bnwtwg 421 Report post Posted November 8, 2020 I’m curious based off age-group and NCAA results who some of the boom or bust prospects have been for the US. This would be most based on what we would expect for senior-level results based on dominance, not necessarily styles (you will know who/why in a quick minute). But think of it like fantasy football Some booms that come to mind are Lincoln MacIlravy, Jamil Kelly, Tervel Dlagnev, Joe Williams, and Stephen Neal for various big boom reasons Some busts are Dean Heil, TJ Williams, Eric Tannenbaum, Mike Poeta, CP Schlatter, Metcalf, and Ed Ruth The jury is still out but not looking dicey for current competitors such as Imar, Nickal, Oliver, Retherford, Nolf, and Joseph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konquest 100 Report post Posted November 8, 2020 Dude Eric Tannenbaum graduated college and went to med school in Chicago, I believe. That's not a senior level "bust". 1 Big Nasty reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 461 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 Ed Ruth made a World Team and then went MMA... where he isn't really booming. I still wouldn't call him a bust in wrestling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,453 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 He also called metcalf a bust... why anyone is even responding is beyond me... 1 AHamilton reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 461 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Konquest said: Dude Eric Tannenbaum graduated college and went to med school in Chicago, I believe. That's not a senior level "bust". Lol... Cornell National Champ David Hirsch is a bust then too. He's just a world renowned facial surgeon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,217 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, AHamilton said: Lol... Cornell National Champ David Hirsch is a bust then too. He's just a world renowned facial surgeon. I'm a little confused. Is Tom Cruise then a boom or bust? What about Rachel Brosnahan? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMardigain 1,242 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Konquest said: Dude Eric Tannenbaum graduated college and went to med school in Chicago, I believe. That's not a senior level "bust". He’s actually an Orthopedic Surgeon right down the road from me. As my years of wrestling take a toll on my aging body I’ll take him bring “a bust.” Edited November 9, 2020 by MadMardigain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokieHWT 587 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 Dr. Devin Carter, 3xAA, only earned a BS, 3 Masters degrees and a PhD in 8 years at VT. Total bust. 1 AHamilton reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 461 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 9 hours ago, ionel said: I'm a little confused. Is Tom Cruise then a boom or bust? What about Rachel Brosnahan? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ NCAA results on Mr. Mapother? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 714 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 If you made a world team, you're not a bust at the senior level. 3 Alwayswrestling, AHamilton and Jim L reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 421 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 12 hours ago, Konquest said: Dude Eric Tannenbaum graduated college and went to med school in Chicago, I believe. That's not a senior level "bust". I simply meant that since he won like 7 Fargo titles and Schlatter won 5 or 6, before they ever stepped in a college room everyone expected both of them to be on multiple world teams at the conclusion of their college careers. I never said either is not a very successful person. I simply said at the senior men’s wrestling level. My bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,217 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, AHamilton said: NCAA results on Mr. Mapother? That'd be Mr. Mapother IV, but I was thinking of the OP "age-group" results for both of above. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokieHWT 587 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 I really enjoy positive threads like these. Let’s refer to multi-time NCAA champions, guys that achieved more by their freshman year of high school than most of the posters on this forum did in their entire careers, busts because they didn’t win a world senior medal.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim L 232 Report post Posted November 9, 2020 9 hours ago, bnwtwg said: I simply meant that since he won like 7 Fargo titles and Schlatter won 5 or 6, before they ever stepped in a college room everyone expected both of them to be on multiple world teams at the conclusion of their college careers. I never said either is not a very successful person. I simply said at the senior men’s wrestling level. My bad Expecting someone to be a world team member based on HS results is not a wise move. I don't think Pat Smith, with 4X NCAA titles, ever made a world team. not sure if Alan Fried did either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 359 Report post Posted November 10, 2020 Well these last 7 plus years we have a lot to be grateful for, I mean we have JB, KS, KD, DT, J’den, Gwizz, JG, Gilman, and probably quite a few more that I didn’t mention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogalthorpe Haywood 317 Report post Posted November 10, 2020 BTWTWG is my vote for douchiest poster of the month. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Mallard 130 Report post Posted November 10, 2020 I dont really like the topic, but what ever happened to Travis Lee? Judo backround, 2x champ, had the technique IMO. He seemed like a guy who would have had major success at the freestyle level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 421 Report post Posted November 10, 2020 This was stupid for me to do. I apologize and will be taking a self-imposed exile. 1 Drake_Mallard reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokieHWT 587 Report post Posted November 10, 2020 4 hours ago, bnwtwg said: This was stupid for me to do. I apologize and will be taking a self-imposed exile. Many world leaders have been exiled, including Napoleon and Wilheim II. Your successes may be closer to Wilheim at this point but make a few funny posts and this board seems to forget your transgressions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,572 Report post Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Drake_Mallard said: I dont really like the topic, but what ever happened to Travis Lee? Judo backround, 2x champ, had the technique IMO. He seemed like a guy who would have had major success at the freestyle level. Automation Lead at Aether Biomachines. https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-lee-profile/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cradle1 239 Report post Posted November 11, 2020 On 11/8/2020 at 4:30 PM, bnwtwg said: I’m curious based off age-group and NCAA results who some of the boom or bust prospects have been for the US. This would be most based on what we would expect for senior-level results based on dominance, not necessarily styles (you will know who/why in a quick minute). But think of it like fantasy football Some booms that come to mind are Lincoln MacIlravy, Jamil Kelly, Tervel Dlagnev, Joe Williams, and Stephen Neal for various big boom reasons Some busts are Dean Heil, TJ Williams, Eric Tannenbaum, Mike Poeta, CP Schlatter, Metcalf, and Ed Ruth The jury is still out but not looking dicey for current competitors such as Imar, Nickal, Oliver, Retherford, Nolf, and Joseph Your list of busts is terrible only the first two belong. Some of the others never wrestled international and if you made a world team you are not a bust much less if you made five of them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cradle1 239 Report post Posted November 11, 2020 Oops I saw that your first post and was so outraged I had to respond didn’t mean to pile on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whaletail 201 Report post Posted November 13, 2020 Was MacIlravy's senior level success that surprising (assuming I understand the OP's definition of boom)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 461 Report post Posted November 13, 2020 59 minutes ago, whaletail said: Was MacIlravy's senior level success that surprising (assuming I understand the OP's definition of boom)? He's not even sure. The idea of the list wasn't really to accurately define "boom." The idea was to trash people who didn't have great international careers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
