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I know this is harsh to say about a college kid. My point in doing so is that anything that creates a dialogue is good for our sport.

 

Taylor is a bully. Against guys he can beat, he pours it on. Watch last year's NCAA finals, against a completely overmatched opponent. Taylor was kind of a jerk, pouring it on when not necessary. But when he wrestles someone that can hang with him, he breaks time and again. I think we all knew when Dake got that escape/near reversal in the 1st that it was over. When Dake got the takedown, you could see it on his face.

 

David Taylor is a great wrestler, one of the best ever. But he is mentally weak (harsh..I Know) he can't take a hit. Dake is the opposite. When the chips are down, DAke raises his level. That's why Dake is an all-time great and Taylor isn't.

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I know this is harsh to say about a college kid. My point in doing so is that anything that creates a dialogue is good for our sport.

 

Taylor is a bully. Against guys he can beat, he pours it on. Watch last year's NCAA finals, against a completely overmatched opponent. Taylor was kind of a jerk, pouring it on when not necessary. But when he wrestles someone that can hang with him, he breaks time and again. I think we all knew when Dake got that escape/near reversal in the 1st that it was over. When Dake got the takedown, you could see it on his face.

 

David Taylor is a great wrestler, one of the best ever. But he is mentally weak (harsh..I Know) he can't take a hit. Dake is the opposite. When the chips are down, DAke raises his level. That's why Dake is an all-time great and Taylor isn't.

 

I know this is harsh to say about a poster on a forum. My point in doing so is that anything in response to dialog is good for forum business.

 

Jersey Joey is a bully. After a wrestler who is 100-3, with 3 losses to national champs (one a 4 timer) he jumps on a forum in an attempt to over match a true competitor in our sport. Jersey Joey was kind of a jerk, pouring it on when not necessary. When Taylor wins he is absent, but jumps on time and time again after a Taylor loss.

 

Jersey Joey is not a great poster, certainly not one of the best ever. His argument is mentally weak. Thats why some threads are great and this one isn't.

 

(Congrats to KD...it'll be argued who is the GOAT, but this accomplishment is one that will never be matched)

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This is wrong, he's not mentally weak. He just got beat by a better wrestler.

 

My cousin is former D2 All American but doesn't follow the sport that closely. I had to give him background on all the wrestlers and their styles/storylines for the Finals. I was watching the finals with him, and he turned to me after the first period and said "Dake is just a better wrestler, and Taylor knows it."

 

He's going to blitz the field next year (barring something weird) and become a 2 time champ, 4 time finalist with 3 losses, and 2 of those losses are in the finals, where the competition should be toughest. He's not mentally weak. He just got beat by a better wrestler.

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I posted on the Jersey Joe topic, and will post here as well. David Taylor is a great wrestler and human being who will do well in life. The notion that Taylor is not mentally tough is ridiculous.

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I'll refrain from addressing the OP because I think it's misinformed and in poor taste, but I do think Taylor got a little overexcited when he scored the first takedown. He jumped up and began celebrating as if he had just won the match. I think that may have lead to an adrenaline dump and caused Taylor to lose focus a little bit.

 

Anyway, Taylor is a great wrestler and should pick up a second title next year.

 

With that said, Dake is possibly the most mentally strong wrestler I've ever seen. You can see it both in the scuffle match and tonight. Despite his conservative style, he truly seems to believe he can score as many points as he needs, whenever he needs. The possibility of losing doesn't even creep into his head until the match is over.

 

This interview sums it up perfectly:

http://www.flowrestling.org/video/67617 ... n-Thriller

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Taylor is not mentally tough? Are you kidding me? The kid has the body of a 12 year old boy but has 3 finals appearances and 1 national title to his credit....plus he makes his opponents look like wimps 90% of the time! If Taylor hit the weights and put on some muscle he'd be unstoppable, maybe even by Dake.

 

Also, you hear a lot of compliments towards Dake for moving up to face Taylor...but there is an opposite side to that coin. Taylor could've moved up, or maybe even down to 157, and completely dominated the competition. I have no doubt whatsoever he could step on the mat with Chris Perry and major him even now. Yet Taylor accepted the challenge of probably the greatest wrestler of his generation. People say Dake has brass balls...and he does....but so does Taylor.

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Dake has defeated Taylor because he is a better wrestler. Taylor even got help from the ref this time around with the ridiculous stall call and probably on the 1st period reversal being ruled an escape, and he still lost. Any supposed lack of mental toughness has nothing to do with it. Taylor is an incredibly dominant wrestler. Outside of Dake he outclassed the entire field and is not going to be challenged next year.

Also rather than criticizing Taylor's alleged lack of mental toughness (which I think is a completely bogus criticism), something should rather be said for Dake's mental toughness. Winning matches like the semifinal match against Humphrey his true freshman year says it all.

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After Dake went up 3-2, the 20 or so people I was watching with all said "that's it, it's over". Dake's better. How anyone could have been arguing otherwise, as all evidence continued to demonstrate it, well...

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"there will be points scored" was Taylor's plan,what happened to that plan? He couldnt carry the confidence from the first (easy) takedown because he was finally up against a wrestler who could rebound,change his defensive style (spent a lot of time expecting more of Taylors aggresiveness,which never really came),then simply rode him out. Was rooting for Taylor,and actually a Dake hater,but this series,if continued, would never turn out any different for Taylor.

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After Dake went up 3-2, the 20 or so people I was watching with all said "that's it, it's over". Dake's better. How anyone could have been arguing otherwise, as all evidence continued to demonstrate it, well...

 

EXACTLY what I text my brother and told him. It's over!

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Two great wrestlers in the finals - one had to win

 

Dake proved once again he finds a way to win when it counts the most

 

How fitting that Dake got taken down only once this year - in the finals of the most anticipated bout in many years by a guy who just dominated everyone else. Kudos to ESPN on a great move

 

Dake won, Taylor lost - doesn't mean Taylor is a loser

 

Dake wins 4 titles at consecutive weights w/o a redshirt year - will that ever happen again?

 

Dake one of the all-time greats and Taylor with three 1-point losses - how far behind?

 

Both legacys not complete yet and could continue against each other this spring and summer

 

Two great wrestlers, the better wrestler won - I don't understand a need to knock one or the other

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