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13 hours ago, irani said:

One other team that dominated, although perhaps not quite at the same  level as the other posts here .is Iran at the 1961 Freestyle world chmapionship in Yokahama, Japan

5 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze, 1 5th place out of 8

Men's freestyle[edit]

Event Gold Silver Bronze
Flyweight
52 kg
Ali Aliyev
23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
Nasrollah Soltaninejad
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran
Cemal Yanılmaz
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey
Bantamweight
57 kg
Ebrahim Seifpour
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran
János Varga
23px-Flag_of_Hungary.svg.png Hungary
Hüseyin Akbaş
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey
Featherweight
62 kg
Vladimir Rubashvili
23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
Yunus Pehlivan
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey
Hamid Tavakkol
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran
Lightweight
67 kg
Mohammad Ali Sanatkaran
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran
Vladimir Sinyavsky
23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
Udey Chand
23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png India
Welterweight
73 kg
Emam-Ali Habibi
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran
Mikhail Bekmurzov
23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
Yutaka Kaneko
22px-Flag_of_Japan_%281870%E2%80%931999% Japan
Middleweight
79 kg
Mansour Mehdizadeh
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran
Géza Hollósi
23px-Flag_of_Hungary.svg.png Hungary
Hans Antonsson
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden
Light heavyweight
87 kg
Gholamreza Takhti
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran
Boris Gurevich
23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
Hasan Güngör
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey
Heavyweight
+87 kg
Wilfried Dietrich
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png West Germany
Hamit Kaplan
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey
Aleksandr Medved
23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union

 

Maybe the best non Soviet/Russian team ever?

Any other contenders?

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4 hours ago, irani said:

US 1984 with an astrix?

I don't think so. I think even the most rabid US fan would say at best they might have been equal to the Soviets. They were not by far the best at team in the world. The competition did not show up.

Edited by Jim L

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1 hour ago, Jim L said:

I don't think so. I think even the most rabid US fan would say at best they might have been equal to the Soviets. They were not by far the best at team in the world. The competition did not show up.

really BIG astrix? :)

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Sure not quite as big as the 1904  *.. 

I looked at the results from the 1983 and 1985 would championships and by my count 22-23 of the 30 medalists were not at the 1984 games, it was not just the Soviets that did not show, Bulgaria, Hungary, Cuba and more boycotted. 

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19 minutes ago, Jim L said:

Sure not quite as big as the 1904  *.. 

I looked at the results from the 1983 and 1985 would championships and by my count 22-23 of the 30 medalists were not at the 1984 games, it was not just the Soviets that did not show, Bulgaria, Hungary, Cuba and more boycotted. 

Yes, I agree with 1984.  People like Jordanov, Beloglazov, FadZaev,  and Khadartsev were deprived of a chance to compete in the 1984 olympics.  It has to be a giant *

Based on your original question, I went back and looked at all world championships, of course Russia and USSRA won most, but here are the winners

Year Dates City and host country Team champion
1951 26–29 April Finland Helsinki, Finland 23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey
1954 22–25 May Japan Tokyo, Japan 23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey
1957 1–2 June Turkey Istanbul, Turkey 23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey
1959 1–5 October Iran Tehran, Iran 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1961 2–4 June Japan Yokohama, Japan 23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran
1962 21–23 June United States Toledo, United States 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1963 31 May – 2 June Bulgaria Sofia, Bulgaria 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1965 1–3 June United Kingdom Manchester, United Kingdom 23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281964%E2%80%93 Iran
1966 16–18 June United States Toledo, United States 23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey
1967 12–14 November India New Delhi, India 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1969 8–10 March Argentina Mar del Plata, Argentina 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1970 9–11 July Canada Edmonton, Canada 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1971 27–30 August Bulgaria Sofia, Bulgaria 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1973[a] 6–9 September Iran Tehran, Iran 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1974 29 August – 1 September Turkey Istanbul, Turkey 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1975 15–18 September Soviet Union Minsk, Soviet Union 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1977 21–23 October Switzerland Lausanne, Switzerland 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1978 24–27 August Mexico Mexico City, Mexico 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union
1979
25–28 August United States San Diego, United States 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1981 11–14 September Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Skopje, Yugoslavia 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1982 11–14 August Canada Edmonton, Canada 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1983 26–29 September Soviet Union Kiev, Soviet Union 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1985 10–13 October Hungary Budapest, Hungary 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1986 19–22 October Hungary Budapest, Hungary 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1987 26–29 August France Clermont-Ferrand, France 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1989 31 August – 3 September Switzerland Martigny, Switzerland 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1990 6–9 September Japan Tokyo, Japan 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1991 3–6 October Bulgaria Varna, Bulgaria 23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1993 25–28 August Canada Toronto, Canada 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 1994 25–28 August Turkey Istanbul, Turkey 23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey 1995 10–13 August United States Atlanta, United States 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 1997 28–31 August Russia Krasnoyarsk, Russia 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 1998 8–11 September Iran Tehran, Iran 23px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iran 1999 7–10 October Turkey Ankara, Turkey 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 2001 22–25 November Bulgaria Sofia, Bulgaria 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 2002 5–7 September Iran Tehran, Iran 23px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iran 2003 12–14 September United States New York, United States 23px-Flag_of_Georgia_%281990%E2%80%93200 Georgia Year Dates City and host country Team champion Men's freestyle Men's Greco-Roman Women's freestyle 2005 26 September – 2 October Hungary Budapest, Hungary 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Hungary.svg.png Hungary 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2006 25 September – 1 October China Guangzhou, China 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2007 17–23 September Azerbaijan Baku, Azerbaijan 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2008 11–13 October Japan Tokyo, Japan 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2009 21–27 September Denmark Herning, Denmark 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey 23px-Flag_of_Azerbaijan.svg.png Azerbaijan 2010 6–12 September Russia Moscow, Russia 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2011 12–18 September Turkey Istanbul, Turkey 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2012 27–29 September Canada Strathcona County, Canada 23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China 2013 16–22 September Hungary Budapest, Hungary 23px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iran 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2014 8–14 September Uzbekistan Tashkent, Uzbekistan 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iran 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2015 7–15 September United States Las Vegas, United States 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2016 10–11 December Hungary Budapest, Hungary 2017 21–26 August France Paris, France 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2018 20–28 October Hungary Budapest, Hungary 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2019 14–22 September Kazakhstan Nur-Sultan, Kazakhstan 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan

Other than Iran in 1961, the only other non Russia/USSR team to win in domianting fashion was Turkey in 1951.  USSR did not even particpate as far as I can tell, and Turkey dominated

en's freestyle[edit]

Event Gold Silver Bronze Flyweight
52 kg Ali Yücel
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey Mahmoud Mollaghasemi
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran Bengt Johansson
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden Bantamweight
57 kg Nasuh Akar
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey Niilo Turkkila
23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland Mehdi Yaghoubi
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran Featherweight
62 kg Nurettin Zafer
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey Ilmari Ruikka
23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland Henry Holmberg
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden Lightweight
67 kg Olle Anderberg
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden Garibaldo Nizzola
23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Italy İbrahim Zengin
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey Welterweight
73 kg Celal Atik
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey Aleksanteri Keisala
23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland Abdollah Mojtabavi
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran Middleweight
79 kg Haydar Zafer
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey Gholamreza Takhti
23px-State_flag_of_Iran_%281933%E2%80%93 Iran Göte Ekström
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden Light heavyweight
87 kg Yaşar Doğu
23px-Flag_of_Turkey.svg.png Turkey Viking Palm
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden Max Leichter
23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png West Germany Heavyweight
+87 kg Bertil Antonsson
23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden Pauli Riihimäki
23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland Natale Vecchi
23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Italy

 

Who Knew, at one time Sweden and Finland were big in FS wrestling?

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1985 Worlds in Hungary:

Soviets = 5 Gold, 1 Silver, 2 Bronze.  

22 of the 30 medals (Including 8 of the Golds) in this Championships were won by nations that boycotted the 84 Summer Games

Of further note, 6 of the 10 Members of the USA Olympic Wrestling Team were not on this squad (Weaver, Davis, Lewis, Rein, Banach, Banach).  For what varying reasons they did not compete I do not know though I do know that Ed Banach had terrible problems with concussions.  In fact I think he wrestled the Gold Medal Match against Ota while suffering from one.  I believe he retired after the games.  

That change in squad dynamics represented a loss of 4 Golds and 2 Silvers.  

How all this figures into the asterisk is up for debate.  Interesting data though.  

Joe Gonzales is the only athlete to compete on both the 84 and 85 teams who didn't medal either year (DNP in 84, 4th in 85)

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47 minutes ago, wrestlingstrength said:

1985 Worlds in Hungary:

Soviets = 5 Gold, 1 Silver, 2 Bronze.  

22 of the 30 medals (Including 8 of the Golds) in this Championships were won by nations that boycotted the 84 Summer Games

Of further note, 6 of the 10 Members of the USA Olympic Wrestling Team were not on this squad (Weaver, Davis, Lewis, Rein, Banach, Banach).  For what varying reasons they did not compete I do not know though I do know that Ed Banach had terrible problems with concussions.  In fact I think he wrestled the Gold Medal Match against Ota while suffering from one.  I believe he retired after the games.  

That change in squad dynamics represented a loss of 4 Golds and 2 Silvers.  

How all this figures into the asterisk is up for debate.  Interesting data though.  

Joe Gonzales is the only athlete to compete on both the 84 and 85 teams who didn't medal either year (DNP in 84, 4th in 85)

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Very interesting analysis.  I wonder why Mongolia boycotted?

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12 minutes ago, irani said:

Very interesting analysis.  I wonder why Mongolia boycotted?

According to Wikipedia they were one of the earlier nations to announce.  The initial order was the Soviets then:

Bulgaria, Mongolia, Vietnam, Laos and Czechoslovakia.  All the other nations came after that.  

Mongolia was a Communist Nation in 1984 and since its inception as a communist country received considerable aid from the Soviets, including protection by a large number of Soviet Troops in Country to dissuade a Chinese invasion.   They sided with the Soviets over the Chinese during the Sino-Soviet Split (The Chinese were one of the few Communist Nations that participated in the games). So I have to imagine that all was a big factor.    

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1 minute ago, wrestlingstrength said:

According to Wikipedia they were one of the earlier nations to announce.  The initial order was the Soviets then:

Bulgaria, Mongolia, Vietnam, Laos and Czechoslovakia.  All the other nations came after that.  

Mongolia was a Communist Nation in 1984 and since its inception as a communist country received considerable aid from the Soviets, including protection by a large number of Soviet Troops in Country to dissuade a Chinese invasion.   They sided with the Soviets over the Chinese during the Sino-Soviet Split (The Chinese were one of the few Communist Nations that participated in the games). So I have to imagine that all was a big factor.    

Thanks, I did not realize they were a communist country.  But then again, I never said I knew much :)

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