1032004 931 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 He’s not going 86 this year. I think Askren’s speculation was about 2024 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 803 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 Taylor has three inches of height and will effectively have 15 pounds on JB. Burroughs wins by the same margin as always. More like 5 or 6 inches and at least 20 lbs. I would think. Burroughs was 178 for Valencia and I have to believe Taylor is usually at least 200 before cutting down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jross 400 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 7 hours ago, VakAttack said: Ballsy for Taylor. No-win situation for him, honestly. Even if he techs Burroughs, it's mostly expected apparently. Pride and money are compelling reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Le duke 132 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) I get the feeling that DT and JB get along better than their twitter spat indicates. That said, I don't necessarily agree with JB that Zahid is the #2 guy at 86kg. I also don't agree with the "no one can push me around". Uh, that's why weight classes exist; Kyle Snyder will push you around. Abdulrashid Sadulaev will push you around. Sorry. And, I'd rather see a DT vs Snyder or DT vs Sadulaev matchup. Great quote: DT: "If I was worried about a loss I had six years ago, I wouldn't be able to perform the way that I do now." JB: "Yeah. That's true." Edited December 11, 2020 by Le duke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Le duke said: I get the feeling that DT and JB get along better than their twitter spat indicates. I really doubt it, these guys are competitive, and I think what they say on Twitter reflects absolutely zero as to what they think of each other.... Anyway Burroughs is getting teched. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,621 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 JB gets actually mad about fantasy picks... this is real for him whether it should be or not... ill take sincere angst against someone trying to make up for past beat downs any day of the week and twice on sundays... the smarmy one is about to get a life lesson... again... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,674 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, IronChef said: More like 5 or 6 inches and at least 20 lbs. I would think. Burroughs was 178 for Valencia and I have to believe Taylor is usually at least 200 before cutting down. They have to make scratch a few hours before the match, so I hope it is a 20 pound difference. He'll be sluggish and Burroughs cat-like quick!. Burroughs is 5'8" or 5'9". I have seen Taylor around. He is not over 6 feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Le duke 132 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: They have to make scratch a few hours before the match, so I hope it is a 20 pound difference. He'll be sluggish and Burroughs cat-like quick!. Burroughs is 5'8" or 5'9". I have seen Taylor around. He is not over 6 feet. JB is 5'7", DT is 6'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 931 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: I really doubt it, these guys are competitive, and I think what they say on Twitter reflects absolutely zero as to what they think of each other.... Anyway Burroughs is getting teched. Only watched the first few minutes so far but seems like they get along. Dake may be a different story for JB though IMO... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: Only watched the first few minutes so far but seems like they get along. Dake may be a different story for JB though IMO... Do you think Cael hates anyone? (not named nevills) 1 JHRoseWrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 671 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 51 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: I really doubt it, these guys are competitive, and I think what they say on Twitter reflects absolutely zero as to what they think of each other.... Anyway Burroughs is getting teched. Crazy. Even when Burroughs has lost it's been by a point or two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 546 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 Cool interview. Nice respect for each other. Two world class hammers. 2 Yellow_Medal and Housebuye reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NJDan said: Crazy. Even when Burroughs has lost it's been by a point or two. I'll back track a little, but I'll take Taylor -4.5 or give me 3/1 on the tech. 10$ Edited December 11, 2020 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 671 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: I'll back track a little, but I'll take Taylor -4.5 or give me 3/1 on the tech. 10$ You want me to give you 3:1 on a tech. Didn't you just predict a tech flat out? If you give me four points I will take JB on a $10 bet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, NJDan said: You want me to give you 3:1 on a tech. Didn't you just predict a tech flat out? If you give me four points I will take JB on a $10 bet. Ok so I get Taylor -4? Sure. And don't be absurd, I think out bets more than posts on this stupid forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 671 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: Ok so I get Taylor -4? Sure. And don't be absurd, I think out bets more than posts on this stupid forum. Done 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 671 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 Taylor is bigger and stronger, but also slower and not as slick as he was in college. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Le duke 132 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NJDan said: Taylor is bigger and stronger, but also slower and not as slick as he was in college. In college, he also wasn't a world champion who has beaten Yazdani twice. Edited December 11, 2020 by Le duke 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, NJDan said: Taylor is bigger and stronger, but also slower and not as slick as he was in college. Taylor is likely at his peak, Burroughs has had to adjust his style for years even before his last world title. He is far from his best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 671 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Le duke said: In college, he also wasn't a world champion who has beaten Yazdani twice. Good point. But I also don't see him being stronger than JB even at a higher weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Also, we know who is gonna get tired. Burroughs has to go out to a lead and hang on. That's no insult btw, burroughs is gonna be smaller and his motion/sprint style more difficult than handfighting. Edited December 11, 2020 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 671 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: Also, we know who is gonna get tired. Burroughs has to go out to a lead and hang on. That's no insult btw, burroughs is gonna be smaller and his motion/sprint style more difficult than handfighting. Wait. Who do we know is going to get tired? Neither of these guys ever gets tired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, NJDan said: Wait. Who do we know is going to get tired? Neither of these guys ever gets tired. Burroughs gets tired. He got beat off the same shot that he knew as coming both times by Sidakov 2 years in a row, thats fatigue or incompetence. Geduev wore him out....if he was in such great shape he wouldn't have to brag on his sprint so often. I'm not saying he quits, but he's diminished by the end of the match. Edited December 11, 2020 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver 15 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 Have they said where this will happen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 931 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, silver said: Have they said where this will happen? I think they said “the Austin area” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
