Jim L 268 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, nhs67 said: Please re-read the end of the first part of which you just quoted... My bad.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,128 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 https://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/PortalPost.jsp?postId=779540135 Brands gave an interview. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 361 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 So I listened to the Brands/Bader interview. Terry clearly stated that the HWC isn’t short of cash, but I don’t think that he addressed if funding for the girls program was being cut, but he did repeatedly say that the girls are welcome to stay as long as they want and in fact where trying to recruit another gal to the HWC. So I am not sure what is going on, it could just be that since Mark Perry is their coach it just may be that they’re just following their coach to his new job. But that leads to the question why is Perry leaving in the first place. I think there’s something else going on, but Terry did say that they are looking for a replacement for Perry, so I guess we’ll see. As far as Gilman is concerned Terry said that Gilman’s GF is from PA., and she wants to go back home, and Gilman is just going with her. Now maybe that’s all there is to all of this, or maybe it has to do with money, and maybe it has something to do with Spencer Lee. But as I write this I have to wonder if the cancelled season has something to do with all of this, is the Covid -19 impacting the financial picture for the HWC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,128 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 So I listened to the Brands/Bader interview. Terry clearly stated that the HWC isn’t short of cash, but I don’t think that he addressed if funding for the girls program was being cut, but he did repeatedly say that the girls are welcome to stay as long as they want and in fact where trying to recruit another gal to the HWC. So I am not sure what is going on, it could just be that since Mark Perry is their coach it just may be that they’re just following their coach to his new job. But that leads to the question why is Perry leaving in the first place. I think there’s something else going on, but Terry did say that they are looking for a replacement for Perry, so I guess we’ll see. As far as Gilman is concerned Terry said that Gilman’s GF is from PA., and she wants to go back home, and Gilman is just going with her. Now maybe that’s all there is to all of this, or maybe it has to do with money, and maybe it has something to do with Spencer Lee. But as I write this I have to wonder if the cancelled season has something to do with all of this, is the Covid -19 impacting the financial picture for the HWC. In Tom's interview (posted above) he says there's no funding issue for female wrestlers.Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,639 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 I hope funding is not the issue... I hope the girls all stay at HWC... but, smoke... fire... all that jazz Tom is going to put the absolute best spin on what’s going on as he should... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 361 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Well there’s an article on track Wrestling with Tom Brands by Andy Hamilton and Tom sounds very upbeat and positive, (if you can be positive about losing quality people), but it sounded like he was happy for Perry and Gilman getting to move on to new opportunities. So who knows, maybe it just a coincidence. Edited April 11, 2020 by de4856 Spelling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,485 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 Not at all saying this is going to happen, but what a statement NLWC could potentially make in ‘21..... Gilman beats Lee and goes on to medal Zain keeps his spot DT wins gold Snyder wins gold. Two, possibly three of those things the majority of people around the world believe are not going to happen. But you take each one individually...far from impossible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 282 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Lurker said: Not at all saying this is going to happen, but what a statement NLWC could potentially make in ‘21..... Gilman beats Lee and goes on to medal Zain keeps his spot DT wins gold Snyder wins gold. Two, possibly three of those things the majority of people around the world believe are not going to happen. But you take each one individually...far from impossible. Lmao good luck to Gilman. Gilman likely won’t make it to Lee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,485 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mokoma said: Lmao good luck to Gilman. Gilman likely won’t make it to Lee. We know....we know.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Administrator 22 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 Thomas Gilman Speaking about his move to NLWC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,639 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 “Perry... Perry... Perry” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogalthorpe Haywood 346 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 Not a single mention of whether Spencer Lee played any role in the move Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 282 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ogalthorpe Haywood said: Not a single mention of whether Spencer Lee played any role in the move He likely wouldn’t admit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogalthorpe Haywood 346 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mokoma said: He likely wouldn’t admit. Of course not, but it’s poor journalism to not ask an obvious question.. 1 NJDan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 671 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ogalthorpe Haywood said: Of course not, but it’s poor journalism to not ask an obvious question.. Wrestling journalists are generally poor. Some aspire to mediocrity, but that's about it. 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,639 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mokoma said: He likely wouldn’t admit. keep fitting everything to your narrative... you are nothing if not consistent... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,639 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ogalthorpe Haywood said: Of course not, but it’s poor journalism to not ask an obvious question.. that wasn't some hard hitting investigative piece of journalism... to compare it to woodward and bernstein is silly... it was an opportunity for Gilman to have a platform... nothing more or less... he stated specifically he was not going to say anything negative about HWC or anyone involved... trying to get combative with him over that would have been counterproductive and ridiculous to boot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 282 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, LJB said: keep fitting everything to your narrative... you are nothing if not consistent... Nor does he need to admit, I know what happens. It’s not close between them, and it’s doubtful Cael and company can close the gap in 1 year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,639 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mokoma said: Nor does he need to admit, I know what happens. It’s not close between them, and it’s doubtful Cael and company can close the gap in 1 year. oh... you KNOOOOOOOW what happens? the northern star you are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogalthorpe Haywood 346 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Mokoma said: Nor does he need to admit, I know what happens. It’s not close between them, and it’s doubtful Cael and company can close the gap in 1 year. Let’s slow down a bit with handing Lee the spot. I think he lost the last time he wrestled Fix. Lee wrestled one tournament in the last few years, he was dominant but he didn’t beat any real threats to the team imo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogalthorpe Haywood 346 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, LJB said: that wasn't some hard hitting investigative piece of journalism... to compare it to woodward and bernstein is silly... it was an opportunity for Gilman to have a platform... nothing more or less... he stated specifically he was not going to say anything negative about HWC or anyone involved... trying to get combative with him over that would have been counterproductive and ridiculous to boot... It doesn’t need to be negative, not wanting another Dennis Ramos situation is being proactive. It’s happened plenty around the country, Zain and Molinaro had a similar situation. All things equal the team should throw their support the guy still in college. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,639 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 clearly you haven't kept up with mook's shtick... LEE WILL TECH EVERYONE ON THE PLANET IN UNDER A MINUTE UNLESS HE DOESN'T WANT TO TECH THEM THAT QUICK!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,639 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Ogalthorpe Haywood said: It doesn’t need to be negative, not wanting another Dennis Ramos situation is being proactive. It’s happened plenty around the country, Zain and Molinaro had a similar situation. All things equal the team should throw their support the guy still in college. i don't think there is any question TnT are more focused on Lee and they absolutely should be... not only is he top 3 on a bad on the senior ladder, but, he is still in college and that is where their paychecks come from... Gilman has this last go around and that will be it for his truly competitive years... he will not be around (that should be read as competitive) for 2024... Gilman understands this... he is way smarter than most... that's why Perry leaving is the bigger deal... and you can clearly see it that interview... if he was running from Lee like the mooks think, he would have done it at the very latest last summer when it was obvious Lee was going to wrestle senior matches and more specifically after losing to fix at the trials... but he wasn't and isn't worried about Lee... he is only worried about himself... and he definitely has improved this last year working with perry... was it enough to beat Lee at the trials? we will never know, but, i bet it would have been very competitive regardless... my expectation is for him to fall further behind Lee at while he is at NLWC... and i hate to see that, but, i am glad he will be making a good paycheck and perhaps that helps him set up some things for his coaching career... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 282 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, LJB said: oh... you KNOOOOOOOW what happens? the northern star you are... I mean, I know people who have seen it, so yeah, I know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,639 Report post Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Mokoma said: I mean, I know people who have seen it, so yeah, I know. no one has seen it within a time frame that matters... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
