nolf vs Bubba Jenkins 10/20

[Antitroll2828 525]

Does bubba return to happy valley and take out another of Cael’s favorites 

[hammerlockthree 1,905]

Is there some reason to think this? 

Nolf would kill him.

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Zain/Pico next one announced?

[Class 57]

Wow!  Bubba has some stones to take on Nolf.

Must feel good enough about Cael and the program to join the card.

[Antitroll2828 525]

2 minutes ago, Class said:

Wow!  Bubba has some stones to take on Nolf.

Must feel good enough about Cael and the program to join the card.

Bubba did an interview with I think intermat about 2 years ago and they asked if he could fight any 2 people in the world who would he pick and he said Frank Molinaro and Cael Sanderson and made it clear he still really hates both of them 

[Antitroll2828 525]

Actually I’m a little off he said he would have picked Cael a few years earlier but didn’t hold the same type of grudge, he did have some harsh words for Molinaro though

https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/20386

[Class 57]

Now doing an event that in no uncertain terms benefits PSU, NLWC and Cael in a very direct way shows something--even if Bubba benefits individually whether financial, exposure, etc.

[ShakaAloha 89]

1 hour ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Bubba did an interview with I think intermat about 2 years ago and they asked if he could fight any 2 people in the world who would he pick and he said Frank Molinaro and Cael Sanderson and made it clear he still really hates both of them 

Why does Bubba hate Frank?

[Antitroll2828 525]

1 hour ago, ShakaAloha said:

Why does Bubba hate Frank?

In the article I posted , bubba said he’s not a “good teammate or a good person “ bubba goes on to say he likes guys with character and personality and says molinaro has neither 

[Alwayswrestling 186]

I do not see this ending any way other than a tech for Nolf.

[madcat11 400]

1 hour ago, Alwayswrestling said:

I do not see this ending any way other than a tech for Nolf.

Anyone else have deja vu reading this?

Edited October 5 by madcat11

[nhs67 794]

8 minutes ago, madcat11 said:

Anyone else have deja vu reading this?

You referring to the JO match?  I don't recall anyone saying that for the JO-Nolf match.

If you're referring to the DT-Jenkins match, then also no.  A) A young, scrawny-a$$ DT against PRIME Jenkins doesn't sniff an old over-the-hill MMA fighter who hasn't sniffed competitive wrestling in some time against a Nolf who defeats any version of PRIME Jenkins at folkstyle.  Yes the match is freestyle, but this is going to look much worse than Caldwell.

[Cementmixer103 51]

I wish Bubba gave freestyle a go. He had all of the tools to be successful. Loved when he launched Molinaro at "Grapple at the Garden".

I enjoyed his personality (drinking the bottle of Hennessey while doing an interview, a week after winning NCAA's). Haha

[gobraves101905 65]

Bubba has been at many ASU matches and events over the years. Will be interesting to see how it plays out with Molinaro now at ASU. Would love to see Bubba change direction with the situation. I know he loves ASU and Tempe. 

[MSU158 1,495]

13 hours ago, nhs67 said:

You referring to the JO match?  I don't recall anyone saying that for the JO-Nolf match.

If you're referring to the DT-Jenkins match, then also no.  A) A young, scrawny-a$$ DT against PRIME Jenkins doesn't sniff an old over-the-hill MMA fighter who hasn't sniffed competitive wrestling in some time against a Nolf who defeats any version of PRIME Jenkins at folkstyle.  Yes the match is freestyle, but this is going to look much worse than Caldwell.

I am sorry, but that is a pretty poor assessment.  That "scrawny" DT WRECKED that weight class all season.  That included a Steve Fittery that was REALLY GOOD.  Bubba Jenkins was much like Darrion Caldwell, not always at his peak.  BUT, his peak was about as good as ANYONE.  

Now, with the above said, would I favor Nolf over a PRIME Jenkins?  Sure.  I favored DT.  But, I was NOT surprised that Jenkins beat DT and would not have been surprised if he beat Nolf.

Finally, yes Nolf should wreck a 32 year old MMA fighter that always had a suspicious gas tank.  The pace Nolf wrestles should be extremely problematic for Jenkins.  However, Nolf loves to put himself in dangerous situations and Jenkins is dangerous enough to catch him.  So, I would say Jenkins still has a "puncher's chance", but I would heavily lean towards a tech-fall in Nolf's favor.

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18 minutes ago, MSU158 said:

I am sorry, but that is a pretty poor assessment.  That "scrawny" DT WRECKED that weight class all season.  That included a Steve Fittery that was REALLY GOOD.  Bubba Jenkins was much like Darrion Caldwell, not always at his peak.  BUT, his peak was about as good as ANYONE.  

Now, with the above said, would I favor Nolf over a PRIME Jenkins?  Sure.  I favored DT.  But, I was NOT surprised that Jenkins beat DT and would not have been surprised if he beat Nolf.

