PRyan2012 343 Report post Posted October 21, 2020 4 hours ago, MagnetBack said: You're right. I expect this to happen with the Olympics in 2021 too. We will start seeing nations pull out and eventually the Olympics will likely be canceled. It's really unfortunate, but we are in a pandemic. This is a plandemic not pandemic. 2 2 cjc007, nhs67, dwkeller and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 78 Report post Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, TBar1977 said: The Department of Homeland Security disagrees with you. I'll take their word over yours. I’m sorry you are scared of the hipsters playing at wannabe revolutionary. My brief double check of the DHS focused on their saying right wing terrorists were a greater threat, especially this year. People really need to get outside their bubbles and actually interact with different groups.. it would massively fix half of these issues. 1 1 southend and tightwaist reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,822 Report post Posted October 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, jp157 said: I’m sorry you are scared of the hipsters playing at wannabe revolutionary. My brief double check of the DHS focused on their saying right wing terrorists were a greater threat, especially this year. People really need to get outside their bubbles and actually interact with different groups.. it would massively fix half of these issues. Your "double check" must have indeed been brief. From Page 4 of the DHS Threat Assessment. If you can't figure this out, they are talking about Antifa. Exploitation of Lawful and Protected Speech and Protests. During the course of developing the HTA we began to see a new, alarming trend of exploitation of lawful protests causing violence, death, and destruction in American communities. This anti-government, anti-authority and anarchist violent extremism was identified by DHS in September 2019 when we published our Strategic Framework for Countering Terrorism and Targeted Violence. As the date of publication of this HTA, we have seen over 100 days of violence and destruction in our cities. The co-opting of lawful protests led to destruction of government property and have turned deadly. Indeed, DHS law enforcement officers suffered over 300 separate injuries and were assaulted with sledgehammers, commercial grade fireworks, rocks, metal pipes, improvised explosive devices, and more. This violence, perpetrated by anarchist extremists and detailed in numerous public statements that remain available on the DHS website, significantly threatens the Homeland by undermining officer and public safety— as well as our values and way of life. While the HTA touches on these issues, we are still in the nascent stages of understanding the threat this situation poses to Americans, the Homeland, and the American way of life. This is far more than you depict, but carry on. 2 1 southend, dman115 and jsmalls131313 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 78 Report post Posted October 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Your "double check" must have indeed been brief. From Page 4 of the DHS Threat Assessment. If you can't figure this out, they are talking about Antifa. Exploitation of Lawful and Protected Speech and Protests. During the course of developing the HTA we began to see a new, alarming trend of exploitation of lawful protests causing violence, death, and destruction in American communities. This anti-government, anti-authority and anarchist violent extremism was identified by DHS in September 2019 when we published our Strategic Framework for Countering Terrorism and Targeted Violence. As the date of publication of this HTA, we have seen over 100 days of violence and destruction in our cities. The co-opting of lawful protests led to destruction of government property and have turned deadly. Indeed, DHS law enforcement officers suffered over 300 separate injuries and were assaulted with sledgehammers, commercial grade fireworks, rocks, metal pipes, improvised explosive devices, and more. This violence, perpetrated by anarchist extremists and detailed in numerous public statements that remain available on the DHS website, significantly threatens the Homeland by undermining officer and public safety— as well as our values and way of life. While the HTA touches on these issues, we are still in the nascent stages of understanding the threat this situation poses to Americans, the Homeland, and the American way of life. This is far more than you depict, but carry on. Ah pearl clutching. The best. I don’t support them btw.. people over exaggerate the “threat”. But first hand experience counts for nothing I suppose. Go on clutching those pearls though 1 southend reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 651 Report post Posted October 21, 2020 Ah pearl clutching. The best. I don’t support them btw.. people over exaggerate the “threat”. But first hand experience counts for nothing I suppose. Go on clutching those pearls thoughBurning and looting buildings are part of Antifa's battle against free speech. A very undereducated violent mob of malcontents. Bums, losers, anarchists, and Communists. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk 3 TBar1977, Alwayswrestling and dwkeller reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Kong 22 Report post Posted October 21, 2020 10 hours ago, klehner said: So, you are suggesting that the competition be held in a country in which the cases are not surging? Say, New Zealand? Do you think any such country (who would seem to have their act together wrt protecting their citizens) would allow a large influx of people from all over, including from countries in which the cases *are* surging (like Serbia)? What country with a low case count would allow a contigent from the US to enter? Your point is spot on. In fact, most countries with low counts won't let ANYONE from the US in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,822 Report post Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, jp157 said: Ah pearl clutching. The best. I don’t support them btw.. people over exaggerate the “threat”. But first hand experience counts for nothing I suppose. Go on clutching those pearls though I have two eyes and can think for myself. I don't cede my common sense over to anyone. Not to the government or to those who try too hard to convince me that something I can see in plain sight is not happening. Or that something there is no evidence of is in fact happening. 1 1 dwkeller and dman115 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 78 Report post Posted October 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: I have two eyes and can think for myself. I don't cede my common sense over to anyone. Not to the government or to those who try too hard to convince me that something I can see in plain sight is not happening. Or that something there is no evidence of is in fact happening. Shrug. Okie dokie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,052 Report post Posted October 21, 2020 Not sure who is arguing what here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 78 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Not sure who is arguing what here... I said I think people whining about masks are being soft. Then mentioned i also think “Antifa” is vastly overrated and overblown. Based off interactions I’ve had with those types. That last part apparently freaked people out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsmalls131313 37 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, jp157 said: I said I think people whining about masks are being soft. Then mentioned i also think “Antifa” is vastly overrated and overblown. Based off interactions I’ve had with those types. That last part apparently freaked people out. Your agenda is pretty obvious to anyone reading. Keep spamming buzzwords like "pearl clutching" while trying to shift the focus to mythical "right wing terrorists" while portraying your buddies who are burning down businesses, murdering innocent cops and harassing innocent people on a daily basis. Just be happy you got your way and the US won't be at worlds. 1 1 dwkeller and dman115 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,133 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, jsmalls131313 said: Your agenda is pretty obvious to anyone reading. Keep spamming buzzwords like "pearl clutching" while trying to shift the focus to mythical "right wing terrorists" while portraying your buddies who are burning down businesses, murdering innocent cops and harassing innocent people on a daily basis. Just be happy you got your way and the US won't be at worlds. Mythical right wing terrorists? Are you denying they exist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 724 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 10:25 PM, nhs67 said: How does our governing body get chosen? Is it via election of some sort? If so they will be voted out. If not, then they all should be fired. Entirely hypocritical. Ruined it. 1 nhs67 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 743 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 Belgrade is using the arena for the tournament as a temporary hospital to deal with COVID-19 patients.https://seenews.com/news/serbias-govt-transforms-indoor-arena-into-temporary-covid-19-hospital-717809 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 1,397 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 What happened here? I thought we were discussing the total corruption and hypocrisy of USAW leaders and athletes for making a decision unpopular to some??? 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 78 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 11 hours ago, jsmalls131313 said: Your agenda is pretty obvious to anyone reading. Keep spamming buzzwords like "pearl clutching" while trying to shift the focus to mythical "right wing terrorists" while portraying your buddies who are burning down businesses, murdering innocent cops and harassing innocent people on a daily basis. Just be happy you got your way and the US won't be at worlds. The amount of things you incorrectly attributed to me is hilarious. I also just mentioned what the first 5 articles I checked said about the DHS... Im not “buddies” with those people... they only care about looking good and have completely focused on the white neighborhoods getting looted and ignored how devastated local black neighborhoods and businesses have been.. or said they’re “necessary sacrifices” for the “cause” while they retreat back to their mommies house in the suburbs. They are a dangerous tantrum that’s turning those they claim to support against them. They’re the type that gentrifies a neighborhood and does nothing to help the locals beyond Facebook posts or going to a riot for a weekend before running home. They disgust me as well because of their paternalistic racist attitude which is much worse than the normal redneck kind in so many ways... But hey, if you want to keep assuming I’m one of those people because I think they’re overblown... because they’re laughable hypocrites with no stomach to do half of what you people are scared of beyond tantrum riots.. you do you. Ive also said multiple times I don’t like the worlds decision but also wasn’t surprised it was coming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 875 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 I’ve heard people say Serbia has a travel ban on people from the US. Is that true? Never heard of this website but according to this article from 5 days ago, Serbia “has one of the most relaxed entry requirements in the world”: https://www.traveloffpath.com/serbia-covid-19-entry-requirements/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 78 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, 1032004 said: I’ve heard people say Serbia has a travel ban on people from the US. Is that true? Never heard of this website but according to this article from 5 days ago, Serbia “has one of the most relaxed entry requirements in the world”: https://www.traveloffpath.com/serbia-covid-19-entry-requirements/ I do not know what’s actually going on with the negotiations Trump started with Serbia and Kosovo. I DO know that Serbia is extremely sensitive over that issue. So they could be banning US over something involving that. I’m not sure but it’s hard to fully understand sometimes how seriously they take it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Mallard 150 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 As people sit on here and complain about "revolution". Id be curious to know what revolutions theyve heard of that were universally supported.... like ever? Please give an example of those who protested the right way, with the right people, with the right end goals. Systems that create social unrest create counter movements. Everyone wants to critize the movement with little attention to the system that created it in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsmalls131313 37 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, jp157 said: Im not “buddies” with those people... they only care about looking good and have completely focused on the white neighborhoods getting looted and ignored how devastated local black neighborhoods and businesses have been.. or said they’re “necessary sacrifices” for the “cause” while they retreat back to their mommies house in the suburbs. They are a dangerous tantrum that’s turning those they claim to support against them. They’re the type that gentrifies a neighborhood and does nothing to help the locals beyond Facebook posts or going to a riot for a weekend before running home. They disgust me as well because of their paternalistic racist attitude which is much worse than the normal redneck kind in so many ways... But hey, if you want to keep assuming I’m one of those people because I think they’re overblown... because they’re laughable hypocrites with no stomach to do half of what you people are scared of beyond tantrum riots.. you do you. So, in other words, you're actually more extremist than Antifa and your only issue is that they weren't anti white enough for you. Had they burned down a higher % of white neighborhoods, then they would have "stomach" enough to earn your respect. You are a loon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 78 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, jsmalls131313 said: So, in other words, you're actually more extremist than Antifa and your only issue is that they weren't anti white enough for you. Had they burned down a higher % of white neighborhoods, then they would have "stomach" enough to earn your respect. You are a loon. Wow. No. That isn’t it at all. How the hell did you get that out of it? I literally just talked about how they are hypocritical, paternalistically racist, tantrum throwers. I actually fall much more of the conservative end of the spectrum on most issues.. hell, I blame the left for half of the issues now because of how theyve ignored or bashed healthy masculinity because they said it was all bad.. as well as not teaching young men how to not be weak little victims enough and are idiots for being surprised that those kids became incels.. because they were never taught how to be a man.. I’m just capable of looking at a group and evaluating whether or not I think they’re actually capable of doing what people are afraid of. You also took me stating how they ignored what happened to the black neighborhoods they claim to care about as me being “anti white” You are genuinely slow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,052 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 Holy crap, guys. Can we just chill TF out? 2 Mphillips and dwkeller reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,052 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Mphillips said: Ruined it. Appropriate, as well. :P :P 1 Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 78 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Holy crap, guys. Can we just chill TF out? My head is spinning from the idiocy. I’ll tone it down. People seem to want to freak and stress out. I might as well let them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsmalls131313 37 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, jp157 said: Wow. No. That isn’t it at all. How the hell did you get that out of it? I literally just talked about how they are hypocritical, paternalistically racist, tantrum throwers. I actually fall much more of the conservative end of the spectrum on most issues.. hell, I blame the left for half of the issues now because of how theyve ignored or bashed healthy masculinity because they said it was all bad.. as well as not teaching young men how to not be weak little victims enough and are idiots for being surprised that those kids became incels.. because they were never taught how to be a man.. I’m just capable of looking at a group and evaluating whether or not I think they’re actually capable of doing what people are afraid of. You also took me stating how they ignored what happened to the black neighborhoods they claim to care about as me being “anti white” You are genuinely slow 1)You can't pretend to be intelligent when you end each sentence with an ellipses. 2) What do you mean they aren't "capable of doing what people are afraid of"? They already are doing that. They are already burning down cities, looting, assaulting, killing cops, blocking freeways and intimidating innocent people. If it were white guys in khakis with torches instead of masked leftists you would be calling for their heads. 3) You are the one who admitted you took issue with the fact that some black businesses were burned down and that it wasn't solely white businesses. You're embarrassing yourself"..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites