jerseywrestling 88 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 NCAA DI All-Decade Team http://www.jerseywrestling.com/news.php?story=NCAA DI All-Decade Team Dake, Stieber, Nickal, Nolf, and Snyder lead the pack! Check out the top ten DI wrestlers from the past ten years ranked by NCAA medals! Rank - Wrestler - Team - Score - Medals #1 - Kyle Dake - Cornell - 64 - 1,1,1,1 #1 - Logan Stieber - Ohio State - 64 - 1,1,1,1 #3 - Bo Nickal - Penn State - 60 - 2,1,1,1 #3 - Jason Nolf - Penn State - 60 - 2,1,1,1 #3 - Kyle Snyder - Ohio State - 60 - 2,1,1,1 #6 - Alex Dieringer - Oklahoma State - 58 - 3,1,1,1 #6 - Ed Ruth - Penn State - 58 - 3,1,1,1 #8 - David Taylor - Penn State - 56 - 2,1,2,1 #8 - Isaiah Martinez - Illinois - 56 - 1,1,2,2 #10 - J'den Cox - Missouri - 55 - 1,5,1,1 #10 - Zain Retherford - Penn State - 55 - 5,1,1,1 There have been 170 wrestlers who made it to at least one NCAA final since 2010. http://www.jerseywrestling.com/top_wrestlers_by_ncaa_medals.php?start_year=2010&end_year=2019 === Like and follow us on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/jerseywrestling/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 902 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 I would prefer there to be one at each weight. This team here loses a dual to 2018 Penn State. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bearcat09 3 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 Can you pick their weights? I don't see how they lose any duals 125 - FFT 133- Steiber 141- Dake 149- Zain 157 - Dieringer 165- Taylor 174 - Ruth 184 -Bo 197 - J'Den 285 - Snyder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 269 Report post Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 3:58 PM, nhs67 said: I would prefer there to be one at each weight. This team here loses a dual to 2018 Penn State. How do you figure? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu1979 309 Report post Posted April 18, 2020 For one in each weight I would go 125 - Matt McD 133 - C Clark 141 - L Sieiber 149 Zain 157 - Nolf 165 - Dake 174 - C Perry 184 -E Ruth 197 - Bo N/ J'Den Cox hvywt - K Snyder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,576 Report post Posted April 18, 2020 125 Robles 133 Oliver 141 Streebler 149 ZainTrain 157 Kyle Dake 165 JB 174 Ed Ruth 184 Bo Nickal 197 J'den Cox 285 Kyle Snyder 1 madcat11 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 403 Report post Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 2:58 PM, nhs67 said: I would prefer there to be one at each weight. This team here loses a dual to 2018 Penn State. wow i would love to see the fantasy break down on that. even taylor doesn't need a fantasy win in this matchup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,576 Report post Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 1:58 PM, nhs67 said: I would prefer there to be one at each weight. This team here loses a dual to 2018 Penn State. Penn State had a good decade. 1 fadzaev2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 317 Report post Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/15/2020 at 9:33 AM, Bearcat09 said: Can you pick their weights? I don't see how they lose any duals 125 - FFT 133- Steiber 141- Dake 149- Zain 157 - Dieringer 165- Taylor 174 - Ruth 184 -Bo 197 - J'Den 285 - Snyder 125....FFT? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 902 Report post Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/15/2020 at 9:33 AM, Bearcat09 said: Can you pick their weights? I don't see how they lose any duals 125 - FFT 133- Steiber 141- Dake 149- Zain 157 - Dieringer 165- Taylor 174 - Ruth 184 -Bo 197 - J'Den 285 - Snyder 133 Steiber was 32 points not 64. 141 Dake was 16 points. Etc. Every version listed in OP was senior. 1 hour ago, GockeS said: wow i would love to see the fantasy break down on that. even taylor doesn't need a fantasy win in this matchup 3 hours ago, Mokoma said: How do you figure? With each listed being the senior version: 125 and 133 are both 6 points for 2018 Pwnn State. 