Mphillips 1,654 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Fletcher said: Somehow Askren's the underdog. I don't see how he loses - personal pride and base level cardio should be enough to get Askren the win. Just debating on whether to bet the straight-up win vs. the higher payout TKO. 100 to win 475 seems like a great bet? You've just about talked me into it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 1,091 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mphillips said: 100 to win 475 seems like a great bet? You've just about talked me into it. I may be misstating this - I'm not exactly a veteran gambler. I think the $475 payout may include the initial $100 bet? So a $100 bet nets $375? I'm gonna split the baby and bet half on a win and half on a KO/TKO. Funny that I'm interested enough to bet on this fight, but not interested enough to spend $50 to watch the PPV. 1 Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,654 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fletcher said: I may be misstating this - I'm not exactly a veteran gambler. I think the $475 payout may include the initial $100 bet? So a $100 bet nets $375? I'm gonna split the baby and bet half on a win and half on a KO/TKO. Funny that I'm interested enough to bet on this fight, but not interested enough to spend $50 to watch the PPV. I understood your post to mean 100 for 375. I just didn't want to misquote you. I agree with the, "interested" part. It seems easier to bet on it than it is to watch it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripNSweep 735 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Fletcher said: OK guys - I need your help. DraftKings says if I bet on Askren to get a KO, TKO or DQ, then $100 bet pays out at $475. Should I do it? I got $100 on him to win at +160. I also took him to win in the 7th at +3300. 2 Fletcher and stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ohio Elite 6 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 Askrens not getting any PPV points for this fight. Anybody who can find a link to a free stream, let us know. I would hate to give Jake Paul a dime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMardigain 1,594 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, NJDan said: Is that really the number? Also, does anyone know how he chose Askren for an opponent. I mean, it's not as if Askren is all that famous (or is he?) I think Paul was looking for someone with a mouth that he could: A. Use to help sell the fight. B. Had some MMA experience in a known organization, hopefully UFC, so if he did win he could use it to sell himself in any future publicity and other fighting events. But, it also had to be a MMA fighter with very piss pour striking ability. There are only a few fighters that fit both descriptions at his weight range because rarely does someone make it to high level MMA without at least an OK striking game. Trying to target Dillon Danis seemed logical. He is quite a mouthpiece, had subpar boxing since he’s mostly been BBJ player, and has a training link to Connor McGregor. I’m sure Paul would have loved to have McGregor interject himself into comment on the bout to help sell it. After Danis declined Askren seemed like another logical choice. Ben loves the banter of the preflight buildup. He had a great MMA record and was in the UFC until just recently, which for those not closely following MMA they would makes Ben a big time threat for the fight. But in reality he’s had minimal and really pour striking technique in his fights. He is coming off a layoff and surgery. He was basically retired. All things that would give Paul hope he could possibly win and then promote himself to the media/fans as the guy that beat a solid MMA fighter. Sure, Ben is a solid MMA fighter but not in striking as many people on the outside would just assume. On the other hand Paul wouldn’t go after anyone from the UFC with more well rounded striking because he wouldn’t have a punchers chance. He wouldn’t start by calling on guys from really low MMA organization cause that wouldn’t sell the fight. Though it might have came to that though if a bigger fish didn’t bit. Nor would he get a UFC guy like Mia because Damion had been nothing but humble so he’s not the preflight mouthpiece nor likely interested in a publicity stunt based striking when he knows he’s bad at it. Edited April 16, 2021 by MadMardigain 2 lost and DBHoops reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,107 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MadMardigain said: I think Paul was looking for someone with a mouth that he could: A. Use to help sell the fight. B. Had some MMA experience in a known organization, hopefully UFC, so if he did win he could use it to sell himself in any future publicity and other fighting events. But, it also had to be a MMA fighter with very piss pour striking ability. There are only a few fighters that fit both descriptions because rarely does someone make it to high level MMA without a OK striking game. Trying to target Dillon Danis seemed logical. He is quite a mouthpiece, had subpar boxing since