HokieHWT 589 Report post Posted May 25, 2020 8 hours ago, 1032004 said: I mean, pretty sure the ESPN announcers proclaimed Suriano as the first champ, because it was true. Suriano is the one, and only, first RU champ as Asphalt needed a 6th, or was it 7th, yeah to win his. Anyone who takes more than 5 years, automatically gives of any accolades of being a champion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNorth 229 Report post Posted May 25, 2020 Not surprisingly, the actual wrestlers aren't as obsessed with hyperbole as much as some of the fans are - specially the dopey fans on message boards like we have here. The huge majority know they'll never be at the top of the pile. And even though many of them work as hard as they can, knowing they likely won't be in the top x%, it doesn't matter. That's not even close to the goal of wrestling. Not by a mile. You work to be the best you can possibly be, and the chips fall where they may. You shoot for the top, and you land where you land. For (2) guys on the same team to shoot for the top and both achieve the status of NCAA Champion - that is something super special. That's an achievement they share. Yes, technically, the chronology of +/- an hour is real. But it is insignificant, and irrelevant in the grand scheme. Arguing about it as petty, at best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 941 Report post Posted May 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: Not surprisingly, the actual wrestlers aren't as obsessed with hyperbole as much as some of the fans are - specially the dopey fans on message boards like we have here. The huge majority know they'll never be at the top of the pile. And even though many of them work as hard as they can, knowing they likely won't be in the top x%, it doesn't matter. That's not even close to the goal of wrestling. Not by a mile. You work to be the best you can possibly be, and the chips fall where they may. You shoot for the top, and you land where you land. For (2) guys on the same team to shoot for the top and both achieve the status of NCAA Champion - that is something super special. That's an achievement they share. Yes, technically, the chronology of +/- an hour is real. But it is insignificant, and irrelevant in the grand scheme. Arguing about it as petty, at best. Was anyone arguing about it until you? There's no argument, Suriano was the first champion. Yes, they share the status of NCAA champion, but Suriano was first. You better tell Rutgers and nj.com they're "obsessed with hyperbole": https://scarletknights.com/sports/wrestling/roster/nick-suriano/6815 The Suriano File 2019 NCAA Champion (133 Pounds) Two-time national finalist (2018-19) Two-time All-American (2018-19) First national champion and first finalist in program history https://www.nj.com/rutgers/2020/01/rutgers-unveils-banners-for-wrestling-national-champions-anthony-ashnault-nick-suriano-photos.html Ashnault, who was the first wrestler to become a four-time undefeated state champion during his time at South Plainfield, then capped his remarkable college career and undefeated senior season by downing Ohio State’s Micah Jordan in the 149-pound final to become Rutgers’ second national champion. That said, pretty sure Ashnault doesn't really care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNorth 229 Report post Posted May 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Was anyone arguing about it until you? There's no argument, Suriano was the first champion. Yes, they share the status of NCAA champion, but Suriano was first. You better tell Rutgers and nj.com they're "obsessed with hyperbole": https://scarletknights.com/sports/wrestling/roster/nick-suriano/6815 I'm not going to bicker with you. If you don't agree - then we agree to disagree. Any wrestler worth his salt doesn't give two ****s about the order of the matches on any given day. Same day, same status. Those of us who have wrestled get that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 941 Report post Posted May 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: I'm not going to bicker with you. If you don't agree - then we agree to disagree. Any wrestler worth his salt doesn't give two ****s about the order of the matches on any given day. Same day, same status. Those of us who have wrestled get that. I agree, pretty sure Ashnault doesn't care (which I said, but accidentally went inside the quote). But that's not what you said originally. You said they share "the first title." They don't. 1 wrestlingphish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 282 Report post Posted May 25, 2020 9 hours ago, HurricaneWrestling2 said: Delaware Better ask GreatWhiteNorth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rpbobcat 53 Report post Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) On 5/24/2020 at 11:06 PM, 1032004 said: Was anyone arguing about it until you? There's no argument, Suriano was the first champion. Yes, they share the status of NCAA champion, but Suriano was first. You better tell Rutgers and nj.com they're "obsessed with hyperbole": https://scarletknights.com/sports/wrestling/roster/nick-suriano/6815 To me,the fact that Suriano didn't show up the night they raised his and Ashnault's National Championship banners says a lot. You'd think, as the school's first National Champion,you'd want to be there for the honor. I know he was in Italy at the time. But,apparently ,Rutgers tried to work with him to come up with a date that worked. Edited May 26, 2020 by rpbobcat 1 Housebuye reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StallWarning 166 Report post Posted May 26, 2020 Arguing over who was the first Rutgers NCAA champ is probably the dumbest thing I've seen argued on this board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
