gross is the game planner and strategist.  He is savvy veteran that has visualized every style, move, and match in his mind.  He has been doing Rocky style workouts outside and has been getting extra practice in where he can.  He has won a title before, he has already beaten the other favorites, and he is motivated to earn the Hodge during his last NCAA hurrah.
  • RBY is possibly the best wrestler of the favorites.  He is a smart, technical wrestler that is quicker than his opponents.  His ability to get to the legs while on the attack or counterattack is impressive.  Many have RBY favored to beat Rivera and Gross if given another opportunity.
  • DeSanto is ready to rumble.  He has beaten RBY and Gross before and knows he can do it again.  He has not wrestled Rivera in college but they did match up in their youth.  DeSanto is motivated to get revenge over *Papa Rivera by beating his son.  DeSanto's antics will fire up Rivera and neither wrestler will back down.  This potential match will be chippy and who knows what could go down.  Fireworks! 

*Yes, that is the 51 year old father of Sebastian Rivera, who Sebastian says is better than 50% of his college opponents.  This is the same papa that DeSanto cursed and flipped off after losing a youth match to Sebastian in overtime. 

125lbs |  133lbs | 141lbs | 165lbs | 285lbsDiscussion

 

Pigtail Results

(33) Lawrence Saenz (FS) 14-12 vs (32) Casey Cobb (NAVY) 17-13
Winner: Casey Cobb over Lawrence Saenz 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/56597/saenz-lawrence/45566/cobb-casey
    

Round 1 Results

(1) Sebastian Rivera (NW) 13-2 vs (32) Casey Cobb (NAVY) 17-13
Winner: Sebastian Rivera over Casey Cobb 10 - 3
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44799/rivera-sebastian/45566/cobb-casey

(17) Taylor LaMont (UVU) 17-7 vs (16) Anthony Madrigal (OU) 21-9
Winner: Taylor LaMont over Anthony Madrigal 7 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44777/lamont-taylor/50633/madrigal-anthony

(9) Noah Gonser (CAMP) 30-5 vs (24) Todd Small (ISU) 18-12
Winner: Noah Gonser over Todd Small 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/40087/gonser-noah/45992/small-todd

(25) Jack Skudlarczyk (UNI) 15-13 vs (8) Montorie Bridges (WYO) 32-6
Winner: Montorie Bridges over Jack Skudlarczyk 8 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49241/skudlarczyk-jack/44844/bridges-montorie

(5) Roman Bravo-Young (PSU) 19-2 vs (28) Collin Gerardi (VT) 14-11
Winner: Roman Bravo-Young over Collin Gerardi 10 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49665/bravo-young-roman/51286/gerardi-collin

(21) Derek Spann (BUFF) 23-5 vs (12) Devan Turner (ORST) 26-9
Winner: Devan Turner over Derek Spann 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/45028/spann-derek/45397/turner-devan

(13) Tim Rooney (KENT) 26-9 vs (20) Louie Hayes (UVA) 21-11
Winner: Louie Hayes over Tim Rooney 8 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39949/rooney-tim/44641/hayes-louie

(29) Codi Russell (APP) 26-10 vs (4) Micky Phillippi (PITT) 25-1
Winner: Micky Phillippi over Codi Russell 7 - 2
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/51113/russell-codi/45230/phillippi-micky

(3) Chaz Tucker (COR) 31-0 vs (30) DJ Fehlman (LH) 23-9
Winner: Chaz Tucker over DJ Fehlman 5 - 3
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39771/tucker-chaz/39898/fehlman-dj

(19) Allan Hart (MIZZ) 20-9 vs (14) Ridge Lovett (NEB) 17-8
Winner: Ridge Lovett over Allan Hart 8 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49193/hart-allan/57520/lovett-ridge

(11) Cameron Sykora (NDSU) 17-4 vs (22) Reece Witcraft (OKST) 18-10
Winner: Cameron Sykora over Reece Witcraft 9 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39757/sykora-cameron/57312/witcraft-reece

(27) Jarrett Trombley (NCST) 20-9 vs (6) Austin DeSanto (IOWA) 17-4
Winner: Austin DeSanto over Jarrett Trombley 15 - 5 MD
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/50807/trombley-jarrett/49117/desanto-austin

(7) Travis Piotrowski (ILL) 26-4 vs (26) Zack Trampe (BING) 12-3
Winner: Travis Piotrowski over Zack Trampe 6 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44646/piotrowski-travis/51913/trampe-zack

(23) Jamie Hernandez (UNC) 16-10 vs (10) Sammy Alvarez (RUT) 26-10
Winner: Sammy Alvarez over Jamie Hernandez 8 - 3
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49213/hernandez-jamie/56763/alvarez-sammy

(15) Mosha Schwartz (UNCO) 23-10 vs (18) Nick Farro (LEH) 15-8
Winner: Mosha Schwartz over Nick Farro 8 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/55841/schwartz-mosha/44590/farro-nick

(31) Drew Marten (CMU) 21-13 vs (2) Seth Gross (WISC) 27-2
Winner: Seth Gross over Drew Marten 13 - 3 MD
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49077/marten-drew/19949/gross-seth

 

Edited by jross
updated weight class links

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Wrestleback Pigtails

(30) DJ Fehlman (LH) 23-9 vs (33) Lawrence Saenz (FS) 14-12
Winner: Lawrence Saenz over DJ Fehlman 7 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39898/fehlman-dj/56597/saenz-lawrence

 

Wrestleback Round 1 | Upset Alert!

(32) Casey Cobb (NAVY) 17-13 vs (16) Anthony Madrigal (OU) 21-9
Winner: Anthony Madrigal over Casey Cobb 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/45566/cobb-casey/50633/madrigal-anthony

(24) Todd Small (ISU) 18-12 vs (25) Jack Skudlarczyk (UNI) 15-13
Winner: Todd Small over Jack Skudlarczyk 7 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/45992/small-todd/49241/skudlarczyk-jack

(28) Collin Gerardi (VT) 14-11 vs (21) Derek Spann (BUFF) 23-5
Winner: Collin Gerardi over Derek Spann 7 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/51286/gerardi-collin/45028/spann-derek

(13) Tim Rooney (KENT) 26-9 vs (29) Codi Russell (APP) 26-10
Winner: Codi Russell over Tim Rooney 8 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39949/rooney-tim/51113/russell-codi

(33) Lawrence Saenz (FS) 14-12 vs (19) Allan Hart (MIZZ) 20-9
Winner: Allan Hart over Lawrence Saenz 8 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/56597/saenz-lawrence/49193/hart-allan

(22) Reece Witcraft (OKST) 18-10 vs (27) Jarrett Trombley (NCST) 20-9
Winner: Jarrett Trombley over Reece Witcraft 8 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/57312/witcraft-reece/50807/trombley-jarrett

(26) Zack Trampe (BING) 12-3 vs (23) Jamie Hernandez (UNC) 16-10
Winner: Jamie Hernandez over Zack Trampe 8 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/51913/trampe-zack/49213/hernandez-jamie

(18) Nick Farro (LEH) 15-8 vs (31) Drew Marten (CMU) 21-13
Winner: Drew Marten over Nick Farro 7 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44590/farro-nick/49077/marten-drew

 

Championship Round 2

(1) Sebastian Rivera (NW) 13-2 vs (17) Taylor LaMont (UVU) 17-7
Winner: Sebastian Rivera over Taylor LaMont 9 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44799/rivera-sebastian/44777/lamont-taylor

(9) Noah Gonser (CAMP) 30-5 vs (8) Montorie Bridges (WYO) 32-6
Winner: Montorie Bridges over Noah Gonser 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/40087/gonser-noah/44844/bridges-montorie

(5) Roman Bravo-Young (PSU) 19-2 vs (12) Devan Turner (ORST) 26-9
Winner: Roman Bravo-Young over Devan Turner 14 - 3 MD
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49665/bravo-young-roman/45397/turner-devan

(20) Louie Hayes (UVA) 21-11 vs (4) Micky Phillippi (PITT) 25-1
Winner: Micky Phillippi over Louie Hayes 7 - 2
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44641/hayes-louie/45230/phillippi-micky

(3) Chaz Tucker (COR) 31-0 vs (14) Ridge Lovett (NEB) 17-8
Winner: Chaz Tucker over Ridge Lovett 4 - 3
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39771/tucker-chaz/57520/lovett-ridge

(11) Cameron Sykora (NDSU) 17-4 vs (6) Austin DeSanto (IOWA) 17-4
Winner: Austin DeSanto over Cameron Sykora 8 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39757/sykora-cameron/49117/desanto-austin

(7) Travis Piotrowski (ILL) 26-4 vs (10) Sammy Alvarez (RUT) 26-10
Winner: Sammy Alvarez over Travis Piotrowski 9 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44646/piotrowski-travis/56763/alvarez-sammy

(15) Mosha Schwartz (UNCO) 23-10 vs (2) Seth Gross (WISC) 27-2
Winner: Seth Gross over Mosha Schwartz 13 - 3 MD
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/55841/schwartz-mosha/19949/gross-seth

Edited by jross
..um there must be a bug in the bot. It had Lawrence Saenz beating DJ Fehlman in the pigtail and then it put DJ in the match against Allan Hart. Manually fixed the result.

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Jross – you’re a numbers guy, I get that – but to be honest with you, this stuff is boring. The stuff you recently produced from our accounts which highlighted your cherished compadres from the upper echelon while simultaneously trying to degrade those you dislike was at least somewhat interesting. Please don’t take this the wrong way but it seems like you’re putting an awful amount of time and effort into something that really appeals to only a few.

I bet if the original framers of themat had your system in place back then it could have served a more useful purpose. It could have been used in a more productive way to increase participation by encouraging camaraderie among its existing posters while converting the 1000’s of views into even more posters.  A system like this used for growth purposes would never fly today because the owners gave the reigns over to the 20-30 or so know-alls who demonstrate daily why this site is a failure.

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8 minutes ago, Marcus Cisero said:

Jross – you’re a numbers guy, I get that – but to be honest with you, this stuff is boring. The stuff you recently produced from our accounts which highlighted your cherished compadres from the upper echelon while simultaneously trying to degrade those you dislike was at least somewhat interesting. Please don’t take this the wrong way but it seems like you’re putting an awful amount of time and effort into something that really appeals to only a few.

I bet if the original framers of themat had your system in place back then it could have served a more useful purpose. It could have been used in a more productive way to increase participation by encouraging camaraderie among its existing posters while converting the 1000’s of views into even more posters.  A system like this used for growth purposes would never fly today because the owners gave the reigns over to the 20-30 or so know-alls who demonstrate daily why this site is a failure.

Disagree.

Please keep going @jross.

I you don't want to, then thank you for the effort you did put in. At least one person appreciated it.

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46 minutes ago, Marcus Cisero said:

this stuff is boring

Multiple members requested this information.  You are the first to request it to stop.  I plan to finish out the 125lb and 133lb predictions and then gauge interest from there.  To make it more interesting, I was thinking that maybe @Perry or @VakAttack could team up on the 141lb bracket.  I'll post the predicted outcomes and they can provide the story lines.

