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People who made the Olympic team but were not expected to

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Frank Molinaro immediately comes to mind.   

Had a very low seed at trials, if I recall correctly (though I may be wrong); won the trials against high odds;  then had to qualify the weight abroad  before the Olympics began.

Finally, he was very close to winning a medal (finished 5th in a tight bronze medal match).

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Oh yes, those are good ones.  Burton was #2 at the time and Gutches had a bad back.  It was not that unexpected.  Their Trials finals was delayed to give Les a chance to strengthen up.  He needed to but didn't get there.  I didn't realize Lowney was in this category, he did phenomenal at the Olys. 

I really appreciate the input guys.  

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2 hours ago, AHamilton said:

Dan Dennis.  Jamil Kelly.

dan dennis came back from relative obscurity, but, i would not say he wasn't expected to beat ramos by the time he got there...

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6 hours ago, dmm53 said:

Frank Molinaro immediately comes to mind.   

Had a very low seed at trials, if I recall correctly (though I may be wrong); won the trials against high odds;  then had to qualify the weight abroad  before the Olympics began.

Finally, he was very close to winning a medal (finished 5th in a tight bronze medal match).

Yes Frank was 9th seed that year.  Crazy awesome run to finish 5th at Olympics!

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10 hours ago, Mokoma said:

Yes Frank was 9th seed that year.  Crazy awesome run to finish 5th at Olympics!

As was J’den Cox, who after winning the trials had to expedite getting a passport because he’d never had one before, went to Mongolia to win the qualifier, then come home from Rio with a medal before going back to class...

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I can’t even imagine a totally unexpected wrestler making our MFS Olympic team this cycle. It’ll probably happen, but the weights are so stacked with strong contenders that it’s hard to envision a Frank Molinaro/Dan Dennis type qualifier winning the spot. Maybe at 125? Idk

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23 hours ago, mspart said:

Oh yes, those are good ones.  Burton was #2 at the time and Gutches had a bad back.  It was not that unexpected.  Their Trials finals was delayed to give Les a chance to strengthen up.  He needed to but didn't get there.  I didn't realize Lowney was in this category, he did phenomenal at the Olys. 

I really appreciate the input guys.  

mspart

Lowney beat the 96 Olympic team member Gleasman, and beat multi time world team member Couture, and I think he may have also beaten Jason Loukides.  He hadn't even wrestled a senior level tournament prior to that cycle I don't think.  He did have a bronze from junior worlds though.  Him making the team was very unexpected.  

Burton maybe wasn't a big surprise, but the field at that weight was loaded. Sanderson, Van Arsdale, Brinzer, Gutches and a couple others.  

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14 hours ago, TripNSweep said:

Lowney beat the 96 Olympic team member Gleasman, and beat multi time world team member Couture, and I think he may have also beaten Jason Loukides.  He hadn't even wrestled a senior level tournament prior to that cycle I don't think.  He did have a bronze from junior worlds though.  Him making the team was very unexpected.  

Burton maybe wasn't a big surprise, but the field at that weight was loaded. Sanderson, Van Arsdale, Brinzer, Gutches and a couple others.  

Don't forget Hartung, Kading and Fullhart at 187. Burton would be a surprise there I guess with that field. Sanderson was only 19 though. 

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8 hours ago, PRyan2012 said:

Don't forget Hartung, Kading and Fullhart at 187. Burton would be a surprise there I guess with that field. Sanderson was only 19 though. 

Cael was a 2x NCAA champion by the time the 2000 trials rolled around.  Pretty sure he didn't win an NCAA title at age 17/18.  He redshirted his first year at Iowa State and he also gave Gutches a great match at the trials or the open that year.  

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1 hour ago, TripNSweep said:

Cael was a 2x NCAA champion by the time the 2000 trials rolled around.  Pretty sure he didn't win an NCAA title at age 17/18.  He redshirted his first year at Iowa State and he also gave Gutches a great match at the trials or the open that year.  

Your right he was 20 sorry. Forgot about redshirt. But pretty stacked weight at 187.5 for Burton to get through that field of Sanderson, Hartung, Fullhart, Kading, Van Arsdale, and Gutches. All those guys had better NCAA careers than Burton.

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On 5/16/2020 at 8:55 AM, Lurker said:

As was J’den Cox, who after winning the trials had to expedite getting a passport because he’d never had one before, went to Mongolia to win the qualifier, then come home from Rio with a medal before going back to class...

Wasn't Cox a double digit seed at the trials? Amazing run.

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Regarding Burton, he was our #2 guy in 1999, so I wouldn't call him completely out of it.  But I think Gutches had the upper hand when healthy.  Even not healthy, Gutches won one of the olympic trials final matches.  But Burton was right up there in US nationals and WTT trials and OTT trials. 

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7 hours ago, mspart said:

Regarding Burton, he was our #2 guy in 1999, so I wouldn't call him completely out of it.  But I think Gutches had the upper hand when healthy.  Even not healthy, Gutches won one of the olympic trials final matches.  But Burton was right up there in US nationals and WTT trials and OTT trials. 

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Burton was probably the least accomplished in that field.  I remember watching Gutches vs Sanderson, and Gutches had 2 big moves and Sanderson had like 5 takedowns, but it wasn't enough to beat Gutches.  I don't think Cael was ready physically, from what I remember Brinzer beat up on him and so did Van Arsdale.  Burton also came extremely close to winning a medal, and gave up a throw in a position his coaches were yelling at him to avoid with like 20 seconds left in a match he was winning.  

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