uncle bernard 1,117 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) Looks like the rumors a while back were true. Daton out for a year for violating anti-doping rules. Sounds like he was very fortunate to argue his way down to a 1 year suspension from the 4 year suspension he was facing. Edited September 8, 2020 by uncle bernard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistydawn 38 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 He's a great wrestler and he's also very lucky. Had the Olympics happened on time he was out and now he gets another shot. He popped for Ostarine. It's a drug, I'm told, that is used to lean out while maintaining muscle mass. He was always one big guy for the weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 i just got done reading the actual case findings... his levels were so low that it only made sense he accidentally ingested it... on the outside it seems shady, but, USADA is convinced... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 as an aside, all the rumors i heard were clearly wrong on this one... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 1,029 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 So Fix “accidentally ingests” the anabolic steroids his father (and RTC coach) was taking daily at the suggestion of Oklahoma State’s assistant coach, Chris Perry? I wonder what other PED’s are floating around the OSU/OKRTC coaches fridges? 1 steelfrog reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelfrog 12 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/Daton-Fix-Consent-Award.pdf 1 GranbyTroll reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,459 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, LJB said: as an aside, all the rumors i heard were clearly wrong on this one... The rumored drug was wrong, as well as some claims that he was trying to get a backdated prescription for said drug. Anything else? Still odd that according to that document he was “formally charged with an anti-doping violation” in March, was even suspended for a pretty significant event, and no one that calls themselves journalists (or Flo) said anything about it? 1 mattchristensen112 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 920 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) Convenient that he will be eligible on 10-Feb, 2021. When does Zahid's report come out? It will be interesting to see if he also got popped for ostarine. If so, I would be curious to see if Zahid's dad was also mixing a banned substance in a supplement OR if Zahid was also hanging out in Mr. Fix's garage? Edited September 8, 2020 by lu_alum 1 madcat11 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, lu_alum said: Convenient that he will be eligible on 10-Feb, 2021. When does Zahid's report come out? It will be interesting to see if he also got popped for ostarine. If so, I would be curious to see if Zahid's dad was also mixing a banned substance in a supplement OR if Zahid was also handing out in Mr. Fix's garage? zahid was popped for recreational and by ASU... not USADA... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 920 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, LJB said: zahid was popped for recreational and by ASU... not USADA... Got it - thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogalthorpe Haywood 399 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, wrestlingphish said: So Fix “accidentally ingests” the anabolic steroids his father (and RTC coach) was taking daily at the suggestion of Oklahoma State’s assistant coach, Chris Perry? I wonder what other PED’s are floating around the OSU/OKRTC coaches fridges? Plenty, so they can be used as scapegoats when necessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1032004 said: The rumored drug was wrong, as well as some claims that he was trying to get a backdated prescription for said drug. Anything else? Still odd that according to that document he was “formally charged with an anti-doping violation” in March, was even suspended for a pretty significant event, and no one that calls themselves journalists (or Flo) said anything about it? "formally charged" clearly does not mean "publicly charged"... no one announced anything anywhere... not sure what you would expect... and FRL has mentioned there was an issue several times in the last 6 months... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,039 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 If you read the report, seems pretty cut and dry. I bet Fix’ dad feels pretty ****ty about this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 1,026 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 Ummm was "Christopher Campbell" the arbitrator, Christ Campbell the USA wrestling world freestyle champ? Seems likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: If you read the report, seems pretty cut and dry. I bet Fix’ dad feels pretty ****ty about this. it seems incredibly irresponsible of everyone involved and just a bit convenient... but, the levels were obviously low enough to justify the explanation... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 1,117 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, LJB said: it seems incredibly irresponsible of everyone involved and just a bit convenient... but, the levels were obviously low enough to justify the explanation... Personally, I'd like hear more about Chris Perry's familiarity with steroids and why he recommended them to the head coach of his RTC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, uncle bernard said: Personally, I'd like hear more about Chris Perry's familiarity with steroids and why he recommended them to the head coach of his RTC. why? they are adults who can use whatever supplement they choose for whatever they want... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,459 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, LJB said: why? they are adults who can use whatever supplement they choose for whatever they want... According to webMD, “the FDA considers ostarine illegal” 1 GranbyTroll reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,459 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, LJB said: "formally charged" clearly does not mean "publicly charged"... no one announced anything anywhere... not sure what you would expect... and FRL has mentioned there was an issue several times in the last 6 months... Is “publicly charged” a thing? Is it normal for suspensions to be announced 6+ months after they’ve already started? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShakaAloha 427 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 Daton is the luckiest guy in the sport. Everything went his way in this situation (aside from being caught). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: Is “publicly charged” a thing? Is it normal for suspensions to be announced 6+ months after they’ve already started? actually, it is the norm... the initial notification is intended to be private until the appeal process is complete... clearly, stuff gets leaked in the bigger sports because there is always scumbags like mineo everywhere... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, 1032004 said: According to webMD, “the FDA considers ostarine illegal” you can't possibly be hanging your hat on that, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,459 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LJB said: actually, it is the norm... the initial notification is intended to be private until the appeal process is complete... clearly, stuff gets leaked in the bigger sports because there is always scumbags like mineo everywhere... Who have been the last few US wrestlers to get suspended? The Zahid news broke pretty quick. Looks like news of JO’s positive test in 2017 was only about 2 months behind. Edited September 8, 2020 by 1032004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: Who have been the last few US wrestlers to get suspended? The Zahid news broke pretty quick. Looks like news of JO’s positive test in 2017 was only about 2 months behind. zahid was not USADA and JOs news broke after it was finalized... just like this situation... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 1,029 Report post Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, LJB said: why? they are adults who can use whatever supplement they choose for whatever they want... Well if I worked for Okie State’s athletic department I’d have a few questions such as... Has Chris ever recommended anabolic steroids to another athlete’s parents? Has he recommended them to an athlete? Does Chris use anabolic steroids while working out at OSU’s facilities and training their athletes? Has Derek possessed or used anabolic steroids while using campus facilities? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