125-NONE 133-NONE 141-Steiber 149-Retherford 157-Nolf 165-Dake, Dieringer, Martinez, Taylor 174-(Bump someone) 184-Ruth 197-Cox, Nickal 285-Snyder 2018 Penn State: 125-Kuhn 133-Keener 141-Lee 149-Retherford 157-Nolf 165-Joseph 174-Hall 184-Nickal 197-Rasheed 285-Nevills Matchup: 125-PSU Forfeit PSU 6-0 133-PSU Forfeit PSU 12-0 141-Steiber Major PSU 12-7 149-Reth VS Reth? SKIP 157-Sr Nolf over Jr Nolf Dec PSU 12-7 165-Dake Dec PSU 12-10 174-Hall Dec(Yep) PSU 15-10 184-Nickal Decision(Yep) PSU 18-10 197-Cox Dec PSU 18-13 285-Snyder Maj PSU 18-17 It literally comes down to same version of Reth VS Reth. I maintain that soph hall defeats any version of the 165lbers bumping up as well as Jr Nickal beating Sr Ruth. These aren't unreasonable. This said, if you can pick and choose the weights such as earlier in careers then the All Star team easily wins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,421 Report post Posted April 18, 2020 I take Dieringer over Hall all day. Senior Dieringer might actually have been bigger and he was definitely a better wrestler. Let him weigh in at 174 and I think he wins a close but never in doubt match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerseywrestling 88 Report post Posted September 19, 2020 #3 Nickal will square off against #6 Dieringer in tonight's NLWC freestyle event available exclusively on Rokfin! https://rokfin.com/article/1756/Nittany-Lion-Wrestling-Events?affiliate_id=23520 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMardigain 1,243 Report post Posted September 20, 2020 Let’s get real there is no way Dake wins a fantasy match against 2018 Penn State. That’s a big point swing for Happy Valley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 111 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 On 9/20/2020 at 9:57 AM, MadMardigain said: Let’s get real there is no way Dake wins a fantasy match against 2018 Penn State. That’s a big point swing for Happy Valley. Absolutely correct. Cenzo pins Dake with those hips of his Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTC 55 Report post Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, portajohn said: Absolutely correct. Cenzo pins Dake with those hips of his Honestly would not be surprised if Sr Dake were to major Jr cenzo in a fantasy match up. Look what a true freshman Lewis did to him. As for bumping up one of the 65ers to face hall. Dake or ringer would be your best bets. Dake cause he's obviously the best out of the group but ringer I would say was probably the strongest and biggest out of the group. Edited September 21, 2020 by BTC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,826 Report post Posted September 25, 2020 I remember when somebody being a 3 time Champ was a huge deal that was rarely accomplished, but look at the last decade: 8 guys with 3 or more titles. For the experts here, why is that? Why was it rare for guys in the old days to win 3 titles and we didn't have a 4 time champ until Pat Smith in the 90's, but since then we've had 3 more 4X champs? I remember when it was rare for guys to be 4 time All Americans (even Mark Schultz didn't pull that off and he has 3 titles), nowadays it seems common and almost trivial. What's the deal? What has changed in the wrestling world in the last 50 years, other than D1 wrestling losing a crapload of programs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,488 Report post Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, TobusRex said: I remember when somebody being a 3 time Champ was a huge deal that was rarely accomplished, but look at the last decade: 8 guys with 3 or more titles. For the experts here, why is that? Why was it rare for guys in the old days to win 3 titles and we didn't have a 4 time champ until Pat Smith in the 90's, but since then we've had 3 more 4X champs? I remember when it was rare for guys to be 4 time All Americans (even Mark Schultz didn't pull that off and he has 3 titles), nowadays it seems common and almost trivial. What's the deal? What has changed in the wrestling world in the last 50 years, other than D1 wrestling losing a crapload of programs? I think a lot has to do with the onset of high level training at clubs and even many of the high schools. Kids are ready for prime time much earlier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gallison 40 Report post Posted September 26, 2020 Haven't the rules been relaxed regarding high school wrestlers competing in college open tournaments? Better competition brings quality of the high school kids up pretty dramatically. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,488 Report post Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, gallison said: Haven't the rules been relaxed regarding high school wrestlers competing in college open tournaments? Better competition brings quality of the high school kids up pretty dramatically. HS kids started entering college tournies in numbers maybe late 90s early 00s. (Kolat entered the Midlands and placed while in HS but this was rare then). It was discontinued around 2010 for several years. I believe it was the year after Marsteller was in middle school and won a match. Then it relaxed again a few years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTC 55 Report post Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, gallison said: Haven't the rules been relaxed regarding high school wrestlers competing in college open tournaments? Better competition brings quality of the high school kids up pretty dramatically. Hasn't it been the opposite? High schoolers used to be able to compete in the midlands which isn't the case anymore. Someone correct me ifnim wrong but last I heard of a high schooler in a college open was chance marstellar when he was in high school. At least I think he did, idk though. So gimp by relaxed you mean that HS kids are allowed? I thought they were barred from entering or at least had to be reviewed on a case by case basis? Edited September 27, 2020 by BTC Nvm, gimp beat me to it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,488 Report post Posted September 27, 2020 6 hours ago, BTC said: Hasn't it been the opposite? High schoolers used to be able to compete in the midlands which isn't the case anymore. Someone correct me ifnim wrong but last I heard of a high schooler in a college open was chance marstellar when he was in high school. At least I think he did, idk though. So gimp by relaxed you mean that HS kids are allowed? I thought they were barred from entering or at least had to be reviewed on a case by case basis? Not sure if the edit note refers to this but ... I remember when they disallowed HS kids around 10 years ago that it was actually going counter to the compliance manual as regards Open Events. I believe those rules were meant more for track but it didn't matter. I guess they eventually realized what they had done and reverted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTC 55 Report post Posted September 27, 2020 11 hours ago, gimpeltf said: Not sure if the edit note refers to this but ... I remember when they disallowed HS kids around 10 years ago that it was actually going counter to the compliance manual as regards Open Events. I believe those rules were meant more for track but it didn't matter. I guess they eventually realized what they had done and reverted. The edit note is referring to the first paragraph of my post. You posted your post a few seconds before mine and with better info than mine. Pretty interesting, I didnt know that applied to all scholastic sports. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,488 Report post Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, BTC said: The edit note is referring to the first paragraph of my post. You posted your post a few seconds before mine and with better info than mine. Pretty interesting, I didnt know that applied to all scholastic sports. Relevant compliance rule refers to whether being at the same meet as a HS kid might force the coaches to count it as a contact (among other issues). They can't enter invites or actual team events but open events, yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 766 Report post Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) It would be interesting to see how wrestling compares to other NCAA D1 individual sports. I know there has never been a 4x tennis champ - but that is a different beast since kids turn pro at 14. I have a feeling there may be more in wrestling than in many other individual sports or individual events such as swimming, gymnastics, etc. Edited September 27, 2020 by Idaho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim L 232 Report post Posted September 28, 2020 16 hours ago, Idaho said: It would be interesting to see how wrestling compares to other NCAA D1 individual sports. I know there has never been a 4x tennis champ - but that is a different beast since kids turn pro at 14. I have a feeling there may be more in wrestling than in many other individual sports or individual events such as swimming, gymnastics, etc. Its hard to compare sports to wrestling, where there are ten individual champs every year in wrestling there is but champ per year in and then other sports like swimming or track allow athletes to win multiple title in one year. I did find that only four athletes have won the same event 4X in a row in Men's Track and Field. Also Edward Cheserek runner from Oregon won 17 titles, despite not competing his last season due to injury Jenny Thompson won 19 NCAA titles in women's swimming for Stanford. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites