New Gold Medalists for 2012 Olympics at 120kg

[Jon_Kozak 196]

Sounds like both Bilyal Makhov (RUS) & Komeil Ghasemi (IRI) will be awarded the Gold medal for the 2012 Olympics at 120kgs

Former gold and silver medalists, Artur Taymazov(UZB) & Davit Modzmanashvili(GEO), have tested positive for PEDs and their medals have been stripped.

Interestingly enough, Makhov is currently under investigation for PEDs...last I saw he said they were his wife's and he got them mixed up with his supplements haha.

[AHamilton 345]

Tervel is going to be the champ soon!

[LJB 1,335]

this definitely moves him up to silver, right?

 

[Jon_Kozak 196]

13 minutes ago, LJB said:

this definitely moves him up to silver, right?

 

Not sure...currently all I've seen is that both Ghasemi and Makhov have been moved up to Gold.

Tervel and Daulet Shabanbay (KAZ) are both bronze medalists. So I'd imagine they would just keep them both at bronze rather than just move or both up to silver.

[LJB 1,335]

2 minutes ago, Jon_Kozak said:

Not sure...currently all I've seen is that both Ghasemi and Makhov have been moved up to Gold.

Tervel and Daulet Shabanbay (KAZ) are both bronze medalists. So I'd imagine they would just keep them both at bronze rather than just move or both up to silver.

double bronze complicates this process...

[Jon_Kozak 196]

11 minutes ago, LJB said:

double bronze complicates this process...

No doubt it does, especially when so many are testing positive. 

I actually like double bronze now. But I can't stand repechage...I'd love for a full wrestleback consolation bracket. 

[Shiraz123 587]

Obviously everyone knows Ghasemi should be handed the only gold. 

 

Ghasemi lost to Taymazov because he was unlucky and lost the ball grab thing at the end of both periods, otherwise it could have been the other way. Makhov lost to the silver medalist and is currently banned for taking his wife's steroids. Should be Ghasemi gold and Dlagnev silver. 

[Jim L 220]

1 hour ago, Shiraz123 said:

Obviously everyone knows Ghasemi should be handed the only gold. 

 

Ghasemi lost to Taymazov because he was unlucky and lost the ball grab thing at the end of both periods, otherwise it could have been the other way. Makhov lost to the silver medalist and is currently banned for taking his wife's steroids. Should be Ghasemi gold and Dlagnev silver. 

Seems like a hasty decision to give a gold to someone who is under investigation for PEDs. I guess if his "mix-up" incidentwas post-2012 

[Jon_Kozak 196]

Makhov is currently under investigation. I believe the positive test was from the Matteo Pellicone in January 

[gimpeltf 1,342]

29 minutes ago, Jon_Kozak said:

Makhov is currently under investigation. I believe the positive test was from the Matteo Pellicone in January 

Is that the same event that Zahid didn't get dqed from?

[Jon_Kozak 196]

6 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

Is that the same event that Zahid didn't get dqed from?

Correct-Zahid won the Pellicone beating Ringer 7-5 in the finals.

Then shortly after he was released from ASU for testing positive for a recreational drug. 

[Cradle1 232]

On 7/13/2020 at 1:39 PM, Jon_Kozak said:

 

Interestingly enough, Makhov is currently under investigation for PEDs...last I saw he said they were his wife's and he got them mixed up with his supplements haha.

 That could happen to anyone.  I recall oh to well my own false positive-  when I accidentally took my wife’s Dianabol, winstrol, and anavar  thinking that they were my vitamins- and mistakenly injected her testosterone thinking it was my b-12.

 

[Cradle1 232]

Some say that our wives look like they were separated at birth-  but there are key differences if you look closely.  Makhovs wife has a bit more of a hairy back.  My wife has a more prominent Adam’s apple.

[dmm53 456]

Why does it take 8 years to figure this stuff out? New drug tests? 

I have no sympathy for the cheaters, but I'm almost inclined to think there should be a statute of limitations.  

[Greatdane67 193]

Taymazov cheated his entire career. He looked abnormal from the beginning.

[maligned 455]

18 hours ago, dmm53 said:

Why does it take 8 years to figure this stuff out? New drug tests? 

I have no sympathy for the cheaters, but I'm almost inclined to think there should be a statute of limitations.  

Right. New tests. It's clearly stated in testing policy that samples will continue to be tested for a certain number of years as new testing methods develop. Not sure what that "certain number" is. Anyone else know?

[JHRoseWrestling 135]

WADA Statute of limitations is 10 years.

[wrestfan 565]

8 hours ago, maligned said:

Right. New tests. It's clearly stated in testing policy that samples will continue to be tested for a certain number of years as new testing methods develop. Not sure what that "certain number" is. Anyone else know?

it's 8 years

https://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-sanctions-one-athlete-for-failing-anti-doping-tests-at-london-2012-7

The reanalysis programme for the samples from the Olympic Games London 2012 will continue until the end of the statute of limitations period is reached in August 2020

[Jim L 220]

On 7/17/2020 at 9:56 PM, dmm53 said:

Why does it take 8 years to figure this stuff out? New drug tests? 

I have no sympathy for the cheaters, but I'm almost inclined to think there should be a statute of limitations.  

I think it is important to continue to test samples for years afterwards. It lets rathletes and coaches (and wives)  know that even if you have a new regimen that can't be detected today you can be caught years later. 

[dmm53 456]

1 hour ago, Jim L said:

I think it is important to continue to test samples for years afterwards. It lets rathletes and coaches (and wives)  know that even if you have a new regimen that can't be detected today you can be caught years later. 

Perhaps so.   I wonder if the famous ancient Greek wrestler, Milo of Croton, will eventually have his medals stripped from him ... rumor has it that he ate bull's meat, which was then banned in competitions.  :) 

 

 

Edited July 19 by dmm53