 

46 minutes ago, Marcus Cisero said:

it seems like you’re putting an awful amount of time and effort into something

It took me a couple hours yesterday morning to write software to help simply this.  Now I literally copy the bracket names from the NCAA website and paste it into a text file, in one single action.  I run an automated program that reads the text file, looks up the wrestlestat predictions, and outputs the exact text that you see in the topic comments.  The hardest part is the self-discipline to sit on the results long enough to give time for consumption and chatter.

Edited by jross
quoted the right member

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38 minutes ago, Marcus Cisero said:

which highlighted your cherished compadres from the upper echelon while simultaneously trying to degrade those you dislike

To my knowledge, I do not know a single person on this forum.  Besides a particular enjoyment for Medicine man's humor, and @Perry's detailed fan fiction, I am fairly emotionless on members overall.  I looked up the@BigApple yesterday and became an instant fan of his storytelling.  I am trying to encourage positive behavior without being too big of an ass.  Degrade is the wrong word.  I don't dislike members, rather I dislike behaviors.  I generally like your comments and am confused by this latest one.  Your comment was fine by saying "I find this boring."  I don't know why you need all this other context added.  I'm not in charge here.  This is community driven --- keep being a part of it with less complaints please.  When someone bothers you, ignore that member or choose not to engage.  I was triggered by other member behaviors earlier and I decided to respond differently.  My experience is better because of it.  Yours can be too.

 

27 minutes ago, Marcus Cisero said:

the owners gave the reigns over to the 20-30 or so know-alls who demonstrate daily why this site is a failure

What has led you to believe there are 20-30 in charge?  So far I am aware of two admins.  Being a site admin and/or moderator is a thankless job.  My impression is that they are almost completely hands-off on content save for a few guidelines.  This site is community driven.  If an admin is reducing your rights, choose to ignore your triggers and stay positive.  I have seen you go on the attack and it truly looks like a strange case of jekyll and hyde.  

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4 minutes ago, jross said:

Multiple members requested this information.  You are the first to request it to stop.  I plan to finish out the 125lb and 133lb predictions and then gauge interest from there.  To make it more interesting, I was thinking that maybe @Perry or @VakAttack could team up on the 141lb bracket.  I'll post the predicted outcomes and they can provide the story lines.

 

The hard part was done yesterday morning.  It took me a couple hours to write software to help simply this.  I literally copy the bracket names from the NCAA website and paste it into a text file in one action.  Then I run an automated program that gets the wrestlestat predictions and outputs the exact text that I paste into the comments.  The hardest part is the self-discipline to sit on the results long enough to give time for consumption and chatter.

someone with your skill set should create a new wrestling forum, one where you can gauge results as you do, then report the results back to the posters who signed up. I'm referring to the thread you created where you extracted out data from our participation. I forgot what you called it but you know what I'm talking about.  Telling us off the bat what is and isnt acceptable in the new forum(politics, religeon, cheap shots, etc) and where we need improvement as it relates to creating new threads and communicating with one another would benefit greatly. I firmly believe we do not bring in new posters because the long timers do not accept it. 

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2 minutes ago, Marcus Cisero said:

someone with your skill set should create a new wrestling forum, one where you can gauge results as you do, then report the results back to the posters who signed up. I'm referring to the thread you created where you extracted out data from our participation. I forgot what you called it but you know what I'm talking about.  Telling us off the bat what is and isnt acceptable in the new forum(politics, religeon, cheap shots, etc) and where we need improvement as it relates to creating new threads and communicating with one another would benefit greatly. I firmly believe we do not bring in new posters because the long timers do not accept it. 

I am a recent convert to Reddit and fan of reddit.  Content can be voted up and down.  Downvoted content can lead to it automatically being hidden.  To many downvotes on the same member content will lead to that member automatically becoming shadowbanned.  It helps reduce trolling but it does not stop it.  Members create v2, v3, v17 and keep on trolling.  The moderator responsibilities are not that much different than it must be on this forum.  Similar to reddit, this forum has the ability to pin conversations.  Doing so is helpful to convey guidelines like @WasteManagement recently did on this forum. 

IMO, this community has a chicken and egg dilemma.  The knowledgeable college and international contributors are on this forum.  The wrestling reddit needs subreddits for college, international, high school, youth, training, celebration, grade me, and so on.   Wrestling needs someone to take on the subreddit moderator responsibilities and we need to influence old timers to contribute content.  Old timers are the salt of the earth.  People want to be where they are.  If no one does anything, it will take another decade++ for the JBs, Taylors, Dakes, etc. to become coaches, etc. and contribute on now-modern technology.  Wrestlers will eventually move their discussion to reddit by the time it is also an old dog and there is some other next best technology for us to what if about.

I cannot know but it seems like action may have been taken against you by moderators.  You might be interested in reading moderator behaviors.  The bottom of this web page informs us that it is powered by the Invision Community.  It is possible that no human moderator is actually doing anything to you.  To help handle moderation demands, one can make use of an automatic moderation feature, which performs actions when an item of content is reported by a user of the community.  Read more here if you like.

Let us please stop discussing how this forum is run in this particular topic.  Thanks in advance.

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23 minutes ago, jross said:

What has led you to believe there are 20-30 in charge?  So far I am aware of two admins.  Being a site admin and/or moderator is a thankless job.  My impression is that they are almost completely hands-off on content save for a few guidelines.  This site is community driven.  If an admin is reducing your rights, choose to ignore your triggers and stay positive.  I have seen you go on the attack and it truly looks like a strange case of jekyll and hyde.  

I had problems with my account. Some features were removed and it happened twice. Efforts to contact via email led to a zero response. Where were the mods? Why did choose to not help? They could have at least told me why. You think that was right?

Secondly, the 20-30 I’m referring to are the posters who choose to interact with another while ignoring and belittling those they deem have little to no value. 

As far as your Jekyll and Hyde analogy, I’m a people person and people like me who made a successful living from interacting with all walks of life have developed many people-skills, skills individuals like you in the boring monotone IT world could never relate to. I know IT people from the company I worked for and you were the ones who saved us when our computers acted up while on the road. You guys have the patience of a saint but man, you’re ability to have a conversation and interact socially are dismal at best. There’s a few of you like that here, one in particular who is a real turn-off. So of course a one dimensional guy like you can not relate to someone capable of extracting the best out of people while being prepared to go toe to toe with individuals demonstrating hate for my country and it leaders and hate for those of us who are believers. You’re not equipped for that. Look I initially came into this forum optimistic and looking forward to learning from those who know a lot more about wrestling than me. As soon as I started creating subject matter of my own is when the attacks began on me personally. As someone who doesn’t lie down to bully’s, I fire right back. Lately it’s become an almost daily thing which is why I could care less whether they let me stay or go.

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3 minutes ago, jross said:

I am a recent convert to Reddit and fan of reddit.  Content can be voted up and down.  Downvoted content can lead to it automatically being hidden.  To many downvotes on the same member content will lead to that member automatically becoming shadowbanned.  It helps reduce trolling but it does not stop it.  Members create v2, v3, v17 and keep on trolling.  The moderator responsibilities are not that much different than it must be on this forum.  Similar to reddit, this forum has the ability to pin conversations.  Doing so is helpful to convey guidelines like @WasteManagement recently did on this forum. 

IMO, this community has a chicken and egg dilemma.  The knowledgeable college and international contributors are on this forum.  The wrestling reddit needs subreddits for college, international, high school, youth, training, celebration, grade me, and so on.   Wrestling needs someone to take on the subreddit moderator responsibilities and we need to influence old timers to contribute content.  Old timers are the salt of the earth.  People want to be where they are.  If no one does anything, it will take another decade++ for the JBs, Taylors, Dakes, etc. to become coaches, etc. and contribute on now-modern technology.  Wrestlers will eventually move their discussion to reddit by the time it is also an old dog and there is some other next best technology for us to what if about.

I cannot know but it seems like action may have been taken against you by moderators.  You might be interested in reading moderator behaviors.  The bottom of this web page informs us that it is powered by the Invision Community.  It is possible that no human moderator is actually doing anything to you.  To help handle moderation demands, one can make use of an automatic moderation feature, which performs actions when an item of content is reported by a user of the community.  Read more here if you like.

Let us please stop discussing how this forum is run in this particular topic.  Thanks in advance.

Let us please stop discussing how this forum is run in this particular topic.  Thanks in advance.

Sorry - I just read that after sending my last response. I agree - you wont hear from me again.

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One of the four horseman goes down.  Which one will it be?

 

Championship Round 2 - Quarter Finals

(1) Sebastian Rivera (NW) 13-2 vs (8) Montorie Bridges (WYO) 32-6
Winner: Sebastian Rivera over Montorie Bridges 7 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44799/rivera-sebastian/44844/bridges-montorie

(5) Roman Bravo-Young (PSU) 19-2 vs (4) Micky Phillippi (PITT) 25-1
Winner: Micky Phillippi over Roman Bravo-Young 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49665/bravo-young-roman/45230/phillippi-micky

(3) Chaz Tucker (COR) 31-0 vs (6) Austin DeSanto (IOWA) 17-4
Winner: Austin DeSanto over Chaz Tucker 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39771/tucker-chaz/49117/desanto-austin

(10) Sammy Alvarez (RUT) 26-10 vs (2) Seth Gross (WISC) 27-2
Winner: Seth Gross over Sammy Alvarez 7 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/56763/alvarez-sammy/19949/gross-seth

 

 

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Wrestlebacks Round 2

(31) Drew Marten (CMU) 21-13 vs (17) Taylor LaMont (UVU) 17-7
Winner: Taylor LaMont over Drew Marten 8 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49077/marten-drew/44777/lamont-taylor

(23) Jamie Hernandez (UNC) 16-10 vs (9) Noah Gonser (CAMP) 30-5
Winner: Noah Gonser over Jamie Hernandez 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49213/hernandez-jamie/40087/gonser-noah

(12) Devan Turner (ORST) 26-9 vs (27) Jarrett Trombley (NCST) 20-9 Upset Alert
Winner: Jarrett Trombley over Devan Turner 6 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/45397/turner-devan/50807/trombley-jarrett

(20) Louie Hayes (UVA) 21-11 vs (19) Allan Hart (MIZZ) 20-9
Winner: Allan Hart over Louie Hayes 7 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44641/hayes-louie/49193/hart-allan

(14) Ridge Lovett (NEB) 17-8 vs (29) Codi Russell (APP) 26-10
Winner: Ridge Lovett over Codi Russell 11 - 3 MD
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/57520/lovett-ridge/51113/russell-codi

(11) Cameron Sykora (NDSU) 17-4 vs (28) Collin Gerardi (VT) 14-11
Winner: Cameron Sykora over Collin Gerardi 9 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39757/sykora-cameron/51286/gerardi-collin

(7) Travis Piotrowski (ILL) 26-4 vs (24) Todd Small (ISU) 18-12
Winner: Travis Piotrowski over Todd Small 6 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44646/piotrowski-travis/45992/small-todd

(15) Mosha Schwartz (UNCO) 23-10 vs (16) Anthony Madrigal (OU) 21-9
Winner: Mosha Schwartz over Anthony Madrigal 7 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/55841/schwartz-mosha/50633/madrigal-anthony

 

Wrestlebacks Round 3

(17) Taylor LaMont (UVU) 17-7 vs (9) Noah Gonser (CAMP) 30-5 Upset Alert
Winner: Taylor LaMont over Noah Gonser 6 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44777/lamont-taylor/40087/gonser-noah

(27) Jarrett Trombley (NCST) 20-9 vs (19) Allan Hart (MIZZ) 20-9 Upset Alert
Winner: Jarrett Trombley over Allan Hart 7 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/50807/trombley-jarrett/49193/hart-allan

(14) Ridge Lovett (NEB) 17-8 vs (11) Cameron Sykora (NDSU) 17-4 Upset Alert
Winner: Ridge Lovett over Cameron Sykora 9 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/57520/lovett-ridge/39757/sykora-cameron

(7) Travis Piotrowski (ILL) 26-4 vs (15) Mosha Schwartz (UNCO) 23-10
Winner: Travis Piotrowski over Mosha Schwartz 6 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44646/piotrowski-travis/55841/schwartz-mosha

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"I just can not even talk right now.  I found out coach Kolat was headed to the Navy just minutes before my match."

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Wrestlebacks - Bloodround

(7) Travis Piotrowski (ILL) 26-4 vs (5) Roman Bravo-Young (PSU) 19-2
Winner: Roman Bravo-Young over Travis Piotrowski 9 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44646/piotrowski-travis/49665/bravo-young-roman

(14) Ridge Lovett (NEB) 17-8 vs (8) Montorie Bridges (WYO) 32-6
Winner: Montorie Bridges over Ridge Lovett 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/57520/lovett-ridge/44844/bridges-montorie

(27) Jarrett Trombley (NCST) 20-9 vs (10) Sammy Alvarez (RUT) 26-10
Winner: Sammy Alvarez over Jarrett Trombley 8 - 3
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/50807/trombley-jarrett/56763/alvarez-sammy

(17) Taylor LaMont (UVU) 17-7 vs (3) Chaz Tucker (COR) 31-0
Winner: Chaz Tucker over Taylor LaMont 5 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44777/lamont-taylor/39771/tucker-chaz

 

Championship Round 4 - Semi Finals

 

(1) Sebastian Rivera (NW) 13-2 vs (4) Micky Phillippi (PITT) 25-1  Upset Alert
Winner: Micky Phillippi over Sebastian Rivera 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44799/rivera-sebastian/45230/phillippi-micky

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ESPN caught up with Micky and third-year coach Keith Gavin after the match.  "Micky wrestled a hard-fought match against a really good wrestler,” Gavin said. “He got the job done. Micky’s a super tough kid and I’m really proud of him.

After a scoreless opening frame, Phillippi started the second on top.  Rivera escaped in the 23rd second for a 1-0 advantage and then immediately shrugged Phillippi by to go up 3-0.  Phillippi escaped and took two shots that Rivera fought off.  In the closing seconds, Phillippi took a third shot and after a surprisingly quick scramble, Rivera came out on top.  Rivera led 5-1 through two periods. Phillippi chose bottom in the third and quickly escaped.  Phillippi scored a takedown on the edge with 30 seconds to go in the third period.  Down 5-4, Phillippi begin to cut Rivera.  Rivera started coming up slowly and Phillippi hit a surprise cradle and turned Rivera to his back.  Rivera's shoulder was far off the mat but it was clear that Phillippi managed the 2pt NF.  Phillippi held Rivera in near danger for the remainder of the way.  Phillippi won 6-5.  Wow!  What a match!

It feels really good (to get the win),” Phillippi said. “I’ve been working a lot in the room for moments like that, so it paid off. I feel good. I feel good about what happened, and I feel good about the day.  Now excuse me, I want to watch this Gross vs Desanto match."

 

(6) Austin DeSanto (IOWA) 17-4 vs (2) Seth Gross (WISC) 27-2
Winner: Seth Gross over Austin DeSanto 7 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49117/desanto-austin/19949/gross-seth

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"I am coming for the hodge" - Gross' words after defeating DeSanto.

Head coach Chris Bono told ESPN "Seth did an outstanding job in preparing for DeSanto. It was all the same except he felt a lot better going into the match. Seth was very confident in his ability and was able to pull off a win. Hats off to DeSanto, what an unbelievable match.  Thank the lord there will not be another match this year.  I am not sure my heart can handle another one."

For the second straight year, DeSanto had beaten a national finalist at Carver and for the second straight season, he will not be the national champion himself.  Last season, it was Rutgers’ Nick Suriano.   After the match, DeSanto said, “I knew what I wanted when I came here,” DeSanto said. “This energy, being in the spotlight a bit, wrestling top-ranked guys and competing at the highest level out there and in the room.  Yes I am disappointed.  I am not done here and yea, I will be back.”  On Gross, DeSanto said, “He’s lanky, funky. You have to explode right through him. He’s a competitor.  I grew in that match.  As you could probably tell from my hard clubs, Gross frustrated me when he started off when one arm behind his back.  I got the best of him twice anyhow!”  

Gross’ style is known to bait opponents into making attempts that he then counters for his own points.  DeSanto has had previous success to avoid those situations through strong, quick finishes, and cutting the corner.  DeSanto ignited the crowd with his attacks, scoring two takedowns in the first and taking ten shots overall in the match.  Gross earned an escape and scramble takedown in the first period to make it 4-3 DeSanto.  Gross secured an escape and another scramble takedown in the second period to go up 6-4.  DeSanto started down in the third period.  Gross rode DeSanto long enough to lock in riding time.  Desanto escaped to make it 6(7)-5.  Gross was able to to get in on DeSanto's legs with a two low singles and they both resulted in stalemate calls.  Gross hangs on for the 7-5 win.

 

Wrestlebacks - Round 5

(5) Roman Bravo-Young (PSU) 19-2 vs (8) Montorie Bridges (WYO) 32-6
Winner: Roman Bravo-Young over Montorie Bridges 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49665/bravo-young-roman/44844/bridges-montorie

(10) Sammy Alvarez (RUT) 26-10 vs (3) Chaz Tucker (COR) 31-0
Winner: Chaz Tucker over Sammy Alvarez 5 - 4
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/56763/alvarez-sammy/39771/tucker-chaz

 

Wrestlebacks - Round 6

(6) Austin DeSanto (IOWA) 17-4 vs (5) Roman Bravo-Young (PSU) 19-2
Winner: Roman Bravo-Young over Austin DeSanto 7 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49117/desanto-austin/49665/bravo-young-roman

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On the whistle, DeSanto hit a low single to score an early takedown.  Bravo-Young was in-motion of putting his one arm behind his back and was caught off-guard.  The two 133-pounders grappled for about 30 seconds before RBY mustered an escape and the period ended 2-1 DeSanto.  In the second period, RBY chose down and was out in 43 seconds.  RBY puts an arm behind his back and is cautioned for stalling.  RBY decides to engage DeSanto with both arms.  That was his mistake.  Desanto dumps him with a fireman's carry for 2 points.  RBY hits a standing granby and somehow ends up with a 2 pt reversal.  DeSanto escapes again before the period ends.  Score is 5-4 DeSanto.  RBY starts the third period on bottom and he is out in 17 seconds.  DeSanto shoots and RBY counterattacks with a lightning quick double to make it 7-5.  RBY drives DeSanto out of bounds.  On the restart, RBY drops down to an ankle but doesn't lock hands, and continues to not-stall before cutting DeSanto.  RBY wins 7-6.

After the match, they high-five, say "let's do it again next year," and then perform the Fortnight cradles dance.

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(3) Chaz Tucker (COR) 31-0 vs (1) Sebastian Rivera (NW) 13-2
Winner: Chaz Tucker over Sebastian Rivera 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/39771/tucker-chaz/44799/rivera-sebastian

Chaz earned the win but Sebastian looked lethargic and defeated from the start.  After the match, Sebastian shook Chaz' hand and quickly ran off the mat.  ESPN caught up with Sebastian.  

  • ESPN | Tough loss Sebastian.  Will you walk us through the match with Chaz?
    • Rivera | Chaz was the better wrestler today.  My hat is off to him.
  • ESPN | Forgive me for asking but are you willing to walk back your match with Phillippi?  You were winning handedly going into the third period.  What happened in the closing seconds?
    • Rivera | Honestly, man that match hurt.  It is déjà vu from my match with Mueller last year.  Micky came ready to wrestle.  I was expecting to wrestle RBY and was not prepared for Micky.  I was looking forward to my first match with DeSanto or a rematch with Gross in the finals.  I don't know, I was a little weary from the weight cut.  I was three pounds over weight about 90 minutes before go time and still 0.8lbs over with 15 minutes to go.  It is a jersey miracle that I was able to make weight.  Still, I thought the match was mine in the closing seconds.  I expected Micky was cutting me to try for the takedown to tie.  He surprised me.  Micky is a hammer.  I'll be back for blood next year at 141lbs.

 

Finals are scheduled for later today. 

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21 hours ago, Marcus Cisero said:

Jross – you’re a numbers guy, I get that – but to be honest with you, this stuff is boring. The stuff you recently produced from our accounts which highlighted your cherished compadres from the upper echelon while simultaneously trying to degrade those you dislike was at least somewhat interesting. Please don’t take this the wrong way but it seems like you’re putting an awful amount of time and effort into something that really appeals to only a few.

I bet if the original framers of themat had your system in place back then it could have served a more useful purpose. It could have been used in a more productive way to increase participation by encouraging camaraderie among its existing posters while converting the 1000’s of views into even more posters.  A system like this used for growth purposes would never fly today because the owners gave the reigns over to the 20-30 or so know-alls who demonstrate daily why this site is a failure.

If it bores you, don’t read it.

It is very interesting to many people, myself included.

Not all of these threads are intended to satisfy you.

Thank you jross & please continue.

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2 hours ago, Daybreak said:

In no way is Phillipi beating RBY and then Rivera. No. That’s not happening. Not even in a simulation. 

He beat Daton Fix, Ethan Lizak, and Luke Pletcher last season before beating RBY and Rivera at this NCAA tourney.  

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Your All Americans

  1. Gross, Wisconsin
  2. Phillippi, Pittsburgh
  3. Bravo-Young, Penn State
  4. Tucker, Cornell
  5. DeSanto, Iowa
  6. Rivera, Northwestern
  7. Alvarez, Rutgers
  8. Bridges, Wyoming

 

AA 7th
(8) Montorie Bridges (WYO) 32-6 vs (10) Sammy Alvarez (RUT) 26-10
Winner: Sammy Alvarez over Montorie Bridges 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44844/bridges-montorie/56763/alvarez-sammy

 

AA 5th
(1) Sebastian Rivera (NW) 13-2 vs (6) Austin DeSanto (IOWA) 17-4
Winner: Austin DeSanto over Sebastian Rivera 7 - 6
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/44799/rivera-sebastian/49117/desanto-austin

@Perry was matside to call the match. (taken with liberty from Perry's topic)

This is the first college meeting between these two and the fans are split 50/50 the winner.  The ref spends a little extra time to tell the guys to keep it clean and stop when he blows the whistle. The comments are clearly directed towards DeSanto who has been under scrutiny for his actions since round 2.  The ref blows the whistle and we are underway!  Did I mention that the head official for this match is Angel Rivera?  Because he is, and the Hawkeye faithful are already furious about it.

DeSanto expected Rivera to go to the arm behind the back technique that everyone has employed against him so far to slow down his pace but Rivera says F that and immediately comes right side collar tie and snaps DeSanto down immediately. DeSanto is a little stunned and overreacts, giving Rivera the chance to get in on a quick single leg. Austin sprawls out and tries to get to his whizzer but Rivera stands straight up with the single leg and kicks out DeSanto's post leg to secure an early takedown and a 2-0 lead.  DeSanto regains his composure quickly and is able to get away after 25 seconds of riding time for Rivera.  Both guys go back to hand fighting for inside position and are working hard snaps to try to get the other guy out of his stance, not much happening though DeSanto is able to get in on his first real deep attempt with about 30 seconds left.  Rivera feeds him hips and ultimately is able to grab onto DeSanto's leg and it is clear that Austin is okay with a PD or stalemate call coming in to reset them.  First period ends 2-1 in favor of Rivera.

Choice for the second goes to Rivera and he defers to DeSanto.  Down it is, and ADS gets set.  Rivera goes to cover the left side and ADS jumps the whistle, that is the first caution against him.  DeSanto shakes it off and gets set again, this time real low with his elbows almost touching his knees and his forearms just hovering over the mat.  Rivera looks at the ref as if to question the position, but he says to cover and Rivera does.  Immediate claw ride from Rivera on the whistle as Austin is slowly trying to build.  He starts to get to one leg but Rivera does a nice job of chopping his post arm and drives him forward back to the mat.  Rivera goes right back to the claw ride/thigh spike position but isn't doing much with it.  Both guys clam up with no change in position and the ref blows the whistle to stop them.  STALLING ON RIVERA!  That is his first of the match, but against a high pace guy like DeSanto that is not the call that he wanted.  Lots of booing on the call and the NW corner is letting the ref have it a little bit.  About a minute left to go and DeSanto gets set again on bottom and gets to his feet right on the whistle.  Rivera tries holding on for a few seconds but doesn't want to risk getting hit again and lets DeSanto go.  2 to 2 with 1:30 of riding time in favor of Rivera.  ADS gets in on one last shot with about 30 seconds left but Rivera is able to get to his knee and ADS clams up again waiting for the stalemate/end of the period.

Rivera picks down, and Howe is telling him to get up right away and try to preserve the riding time.  Rivera seems to understands and gets set.  Immediate sit out from Rivera on the whistle and he is blocking off as ADS tries to get under both arms to suck Rivera back into a better position for him.  Both guys end up driving into each other which brings them both up to their feet.  ADS hits a nice lift and dumps Rivera back down but out of bounds.  The ref blows the whistle and Rivera gives DeSanto a slight shove as he starts trying to stand up.  Austin loses control for a second and ended up shoving Rivera back down to the mat.  Whistle is blown again and the officials get between the wrestlers and break them apart.  The head ref stands up and calls DeSanto for the shove and awards a point to Rivera making the score 3-2. 

Brands loses it and is screaming at the officials that Rivera instigated the situation and should be the one called.  The side official signals to Angel Rivera that he wants to have a conversation after the call is made but before they can get close enough to speak Brands spikes his challenge brick into the mat which then ricochets off into Rivera's back.  Both officials look over at Tom and silently judge his decorum.  Angel has the other Rivera and DeSanto go to their corners and asks Brands to clarify what his challenge is.  Tom already realizes he should not have used their last challenge on this call but states that ADS reacted to the initial shove by Rivera and that they should also receive a penalty point.  Angel nods his head and walks to the review booth but doesn't spend much time there.  He goes back to the center and says the call on the mat will stand, Rivera is up 3-2 and will restart on bottom.  For a brief moment Angel and the side official make eye contact and smirk at one another, knowing full well they would have given ADS a point as well if Brands didn't lose his cool and throw his temper tantrum.

The action begins again and Rivera goes back to the same sit out position, but this time he has Austin's hand trapped.  After a few seconds Rivera is able to secure the escape, but not before the riding time was reduced to 1:11.  They are right at the boundary line when Rivera faces back in and Austin shoots him off the mat.  Action is the call and both guys are called back to the center, 1:20 to go in the match, 4-2 Rivera.  20 seconds go by without much action and Brands is telling DeSanto to start going for it now.  Austin is finally able to get to his tie for his fireman's carry and Rivera does not like really feeling this for the first time. DeSanto is driving in hard and Rivera is doing everything he can to try and circle but it isn't enough.  DeSanto dumps him for 2 and 2 on the edge to make it 6-4 DeSanto.  DeSanto ticks off another 10 seconds of riding time before Rivera gets back to his feet.   6-5 DeSanto but Rivera has a potential riding time point.

DeSanto "tries" hitting a shot as they are both already oob and the whistle is blown, stalling red. NO, it's stalling on Green!  Angel Rivera says that DeSanto was pushing Rivera out of bounds and says he is the one who was stalling.  The Iowa faithful lose it, and shower US Bank Stadium with boos.  Brands is beside himself and Morningstar looks a little dazed, but the call is the call and both guys are told to go to the center with 0:25 to go.  DeSanto shoots right away, but it's ahead of the whistle and he is given his second caution. The restart happens and DeSanto is going forward right away, snapping and faking to get Rivera going. Seabass does a good job staying in position and circles backwards giving up ground. DeSanto drives him out of bounds with :15 left on the clock and Angel dings Rivera for his second stall call, score is now 7-5 DeSanto.  With not much time remaining DeSanto goes for a fireman's that is not there and then sinks to an ankle.  Time runs out before DeSanto can be called for stalling.  Rivera gets the riding time point but it doesn't matter.  DeSanto will take the match 7 to 6. The Hawkeye faithful are satisfied and take to the Rivals forum to praise one another while filing an official petition to ensure Angel Rivera makes the official's roster for the 2020/2021 season.

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AA 3rd
(5) Roman Bravo-Young (PSU) 19-2 vs (3) Chaz Tucker (COR) 31-0
Winner: Roman Bravo-Young over Chaz Tucker 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/49665/bravo-young-roman/39771/tucker-chaz

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Champion
(4) Micky Phillippi (PITT) 25-1 vs (2) Seth Gross (WISC) 27-2
Winner: Seth Gross over Micky Phillippi 6 - 5
    https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/45230/phillippi-micky/19949/gross-seth

Seth Gross was an NCAA finalist in 2017 and 2018, losing to Iowa's Cory Clark in 2017 and defeating Micic in the finals in 2018. He ended up redshirting in 2019 while dealing with a shoulder injury, but came back to try and reclaim his throne this year. 

George Phillippi made his varsity debut at Derry Area High School in 2012 as a 113-pound freshman and won WPIAL and PIAA titles. He went on to win three more WPIAL titles and two more PIAA crowns before moving on to the University of Virginia.  There, George changed his name to Micky, a nickname he has had since he was a child.  After a college transfer, Pitt's Micky Phillippi narrowly missed the podium last year (lost in the Round of 12), but he is talented wrestler that recorded wins over All Americans Ethan Lizak, Luke Pletcher, Tariq Wilson, and National Champion Daton Fix.  He has his doubters after this season's loss to Alvarez but turned heads with impressive showings against RBY and Rivera.

1st Period: Micky is in attack mode immediately.  He hits a beautiful single, gets in deep, and knocks Gross to a hip.  Gross recovers, gets his free leg extended, and belly whizzers Micky to get some space.  The scrambling eventually stalls and the ref returns them to their feet.  Micky shoots again and Gross catches his arm and secures the two-on-one "Russian" tie.  He snakes his inside leg between Micky's and drives his arm to the mat.  Gross covers Micky's back and just like that, he is up 2-0.  Gross breaks Micky down and secures the far wrist.  He is trying to get his hips in position to tilt Micky, Micky isn't having it, oh but there Gross starts to tilt him over.  Micky somehow breaks Gross' grip on the roll, hip heists, and catches Gross in danger for 2pt reversal and 2pt near fall.  Micky slows his pace.  He is riding parallel here and alternating between sitting on the ankle and the spiral ride.  Ref calls Gross for stalling.  Not sure about these college rules.  Looked like Micky was stalling.  Short time left on restart.  Gross gets wrist control and he's on his feet and he squares to Micky as they go out of bounds in front of the Pittsburgh coach.  Did he get an escape?  The refs are talking.  Yes he got the escape!  No challenge.  The period ends with Micky leading 4-3 and having a 36 second riding time advantage. 

Who could believe that Micky would be this close to a national championship?  What a fun opening period!  But Gross is experienced.  Look for him to stay poised and to keep scoring.

2nd Period: Gross starts on bottom and is out in 27 seconds.  4-4 tie score.  Micky gets in on another single, but potentially dangerous is called as Gross dove underneath and tangled up the legs of Micky.  Now back on their feet, on the whistle, Gross takes what looks like a poorly setup and a bit dive-y shot.  Even without the perfect setup, he gets his long arms on Micky's legs and clamps down.  Both wrestlers are now looking at the ref and they get a stalemate.  Back on their feet, there is a lot of hand fighting going on.  Not sure what Micky is thinking here as everyone knows this is Gross' wheelhouse.  Gross is working collar ties and wrist control.  He gets the two-one-one again and this time Micky clears it.  30 seconds left.  There it is!  Gross throws Micky by and now leads 6-4.  Gross rides out the period and cuts Micky's riding time down to 28 seconds.

That period was all Gross.  You can see on his face that he wants that hodge trophy.  This is a cut throat weight.  Many AA caliber wrestlers are not AA this year.  Still, with Gross' earlier season losses, I don't believe he can win the hodge even if he manages a pin here.  He needs to win and he needs hammers in other weight classes to lose.  Spencer Lee was dominating but he might not have wrestled enough matches.  We'll see what happens but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.  The action resumes.

3rd Period: Micky chooses down.  Micky is getting to his feet and Gross is doing an excellent job of holding him down.  Gross has the cross wrist again and switches to a cradle as Micky starts to stand up.  Micky powers up to his feet and Gross kicks him out.  Gross is winning 6-5 and riding time is not a factory.  Micky attempts a sweep single and Gross once again dives under the legs of Micky and potentially dangerous is called. Pitt will challenge looking for a takedown, but the call is confirmed, no takedown. Gross is backing up --- he better hope he doesn't get called for stalling.  Gross with the collar tie.  Gross drops to a leg but doesn't look like he is trying hard to finish.  Time is getting short.  Now Micky gets in on another head inside single.  He is trying to come out the back door and... another potentially danger is called.  5 seconds left, Micky takes a sloppy shot and Gross dances away to victory.  What a match! 6-5 Gross wins.

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I know he has been here before but you could see there was a little different pep in his step and kind of like, ‘Leave me alone. I’m ready to go.'  It is cool to see him continue his journey to become an Olympic Champion  ,'” head coach Chris Bono said.

It’s just amazing to go out there and make it to the finals again and to get it done again.  My ultimate goal is the be an Olympic champ.  I cannot wait to get back into freestyle, to win the Olympic trials, and then prove I'm the best in the world.” Gross said.

Time to train like rocky!

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