he’s mostly been BBJ player, and has a training link to Connor McGregor. I’m sure Paul would have loved to have McGregor interject himself into comment on the bout to help sell it. After Danis declined Askren seemed like another logical choice. Ben loves the banter of the preflight buildup. He had a great MMA record and was in the UFC until just recently, which for those not closely following MMA they would makes Ben a big time threat for the fight. But in reality he’s had minimal and really pour striking technique in his fights. He is coming off a layoff and surgery. He was basically retired. All things that would give Paul hope he could possibly win and then promote himself to the media/fans as the guy that beat a solid MMA fighter. Sure, Ben is a solid MMA fighter but not in striking as many people on the outside would just assume. On the other hand Paul wouldn’t go after anyone from the UFC with more well rounded striking because he wouldn’t have a punchers chance. He wouldn’t start by calling on guys from really low MMA organization cause that wouldn’t sell the fight. Though it might have came to that though if a bigger fish didn’t bit. Nor would he get a UFC guy like Mia because Damion had been nothing but humble so he’s not the preflight mouthpiece nor likely interested in a publicity stunt based striking when he knows he’s bad at it. Askren moved to UFC, but he was a punching bag when he got there. He had all his success in the Junior Varsity level Bellator. Who better for Paul to challenge? Edited April 16, 2021 by TobusRex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,058 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, MadMardigain said: I think Paul was looking for someone with a mouth that he could: A. Use to help sell the fight. B. Had some MMA experience in a known organization, hopefully UFC, so if he did win he could use it to sell himself in any future publicity and other fighting events. But, it also had to be a MMA fighter with very piss pour striking ability. There are only a few fighters that fit both descriptions at his weight range because rarely does someone make it to high level MMA without at least an OK striking game. Trying to target Dillon Danis seemed logical. He is quite a mouthpiece, had subpar boxing since he’s mostly been BBJ player, and has a training link to Connor McGregor. I’m sure Paul would have loved to have McGregor interject himself into comment on the bout to help sell it. After Danis declined Askren seemed like another logical choice. Ben loves the banter of the preflight buildup. He had a great MMA record and was in the UFC until just recently, which for those not closely following MMA they would makes Ben a big time threat for the fight. But in reality he’s had minimal and really pour striking technique in his fights. He is coming off a layoff and surgery. He was basically retired. All things that would give Paul hope he could possibly win and then promote himself to the media/fans as the guy that beat a solid MMA fighter. Sure, Ben is a solid MMA fighter but not in striking as many people on the outside would just assume. On the other hand Paul wouldn’t go after anyone from the UFC with more well rounded striking because he wouldn’t have a punchers chance. He wouldn’t start by calling on guys from really low MMA organization cause that wouldn’t sell the fight. Though it might have came to that though if a bigger fish didn’t bit. Nor would he get a UFC guy like Mia because Damion had been nothing but humble so he’s not the preflight mouthpiece nor likely interested in a publicity stunt based striking when he knows he’s bad at it. So what you are saying, in the old fight jargon, is that Askren is a tomato can, or at least Paul thinks so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMardigain 1,594 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, NJDan said: So what you are saying, in the old fight jargon, is that Askren is a tomato can, or at least Paul thinks so. Yea I’d say in Paul’s crews eyes he is with the added benefit of being good for promoting the fight. Hopefully Askren has developed some solid strike defense and can wear Paul down after the first few rounds of flurries. Would like nothing more than to see Paul dying in the ring with Askren able to actually mount a decent striking offense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,218 Report post Posted April 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, MadMardigain said: Yea I’d say in Paul’s crews eyes he is with the added benefit of being good for promoting the fight. Hopefully Askren has developed some solid strike defense and can wear Paul down after the first few rounds of flurries. Would like nothing more than to see Paul dying in the ring with Askren able to actually mount a decent striking offense. I think Paul's exhaustion is the likely outcome. Whether Askren can deliver a KO on a guy that can't move or raise his hands in defence is the question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie 1,076 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 I will not be watching, but I noticed a report saying that Paul will be earning $690k, and Askren will be earning $500k. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnklePicker 643 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 Gotta love Ben. God I hope he wins this fight. Paul has a lot of height on him. I say cover up for three rounds. Get him tired then go after it. 1 dman115 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripNSweep 735 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Ohio Elite said: Askrens not getting any PPV points for this fight. Anybody who can find a link to a free stream, let us know. I would hate to give Jake Paul a dime. V i p l e a g u e dot LC 1 Ohio Elite reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stp 564 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Ohio Elite said: Askrens not getting any PPV points for this fight. Anybody who can find a link to a free stream, let us know. I would hate to give Jake Paul a dime. Search Youtube right when it starts. 1 Ohio Elite reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,417 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Katie said: I will not be watching, but I noticed a report saying that Paul will be earning $690k, and Askren will be earning $500k. That’s is guerenteed comp. Askren would get a significant win bonus and Paul gets PPV points+Win bonus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drew87 349 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 6 hours ago, AnklePicker said: Gotta love Ben. God I hope he wins this fight. Paul has a lot of height on him. I say cover up for three rounds. Get him tired then go after it. Ben Askren, unapologetically rocking the dad bod to a lot of impressive victories...and shameless defeats, since ~2010. Just goes to show that a pound is in fact not always equal to a pound, that dude just moves differently. I wonder how his hip will impact things, if at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dman115 512 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 Is it sad that I think he looks ripped?? 1 5 Plasmodium, Jim L, madcat11 and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,058 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 FWIW, this article say Ben is getting $500K, not one million, guaranteed. https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/4/16/22388039/jake-paul-vs-ben-askren-salaries-released Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,406 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 15 hours ago, TobusRex said: Askren moved to UFC, but he was a punching bag when he got there. He had all his success in the Junior Varsity level Bellator. Who better for Paul to challenge? He did beat Lawler even though it was controversial (and managed to stay conscious himself proving that he could take “varsity” punches). And I believe the Maia fight was close. People are really putting too much emphasis on one nasty knee from Masvidal. Askren was a legit fighter. If anything the complaint should be about how he was retired and coming off hip surgery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie 1,076 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Housebuye said: That’s is guerenteed comp. Askren would get a significant win bonus and Paul gets PPV points+Win bonus Wow. That’s a lot of money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestleFan12 24 Report post Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 2:25 PM, Fletcher said: I may be misstating this - I'm not exactly a veteran gambler. I think the $475 payout may include the initial $100 bet? So a $100 bet nets $375? If you lose, you are out the $100. If you win, you owe nothing (or get back the $100 if you pay up front), and you get $475. So, your net is the full $475. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 515 Report post Posted April 18, 2021 this undercard is the saddest shhhhhhhhhh i've ever seen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawkfan69 4 Report post Posted April 18, 2021 Anyone have a link? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,107 Report post Posted April 18, 2021 12 hours ago, 1032004 said: He did beat Lawler even though it was controversial (and managed to stay conscious himself proving that he could take “varsity” punches). And I believe the Maia fight was close. People are really putting too much emphasis on one nasty knee from Masvidal. Askren was a legit fighter. If anything the complaint should be about how he was retired and coming off hip surgery. Well my point is Askren was never a top shelf guy or he'd have been in UFC hammering guys. His punching skills are weak, and his match vs the youtube guy is nothing but boxing. I wouldn't be surprised if he lost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Mallard 371 Report post Posted April 18, 2021 22 hours ago, AnklePicker said: Gotta love Ben. God I hope he wins this fight. Paul has a lot of height on him. I say cover up for three rounds. Get him tired then go after it. Set your eyes on the body of a world class athlete ladies and gentlemen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites