jerseywrestling 77 Report post Posted November 21 2003 NCAA Champions http://www.jerseywrestling.com/news.php?story=2003 NCAA Champions Taking it back to the NCAA champions and medalists of 2003! This class includes two of the most feared and most dominant upperweight wrestlers in New Jersey history! 2003 NCAA Champions 125 - Travis Lee, Cornell 133 - Johnny Thompson, Oklahoma State 141 - Teyon Ware, Oklahoma 149 - Eric Larkin, Arizona State 157 - Ryan Bertin, Michigan 165 - Matt Lackey, Illinois 174 - Robbie Waller, Oklahoma 184 - Jake Rosholt, Oklahoma State 197 - Damion Hahn, Minnesota 285 - Steve Mocco, Iowa Check out all the medalists! https://www.jerseywrestling.com/ncaa_medalists.php?year=2003 If anyone has the champions picture from another year, you can email it to support@jerseywrestling.com, and it will be added to the website! === Like and follow us on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/jerseywrestling/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,914 Report post Posted November 21 lamest topic ever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RealAmericanHero 86 Report post Posted November 23 Travis Lee (Cornell) - my first exposure to Cornell wrestling. Had they had a champion before him? If so, when? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,406 Report post Posted November 23 NCAA Champions for Cornell Click on Wrestler Name for Details Wrestler Career Record Win Pct Falls High School Dave Auble 1958-1960 51-1 98.08% 18 Ithaca, New York Frank Bettucci 1951-1953 50-3 94.34% 0 Ithaca, New York Don Dickason 1951-1953 31-11-2 72.73% 0 Champaign, Illinois David Hirsch 1991-1994 116-17 87.22% 0 Clarkstown South, New York Glenn Stafford 1927-1929 26-1 96.30% 0 Ithaca, New York 1 RealAmericanHero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RealAmericanHero 86 Report post Posted November 23 Wow. That's quite a drought. WTG, Travis! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,497 Report post Posted November 23 2 hours ago, RealAmericanHero said: Wow. That's quite a drought. WTG, Travis! Actually, the drought was between Auble(1960) and Hirsch(94). 34 years is a LOT longer than 9! 1 RealAmericanHero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTC 55 Report post Posted November 23 Jake Rosholt was huge! My first thought was why is the heavyweight in the middle? 1 nom reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim L 232 Report post Posted November 23 3 hours ago, gimpeltf said: NCAA Champions for Cornell Click on Wrestler Name for Details Wrestler Career Record Win Pct Falls High School Dave Auble 1958-1960 51-1 98.08% 18 Ithaca, New York Frank Bettucci 1951-1953 50-3 94.34% 0 Ithaca, New York Don Dickason 1951-1953 31-11-2 72.73% 0 Champaign, Illinois David Hirsch 1991-1994 116-17 87.22% 0 Clarkstown South, New York Glenn Stafford 1927-1929 26-1 96.30% 0 Ithaca, New York So David Hirsch won 116 matches without a single fall? I am assuming the other three are just did not have accurate records. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,406 Report post Posted November 23 16 minutes ago, Jim L said: So David Hirsch won 116 matches without a single fall? I am assuming the other three are just did not have accurate records. Was wondering the same although all of these were well before Boomer passed away leaving the more recent Lehigh and EIWA stats up to JDA. I don't think we've updated NCAA stats other than brackets since 2014. The Cornell HOF listing for him doesn't mention any falls but they didn't seem consistent with others in this regard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Mallard 104 Report post Posted November 23 3 hours ago, MSU158 said: 34 years is a LOT longer than 9! Hmmm, can someone verify this? 1 PASLP2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,497 Report post Posted November 23 52 minutes ago, Drake_Mallard said: Hmmm, can someone verify this? Maybe you should. Stop posting on here for 34 years and then let me know if it felt like a long time. After that, stop for another 9 and then compare. Please start RIGHT NOW! I will eagerly await your results. 1 1 dman115 and PASLP2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Mallard 104 Report post Posted November 23 1 hour ago, MSU158 said: Maybe you should. Stop posting on here for 34 years and then let me know if it felt like a long time. After that, stop for another 9 and then compare. Please start RIGHT NOW! I will eagerly await your results. I dont appreciate this tude. 1 PASLP2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,497 Report post Posted November 24 2 hours ago, Drake_Mallard said: I dont appreciate this tude. Just looking out for ya, bruh. You seemed genuinely interested in learning, so I gave you the best option to get the full learning experience! 2 Drake_Mallard and PASLP2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 541 Report post Posted November 24 11 hours ago, Jim L said: So David Hirsch won 116 matches without a single fall? I am assuming the other three are just did not have accurate records. He had 7 falls and 15 tech falls out of 112 wins (per the Cornell record book). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,406 Report post Posted November 24 6 hours ago, NJDan said: He had 7 falls and 15 tech falls out of 112 wins (per the Cornell record book). Interesting. It didn't occur to me to look in Boomer's version of Cornell stats. There he has 7 also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu1979 271 Report post Posted November 24 I was at this NCAA tournament and my 2 strongest memories from it are the two heartbreaking losses for Lehigh wrestlers. Jon Trenge lost on a TD to Hahn in the last couple of seconds in the finals. It was a great match and it seemed that Trenge had it won. Really clutch performance by Hahn. Earlier in the Semi Finals Brad Dillon lost to Waller in a very controversial manner. The match had gone to the 30 second tiebreaker with Dillon on the bottom. At one point Brad was kicking across the mat like crazy with Waller barely holding on to his foot when it appeared he had escaped. Dillon actually thought he had won at that point. but the ref said he had blown it dead as a stalemate. The ref called another stalemate again when Waller was hanging on a leg. That should have been a stalling call and Waller had already been warned. I know I am biased as a Lehigh fan and alum but I always thought that was one of the worst calls I have ever seen at nationals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,578 Report post Posted November 24 That Dillon vs Waller match IIRC is a big reason why the OT & tiebreaker rules changed, including how they called the stalemates and stalling in rideouts. Though my memory isn't what it used to be... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 1,631 Report post Posted November 24 2 hours ago, Gantry said: That Dillon vs Waller match IIRC is a big reason why the OT & tiebreaker rules changed, including how they called the stalemates and stalling in rideouts. Though my memory isn't what it used to be... I always reference this match as the impetus for the rule change. A lot of data probably backed up the change, but this was the most visible example. Or as some call it, "The Waller Rule." 1 Gantry reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konquest 96 Report post Posted November 24 On 11/23/2020 at 10:52 AM, BTC said: Jake Rosholt was huge! My first thought was why is the heavyweight in the middle? It looks that way because he has a huge head. And I say this with the complete acknowledgement that he could end my life 50 different ways with his bare hands. 1 RealAmericanHero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTC 55 Report post Posted November 25 12 hours ago, Konquest said: It looks that way because he has a huge head. And I say this with the complete acknowledgement that he could end my life 50 different ways with his bare hands. Idk man his shoulders are clearly above Hahns and appear to be above Moccos as well. But yes his head is giant also. I also say that with the acknowledgment that he could fold me up like a piece of origami. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu1979 271 Report post Posted November 25 On 11/24/2020 at 9:52 AM, Gantry said: That Dillon vs Waller match IIRC is a big reason why the OT & tiebreaker rules changed, including how they called the stalemates and stalling in rideouts. Though my memory isn't what it used to be... You can rewatch the match on you tube. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMardigain 1,222 Report post Posted November 26 Year when Upper-weights had some of the marquee the names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedicineMan 419 Report post Posted November 27 On 11/24/2020 at 8:52 AM, Gantry said: That Dillon vs Waller match IIRC is a big reason why the OT & tiebreaker rules changed, including how they called the stalemates and stalling in rideouts. Though my memory isn't what it used to be... On 11/24/2020 at 10:56 AM, JasonBryant said: I always reference this match as the impetus for the rule change. A lot of data probably backed up the change, but this was the most visible example. Or as some call it, "The Waller Rule." What were the rules back then? Sudden victory in first OT? Then Sudden Victory in 2nd OT period based on scoring or riding out? Plus it looks like dropping down to ankle was called stalemate after 4 seconds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu1979 271 Report post Posted November 27 34 minutes ago, MedicineMan said: What were the rules back then? Sudden victory in first OT? Then Sudden Victory in 2nd OT period based on scoring or riding out? Plus it looks like dropping down to ankle was called stalemate after 4 seconds? I am very sure that the rules then said the 1st time you dropped to an ankle it was supposed to be a stalemate and the 2nd time a stalling call. As Waller was already called for stalling for failure to return Dillon while on their feet a stalling call would have given the win to Dillon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schuteandscore 53 Report post Posted November 27 25 minutes ago, lu1979 said: I am very sure that the rules then said the 1st time you dropped to an ankle it was supposed to be a stalemate and the 2nd time a stalling call. As Waller was already called for stalling for failure to return Dillon while on their feet a stalling call would have given the win to Dillon. I am pretty sure but feel like that rule came later. I was wrestling college at the time and that rule I thought came after I had graduated, but my memory is fuzzy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
