Idaho 752 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, RegularStalling said: Think Santiago's flip had a lot to do with Vasquez and or a lack of opportunity. There likely won't be openings between 149-165 for sometime. And in all honesty, Santiago flipping will be a blessing in disguise. He has an alarming lack of high level attacks, and that doesn't tend to translate well. He flipped a long time before Vasquez committed to ASU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RegularStalling 18 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Idaho said: He flipped a long time before Vasquez committed to ASU. The two know each other very well and Vasquez to ASU has been speculated for months. Either way, not having him on the books for five years will be a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobraves101905 70 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 8 hours ago, RegularStalling said: Think Santiago's flip had a lot to do with Vasquez and or a lack of opportunity. There likely won't be openings between 149-165 for sometime. And in all honesty, Santiago flipping will be a blessing in disguise. He has an alarming lack of high level attacks, and that doesn't tend to translate well. In a couple years. I see Teemer at 65. Cael at 74. Munoz at 84. Vasquez at 49. Opening at 57. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 752 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 3 hours ago, gobraves101905 said: In a couple years. I see Teemer at 65. Cael at 74. Munoz at 84. Vasquez at 49. Opening at 57. That’s where Santiago could have fit in. Next year at 149 then at 157. Doesn’t matter now however. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobraves101905 70 Report post Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) Raimo says he is going 133. Interesting to see where McGee tries to slot in. Edited April 29, 2020 by gobraves101905 1 Bronco reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calot 157 Report post Posted April 29, 2020 8 hours ago, gobraves101905 said: Raimo says he is going 133. Interesting to see where McGee tries to slot in. 133 for McGee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bronco 136 Report post Posted April 29, 2020 Not that's it's scientific or anything even remotely close to that but when you match up McGee vs. Raimo on WrestleStat they project McGee to win that match 8-4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calot 157 Report post Posted April 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Bronco said: Not that's it's scientific or anything even remotely close to that but when you match up McGee vs. Raimo on WrestleStat they project McGee to win that match 8-4. McGee has the experience and Raimo speed and athleticism won't bother McGee.I think McGee will be the guy at 133 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bronco 136 Report post Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, calot said: McGee has the experience and Raimo speed and athleticism won't bother McGee.I think McGee will be the guy at 133 McGee will be the starter at 133 next season and Raimo will be the backup in case McGee is injured. They make a good pair for ASU at 133 lbs. But MAYBE Raimo moves all the way up to 141? In that video conference call he said he's been all the way up to 150 lbs. I'm not even sure he could make the cut back down to 133 lbs if that's the case. If he does it won't be easy to lose 17 lbs on that small of a frame. Regardless of whether Raimo is at 133 or 141 lbs I have to wonder who is the back-up for Brandon Courtney at 125 lbs - in the event that Courtney gets injured? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RegularStalling 18 Report post Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bronco said: McGee will be the starter at 133 next season and Raimo will be the backup in case McGee is injured. They make a good pair for ASU at 133 lbs. But MAYBE Raimo moves all the way up to 141? In that video conference call he said he's been all the way up to 150 lbs. I'm not even sure he could make the cut back down to 133 lbs if that's the case. If he does it won't be easy to lose 17 lbs on that small of a frame. Regardless of whether Raimo is at 133 or 141 lbs I have to wonder who is the back-up for Brandon Courtney at 125 lbs - in the event that Courtney gets injured? There is no doubt Raimo would make the hard cut down to 125 if Courtney sustained a season ending injury. He did imply he didn't want to make that cut again, but I'm sure he would if that was the only way he could fit in the lineup. What I really got out of this video was that there seems to be a good chance Valencia returns to 165. Munoz cutting to 165 didn't seem like it was even a thought, and with him walking at about 190 it seems entirely unrealistic. Edited April 29, 2020 by RegularStalling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 752 Report post Posted April 29, 2020 2 hours ago, RegularStalling said: There is no doubt Raimo would make the hard cut down to 125 if Courtney sustained a season ending injury. He did imply he didn't want to make that cut again, but I'm sure he would if that was the only way he could fit in the lineup. What I really got out of this video was that there seems to be a good chance Valencia returns to 165. Munoz cutting to 165 didn't seem like it was even a thought, and with him walking at about 190 it seems entirely unrealistic. Agree - Raimo would make it down if he had to....Munoz not so much. Will be interesting to see how Schultz performs. He wasn't as impressive as I thought he would be at a redshirt, but that's a small sample and a lot more work to get in before next season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites