AHamilton 1,026 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 Dake is a child. 3 1 wrestlingshoe, silver, stp and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mg113 15 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, nyum said: They can both be dicks on the mat, nbd. But, in real life you should also be able to turn it off. plus Dake was all over the place in the interview arguing like a 9 yo... Dake “I don’t wanna talk about that I wanna talk about the future” *JB starts to engage* Dake “We’re not talking about now, we are talking about 2011 & 2013” JB “you literally said let’s talk about now” Dake “okay yeah let’s talk about now” I still take Dake in the fantasy matchup....but man it was hard to root for him after that. 1 silver reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyum 241 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, mg113 said: I still take Dake in the fantasy matchup....but man it was hard to root for him after that. “You’re wife asked me for tips or was that you from her phone?” classless 1 Fletcher reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle 179 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 My money is on the Olympics being cancelled outright. SARS CoV-2 isn't going away soon and we are at least a year probably more from a vaccine. Dake and Burroughs won't wrestle each other again. 1 CaliWrestler reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,475 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, spladle said: My money is on the Olympics being cancelled outright. SARS CoV-2 isn't going away soon and we are at least a year probably more from a vaccine. Dake and Burroughs won't wrestle each other again. I don’t agree with this. Latest projections have highly effective treatments that can be administered prophylactically available by late summer. Vaccine projections were 12 to 18 months last month and these continue to be pushed up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mg113 15 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, nyum said: “You’re wife asked me for tips or was that you from her phone?” classless Yeah, right? Burroughs is going to need some tissues after that one. Hopefully he can get some before the coronanutters hoard them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle 179 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Billyhoyle said: I don’t agree with this. Latest projections have highly effective treatments that can be administered prophylactically available by late summer. Vaccine projections were 12 to 18 months last month and these continue to be pushed up. I will believe it when I see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 582 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 Wow, that was great! :D Gosh, was Dake just playing the bad guy role for publicity, or was that really him? I was shocked how disrespectful he was to JB. But still very much enjoyed the interview. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moose41 16 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Billyhoyle said: I don’t agree with this. Latest projections have highly effective treatments that can be administered prophylactically available by late summer. Vaccine projections were 12 to 18 months last month and these continue to be pushed up. Do you have a source for this. I’ve seen this would be the soonest possible and that would be record time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutterbutter 13 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, LJB said: an exhibition match that was all in fun?????? say it aint so!!!!!! (even with that said, it wasn't a shoot... they had trained together years previously for a couple of days... they were not "training" together... this was known previous to the match) (furthermore, JBs "nice guy" persona was in full display that day... it still amazes me that the rubes fall for it still) LBJ, are you that cynical that you think a GOADED JB was still just playing a game? I talk **** to my TV during sporting events, but in a work meeting I can behave. It's not disingenuous, it's called being civil. You ever met a meathead who couldn't refrain from cussing even if he was accepting a medal, at his daughter's wedding, or in any setting? Same thing, and I appreciate a guy who can keep his emotions in check. You make self control sound like a bad thing? Edited April 17, 2020 by Nutterbutter 2 sisi and GockeS reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, Nutterbutter said: LBJ, are you that cynical that you think a GOADED JB was still just playing a game? I talk **** to my TV during sporting events, but in a work meeting I can behave. It's not disingenuous, it's called being civil. You ever met a meathead who couldn't refrain from cussing even if he was accepting a medal, at his daughter's wedding, or in any setting? Same thing, and I appreciate a guy who can keep his emotions in check. You make self control sound like a bad thing? you whiffed on that one... 2 maligned and Nutterbutter reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnklePicker 645 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 Dake comes across as a fake tough guy. JB says what’s up Kyle and right away Dake comes across like a punk. He may well be right, JB just may be too old, but if it comes down to a battle of mental toughness, I’ll take JB all day. 1 1 silver and wrestlingshoe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, AnklePicker said: Dake comes across as a fake tough guy. JB says what’s up Kyle and right away Dake comes across like a punk. He may well be right, JB just may be too old, but if it comes down to a battle of mental toughness, I’ll take JB all day. JB says what's up and dake gave him a head check... that's being a punk? i will agree, in the past at least, JB has proven to be as mentally tough as anyone and has time and time again pulled last second rabbits out of his hat... on the flip side of that, in the past dake has whined a little too much instead of just wrestling through it... my gut tells me that over the last couple of seasons, dake has gotten a little better control over that weakness... but, if JB is given free reign to punch dake in the face repeatedly like danny let him get away with last match, that will be tested... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,475 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, moose41 said: Do you have a source for this. I’ve seen this would be the soonest possible and that would be record time. The two key trials you should be paying attention to are the RNA vaccines (the first of which in trial is by moderna). And the mAb neutralizing antibodies, the furthest of which is being made by Regeneron. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/16/business/federal-government-pledges-up-nearly-500m-speed-modernas-coronavirus-vaccine/%3foutputType=amp Phase 2 for this mRNA vaccine is expected to start in the spring. If it appears to be efficacious, they are going ramp up production very quickly. https://www.fiercebiotech.com/research/fast-moving-regeneron-eyes-summer-clinical-trial-for-covid-19-antibody-cocktail-therapy phase 1 for this Regeneron mAb is expected in the summer, and the trial should proceed faster than the vaccine. I’ve seen estimates that there can be mass production (basically all the pharma companies will license production from Regeneron and chip in their facilities) by late summer/fall. This drug should be able to be administered prophylactically. I’m not sure the 2020/2021 NCAA wrestling season can occur with fans, but I’m more confident than not that the Olympics will be able to proceed as scheduled in the summer of 2021. An important point to know is that while Covid-19 is highly contagious and spreads rapidly due to being the product of recombination, it is relatively non mutagenic and the majority of people infected recover (at least 99% and possibly as high as 99.8 %). This, along with its similar biology to SARS/MERS means that vaccination/treatment is not nearly as challenging as other chronic viruses (HIV, HSV, etc). Edited April 17, 2020 by Billyhoyle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,995 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 8 hours ago, Billyhoyle said: Mekhi Lewis with the extra year of development might take them both out. Unlikely but not impossible. No. 1 Alwayswrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 534 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 8 hours ago, LJB said: the "quit fidgeting" line was the absolute best... made JB squirm even more... that was a classic tactic used to perfection by dake... JB is just not emotionally equipped to go against dake in this format... good thing its a wrestling match and not a pissing contest 2 Nutterbutter and Eagle26 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 534 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 7 hours ago, LJB said: i don't want him to be anything... i don't think ill of him... i also don't white wash one aspect with another... personally, the only thing i really care about one way or the other about him is his results... and they speak for themselves... but, you shouldn't kid yourself... it sure looks like you do "i just prefer the anti-hero personally... they are a more true representation of themselves... no pretenses... i value that more..." 1 wrestlingshoe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 534 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, LJB said: JB says what's up and dake gave him a head check... that's being a punk? yes, and to think that some people on here think you are smart. 2 wrestlingshoe and silver reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 534 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 it was fun to listen to. i think dake was playing. but i still think he is kind of punk. i think JB can be a bit defensive when he thinks it's his turf but to say he isn't a genuinely nice guy... get out of here. the worst thing.. i think dake might actually win this time. i hope not..but. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 “You’re wife asked me for tips or was that you from her phone?” classlessThat's not what you're making it out to be, they were talking about recovery equipment. JB was (rightfully) making fun of Dake's fake science shtick and Dake pointed out that either Burroughs directly or thru his wife asked Dake for advice on what to use for some type of recovery.Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk 1 madcat11 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 Vak, you are wasting your time... the unwashed masses have been told who their hero is and they will not be persuaded with truths... they will not scrutinize that hero... they will not hold that hero to the standards they expect of any challenger... it’s a Greek tragedy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyum 241 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, VakAttack said: That's not what you're making it out to be, they were talking about recovery equipment. JB was (rightfully) making fun of Dake's fake science shtick and Dake pointed out that either Burroughs directly or thru his wife asked Dake for advice on what to use for some type of recovery. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk I watched it, I don’t need anyone to explain it for me. I just don’t believe you should bring someone else’s wife into the discussion. Of course it would have been 1000x worse if he had been insinuating something else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyum 241 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, LJB said: Vak, you are wasting your time... the unwashed masses have been told who their hero is and they will not be persuaded with truths... they will not scrutinize that hero... they will not hold that hero to the standards they expect of any challenger... it’s a Greek tragedy... Please don’t give up hope on us. We have potential. Maybe one day we will be as cynical as you. 4 CoachWrestling, maligned, wrestlingshoe and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 528 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, LJB said: Vak, you are wasting your time... the unwashed masses have been told who their hero is and they will not be persuaded with truths... they will not scrutinize that hero... they will not hold that hero to the standards they expect of any challenger... it’s a Greek tragedy... If you have people in your life that seem nice on the outside AND live life thinking of others and building others up on the day to day--even privately maintaining respect and trying to reconcile with ones who mistreat them--it's no longer impossible to believe that those types of people exist elsewhere too. Edited April 17, 2020 by maligned 3 sisi, GockeS and wrestlingshoe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,420 Report post Posted April 17, 2020 14 hours ago, LJB said: they both talked over each other... they both flip flopped the discussion multiple times... Dake was talking over JB and interrupting him way more. Between that, the “I’m getting younger” nonsense, and the complaining about the trials setup Dake was 100% cringe. 3 Fletcher, silver and wrestlingshoe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
