Sustainability of these purse matches ?

[alliseeisgold 78]

with willie saying taylor/jb purse is about half a mill.... - how many more people are subscribing to flowrestling just for these matches for them to recoup this near million dollar payout to wrestlers this year ?

just my opinion the real wrestling fans were already signed up before these matches. I don't see how they are making money.

 

 

 

[Wrestleknownothing 386]

No idea about the numbers, but they are also saving money on broadcast rights, travel and the like. They have to spend that savings on original content or they lose all their revenue. 

Edited December 19, 2020 by Wrestleknownothing

[GreatWhiteNorth 168]

I anticipate we'll see a larger advertising presence for the JB/DT match in January than we've seen up until now.

[Wrestleknownothing 386]

9 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

I anticipate we'll see a larger advertising presence for the JB/DT match in January than we've seen up until now.

Good point. I found it interesting last night that when I had it full screen and a commercial would come on the typical sound controls would not work. If I muted, the mute only lasted a few seconds before the sound would return. If i wanted to keep it muted, I had to re-mute every few seconds. Interesting use of technology to over ride the user's wishes and force the commercial down his throat. I anticipate more of this kind of behavior. 

[NJDan 589]

5 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Good point. I found it interesting last night that when I had it full screen and a commercial would come on the typical sound controls would not work. If I muted, the mute only lasted a few seconds before the sound would return. If i wanted to keep it muted, I had to re-mute every few seconds. Interesting use of technology to over ride the user's wishes and force the commercial down his throat. I anticipate more of this kind of behavior. 

Muting the sound at the computer level works.

[Wrestleknownothing 386]

7 minutes ago, NJDan said:

Muting the sound at the computer level works.

Thanks, NJDan, I did do that eventually,  but I found the cynicism of having a mute button that was really just a few seconds of mute button equal parts fascinating and annoying. 

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6 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Thanks, NJDan, I did do that eventually,  but I found the cynicism of having a mute button that was really just a few seconds of mute button equal parts fascinating and annoying. 

Are you saying that mute was moot?

[Wrestleknownothing 386]

14 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

Are you saying that mute was moot?

Yes, and whoever programmed the moot mute is a mutt.

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1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Yes, and whoever programmed the moot mute is a mutt.

You didn't muff that.

 

 

[Eagle26 441]

Wow if the purse is that high, I can’t imagine it being profitable unless they are getting donors to make it happen? Maybe they will offer a pay per view option for JB vs DT? That may pay off. I am enjoying these so I hope they are sustainable!

[nhs67 1,069]

Flo will get a serious influx of international subs for the DT/JB match.

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with willie saying taylor/jb purse is about half a mill.... - how many more people are subscribing to flowrestling just for these matches for them to recoup this near million dollar payout to wrestlers this year ?
just my opinion the real wrestling fans were already signed up before these matches. I don't see how they are making money.
 
 
 

I've not seen how the amount was stated, but the purse typically refers to the total payout, not individual payout. That doesn't answer your question but does decrease the cost significantly (though still a large sum) if that is the case.

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11 hours ago, alliseeisgold said:

with willie saying taylor/jb purse is about half a mill.... - how many more people are subscribing to flowrestling just for these matches for them to recoup this near million dollar payout to wrestlers this year ?

just my opinion the real wrestling fans were already signed up before these matches. I don't see how they are making money.

 

 

 

They have 500,000 subscribers across all sports. Not bad scratch considering each is paying a minimum of $120 a year. 

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5 hours ago, Eagle26 said:

Wow if the purse is that high, I can’t imagine it being profitable unless they are getting donors to make it happen? Maybe they will offer a pay per view option for JB vs DT? That may pay off. I am enjoying these so I hope they are sustainable!

They got donors in the form of the government and a PPP loan right?

[NJDan 589]

I'd be surprised if the $500K number is real.

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25 minutes ago, NJDan said:

I'd be surprised if the $500K number is real.

JB got a 200k deal for three bouts.

I doubt 500k is accurate as well.

[Lurker 1,397]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

JB got a 200k deal for three bouts.

I doubt 500k is accurate as well.

Where did you see this?

(not saying I don’t believe you I just like to look things up)

[NJDan 589]

38 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Where did you see this?

(not saying I don’t believe you I just like to look things up)

I will say it: I don't believe you.

[Lurker 1,397]

20 minutes ago, NJDan said:

I will say it: I don't believe you.

You don’t believe I like to look things up?

[nhs67 1,069]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

Where did you see this?

(not saying I don’t believe you I just like to look things up)

Just like Flo sid their damndest to remove the proof of Bahjrang getting the 15k just to show, they also did their diligence of removing this proof.

JB-DT was set to happen on Rokfin for NLWC and then they threw 200k at JB for exclusivity.

Cael is/was pissed, but I bet Bajhrang doubles their subscriptions here in a few days.

Mineo, who also has a copy of Bahjrang's guaranteed 15k to show contract, was citing it in his Facebook group.

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21 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Just like Flo sid their damndest to remove the proof of Bahjrang getting the 15k just to show, they also did their diligence of removing this proof.

JB-DT was set to happen on Rokfin for NLWC and then they threw 200k at JB for exclusivity.

Cael is/was pissed, but I bet Bajhrang doubles their subscriptions here in a few days.

Mineo, who also has a copy of Bahjrang's guaranteed 15k to show contract, was citing it in his Facebook group.

I’m not too sure I’d take what the minnow says and run with it as gospel...

Ive been searching for any hint of this deal from flo and finding absolutely nothing. Of course doesn’t mean something is not out there, but if the minnow is the source, I mean....

Edited December 19, 2020 by Lurker

[Wrestleknownothing 386]

What Willie said on his podcast was they each get up to 250k. Then he walked that back a bit, saying JB actually got a little more than DT. Then he said there were a lot of contingencies like it was a multi-match deal (assuming not all of those are between JB and DT), and that there were viewership minimums. 

[Jaroslav Hasek 1,890]

Bajrang got a $750 travel stipend because he was flying in from India rather than taking a domestic flight. neither he nor anyone else got anything besides the very publicly disclosed prize money for the 8-man bracket. aAnyone who says they have proof of Bajrang getting an extra $15K just to show is lying.

Glad Bajrang is making the most of his tour of the states and hope he is getting remunerated well for his match against Zain. Very happy that Flo was able to give him a reason to travel and that wrestling fans will get another world level match out of it!

I'm also not privy to the DT and JB contracts so can't comment there. that's all done above my pay grade. 

[Wrestleknownothing 386]

1 hour ago, Jaroslav Hasek said:

Bajrang got a $750 travel stipend because he was flying in from India rather than taking a domestic flight. neither he nor anyone else got anything besides the very publicly disclosed prize money for the 8-man bracket. aAnyone who says they have proof of Bajrang getting an extra $15K just to show is lying.

Glad Bajrang is making the most of his tour of the states and hope he is getting remunerated well for his match against Zain. Very happy that Flo was able to give him a reason to travel and that wrestling fans will get another world level match out of it!

I'm also not privy to the DT and JB contracts so can't comment there. that's all done above my pay grade. 

We are going to need to see your bank statements. 

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Back to the OP’s question. This is ONLY sustainable for as long as college wrestling is strongly effected by the pandemic. 
 

When there is no wrestling, this is much better than nothing. Once fans can start following their teams again, freestyle will fall firmly back to where it has always been in terms of fan viewership.