Finally, yes Nolf should wreck a 32 year old MMA fighter that always had a suspicious gas tank.  The pace Nolf wrestles should be extremely problematic for Jenkins.  However, Nolf loves to put himself in dangerous situations and Jenkins is dangerous enough to catch him.  So, I would say Jenkins still has a "puncher's chance", but I would heavily lean towards a tech-fall in Nolf's favor.

Never did I say scrawny DT was a poor wrestler.

DT now VS DT then, though?  DT then was damn near rawboned.

Also, yes.  I favor Nolf as I favored DT and also would not be surprised by a Jenkins win PRIME VS PRIME against either (that DT was not PRIME, btw... still favored him and would again).

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1 hour ago, MSU158 said:

I am sorry, but that is a pretty poor assessment.  That "scrawny" DT WRECKED that weight class all season.  That included a Steve Fittery that was REALLY GOOD.  Bubba Jenkins was much like Darrion Caldwell, not always at his peak.  BUT, his peak was about as good as ANYONE.  

Now, with the above said, would I favor Nolf over a PRIME Jenkins?  Sure.  I favored DT.  But, I was NOT surprised that Jenkins beat DT and would not have been surprised if he beat Nolf.

Finally, yes Nolf should wreck a 32 year old MMA fighter that always had a suspicious gas tank.  The pace Nolf wrestles should be extremely problematic for Jenkins.  However, Nolf loves to put himself in dangerous situations and Jenkins is dangerous enough to catch him.  So, I would say Jenkins still has a "puncher's chance", but I would heavily lean towards a tech-fall in Nolf's favor.

I'd probably favor Jenkins over Nolf in an MMA match, but in a wrestling match I can't help but think Nolf would wreck Jenkins pretty badly. 

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5 hours ago, TobusRex said:

I'd probably favor Jenkins over Nolf in an MMA match, but in a wrestling match I can't help but think Nolf would wreck Jenkins pretty badly. 

I'd absolutely favor Jenkins in a MMA fight.  Jenkins is/was savage, he just thought he was elite with throwin' hands and found out he didn't like getting hit REAL hard.

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Just now, nhs67 said:

I'd absolutely favor Jenkins in a MMA fight.  Jenkins is/was savage, he just thought he was elite with throwin' hands and found out he didn't like getting hit REAL hard.

I was pretty shocked to see Bubba's "disclosed" career earnings in MMA: $29,000, and that's with a record of 14-4. Wow, that's chump change. I wonder why he continues with it? Seriously, a guy working at McDonalds over 9 years (the length of Bubba's MMA career) could've expected to make at least $162,000 over the same time span. How in the hell is Bubba paying bills? He's got to have a second job or something. 

 

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/17526-bubba-jenkins

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22 minutes ago, TobusRex said:

I was pretty shocked to see Bubba's "disclosed" career earnings in MMA: $29,000, and that's with a record of 14-4. Wow, that's chump change. I wonder why he continues with it? Seriously, a guy working at McDonalds over 9 years (the length of Bubba's MMA career) could've expected to make at least $162,000 over the same time span. How in the hell is Bubba paying bills? He's got to have a second job or something. 

 

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/17526-bubba-jenkins

That's just disclosed that was reported to that site.

[nhs67 794]

27 minutes ago, TobusRex said:

I was pretty shocked to see Bubba's "disclosed" career earnings in MMA: $29,000, and that's with a record of 14-4. Wow, that's chump change. I wonder why he continues with it? Seriously, a guy working at McDonalds over 9 years (the length of Bubba's MMA career) could've expected to make at least $162,000 over the same time span. How in the hell is Bubba paying bills? He's got to have a second job or something. 

 

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/17526-bubba-jenkins

If you select the plus 'dropdown' option it shows you.

The $29k is legit from teo fights.  Both were losses, too.  Minus bonuses I would say it is safe to say he got $15k to show and 15k to win.

Pico's original contract was worth 25k to show 25k to win.  He built up to 80k to show 80k to win but is currently back down to 25k show+win.

Edited October 6 by nhs67
Edited Pico info

[Cradle1 232]

2 hours ago, TobusRex said:

I was pretty shocked to see Bubba's "disclosed" career earnings in MMA: $29,000, and that's with a record of 14-4. Wow, that's chump change. I wonder why he continues with it? Seriously, a guy working at McDonalds over 9 years (the length of Bubba's MMA career) could've expected to make at least $162,000 over the same time span. How in the hell is Bubba paying bills? He's got to have a second job or something. 

 

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/17526-bubba-jenkins

Can you put in a good word for him with your manager there?

[TobusRex 1,825]

2 hours ago, Cradle1 said:

Can you put in a good word for him with your manager there?

I can mention it to the old lady at the drive through window when I go through for the #2 breakfast combo....

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Did Jenkins wrestle any freestyle after college?  Wikipedia says he was a Jr World Champ in '07