The_MO_Godfather 38 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 Best guess at Mizzou’s lineup after the Black & Gold. Very exciting to have such a young team of studs! Thoughts? 125: Connor Brown 133: Matt Schmitt 141: Allan Hart 149: Brock Mauller 157: Keegan O’Toole 165: Peyton Mocco (can Jacques beat Mocco?) 174: Jeremiah Kent 184: Colton Hawks 197: Rocky Elam Hwt: Zack Elam 1 1 mlbruem and gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STLBOY 4 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 This is going to be one of their better teams in a long time. They are very solid from top to bottom and being so young, only going to get better. Future is looking bright for the Tigers! 2 mlbruem and gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,079 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 Jacques and Otoole are supposed to be fighting it out for a starting spot I think at 165. Not sure where Mocco fits in. I was high on him coming in, but he hasn’t been amazing (yet) 1 gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,079 Report post Posted December 28, 2020 I think Mauller and both Elams are very likely to AA. Otoole, Hart and maybe Brown could sneak on the podium too. Mizzou is always fun to follow. They always randomly have a guy or two come out of nowhere. They don’t always AA, but they are good for some upsets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gallison 39 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 Love the projected lineup and excited for the season the get started! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 764 Report post Posted December 29, 2020 Where was Kent for wrestle offs? Is Villalpando redshirting? I was surprised he knocked off Harman in the wrestle off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 Is it possible we see Jacques take the 165 slot and Mocco challenge Kent up at 174? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 I just got a feeling we're going to see a lot of toons wrestling away from their optimal weight classes this year, since it's a free year. Not just Mizzou but NCAA-wide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlbruem 130 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 11 hours ago, Idaho said: Where was Kent for wrestle offs? Is Villalpando redshirting? I was surprised he knocked off Harman in the wrestle off. Wrestle offs were an who is #2 event - most of the starters did not wrestle 1 1 gallison and Idaho reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlbruem 130 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 Here is wrestlestats dual comparison and prediction for the North Dakota St match Dual Comparison Missouri vs North Dakota State | WrestleStat Same for South Dakota State Match Dual Comparison Missouri vs South Dakota State | WrestleStat Again for Oregon State Dual Comparison Missouri vs Oregon State | WrestleStat 1 gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,576 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 DId Grant Leeth transfer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_MO_Godfather 38 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Plasmodium said: DId Grant Leeth transfer? Hung up his shoes... 1 Plasmodium reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XiXiTiger 23 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 Sounds like O’Toole will be at 157 if he beats Jacques (I think he will). He wrestled 70kg at juniors and, per FRL, B Smith indicated it will be Jacques or O’Toole. 2 Housebuye and gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 764 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, mlbruem said: Here is wrestlestats dual comparison and prediction for the North Dakota St match Dual Comparison Missouri vs North Dakota State | WrestleStat Same for South Dakota State Match Dual Comparison Missouri vs South Dakota State | WrestleStat Again for Oregon State Dual Comparison Missouri vs Oregon State | WrestleStat The Oregon state lineup could look very different than wrestle stats projection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gallison 39 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 It'll be fun watching Rocky Elam and O'Toole rise up the weight class rankings this season. 2 Housebuye and XiXiTiger reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,079 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, gallison said: It'll be fun watching Rocky Elam and O'Toole rise up the weight class rankings this season. I think both AA. I also think going into NCAAs, they will be seeded top 5 (assuming they’re hit ranked guys this season) 1 gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 764 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 Seeding will be interesting this year given only 10-15 matches this year with the conference. Isn't the match minimum like 3-4? I know it was posted in a another thread. The classic "Ducking" threads will be even more prevalent this season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_MO_Godfather 38 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 13 hours ago, mlbruem said: Here is wrestlestats dual comparison and prediction for the North Dakota St match Dual Comparison Missouri vs North Dakota State | WrestleStat Same for South Dakota State Match Dual Comparison Missouri vs South Dakota State | WrestleStat Again for Oregon State Dual Comparison Missouri vs Oregon State | WrestleStat Curious about your thoughts on the lineup since you’re an insider, if you don’t mind sharing... 1 gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stl 51 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 My guess at the lineup: 125- Connor Brown (we could see some other guys wrestle here depending on how difficult it is for Brown to make 125 all season, even with it being shortened) 133- Matt Schmitt 141- Allan Hart/Josh Edmond (Hart won the scrimmage, but the match was close. So I think there could be some interchangeability here) 149- Brock Mauller 157- Keegan O'Toole (I don't have any inside info, but I have a hard time thinking that if O'Toole wasn't beating Jacques he wouldn't be bulking up to 165) 165- Jarrett Jacques (If Jacques doesn't hold down the 157 spot, I think he bumps up and takes the spot from Mocco) 174- Jeremiah Kent 184- Colton Hawks/Canten Marriott (Hawks won the scrimmage, but the match was close. So I think there could be some interchangeability here) 197- Rocky Elam 285- Zach Elam I think that best case scenario, Mizzou has 6 AA's, with 1 title contender (Mauller). Most realistically, we're looking at 4 AA's, but who knows with this season which will be very unpredictable. 3 mlbruem, Housebuye and gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 My guess at what the lineup will look like, with no injuries, come MACs: 125: Brown 133: Schmitt 141: Edmond-Rumor is the Edmond is nursing an injury and wrestled anyways. If he gets healthy, I think he wins the spot by conferences) 149: Mauller 157: O'Toole-This guy has the moxxy to win 157 this year. Yes I know that means beating Deakin and Hidlay. 165/174: Jacques/Mocco-I think the winner between the two takes 165 and the other ends up going up. Keep in mind that both of these guys have been wrestling 74kg for freestyle, so 174 isn't too out of the question for them. 184: Kent-Rumblings are that they know Kent at 184 this year is what is best for the team. That doesn't mean he won't drop to 174 next season. 197: Elam 285: Elam I think that lineup could get them 8-10 qualifiers this year, providing they still bring 33 to NCAAs(how many are they bringing, btw?). I also think this lineup easily wins the MAC. 3 gallison, mlbruem and XiXiTiger reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XiXiTiger 23 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Housebuye said: I think both AA. I also think going into NCAAs, they will be seeded top 5 (assuming they’re hit ranked guys this season) I agree and it looks like both guys will face enough top guys to have a strong resume. O'Toole should hit Franek (NDSU) this weekend and Carr (ISU) and Teemer (ASU) on Jan 17th. He'd also have Sheets (OkSt) and Dellavecchia (Rider; twice including MACs) later in the season. Depending on the ranking service, that's 2 guys in the top 5 and 3 more in the top 15. Elam should get Noah Adams (WVU), Tanner Sloan (SDSU; this weekend), Bulsak (Clarion at MACs), Norfleet (ASU), Coleman (ISU), and Holschlag (UNI). The number 1 guy, another top 7 guy, and 4 more in the top 15. Hopefully it doesn't happen, but COVID or injury will probably cause some of these guys to miss each other. On the flip side, maybe there will be fewer 'ducks' to protect seed with so few available matches. 4 gallison, nhs67, Housebuye and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlefan1 0 Report post Posted January 1 what happened to myers at hvy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,079 Report post Posted January 1 On 12/30/2020 at 12:54 PM, nhs67 said: My guess at what the lineup will look like, with no injuries, come MACs: 125: Brown 133: Schmitt 141: Edmond-Rumor is the Edmond is nursing an injury and wrestled anyways. If he gets healthy, I think he wins the spot by conferences) 149: Mauller 157: O'Toole-This guy has the moxxy to win 157 this year. Yes I know that means beating Deakin and Hidlay. 165/174: Jacques/Mocco-I think the winner between the two takes 165 and the other ends up going up. Keep in mind that both of these guys have been wrestling 74kg for freestyle, so 174 isn't too out of the question for them. 184: Kent-Rumblings are that they know Kent at 184 this year is what is best for the team. That doesn't mean he won't drop to 174 next season. 197: Elam 285: Elam I think that lineup could get them 8-10 qualifiers this year, providing they still bring 33 to NCAAs(how many are they bringing, btw?). I also think this lineup easily wins the MAC. 74kg is 163. I don’t think Jacques or Mocco are close to big enough for 174. In this thread I said I think OToole AAs, but he isn’t winning it. He is a true freshman. Carr’s finishes are too quick, and Hidlay and Deakin are way too big and powerful for Otoole right now. He is a kid still. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_MO_Godfather 38 Report post Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Housebuye said: 74kg is 163. I don’t think Jacques or Mocco are close to big enough for 174. In this thread I said I think OToole AAs, but he isn’t winning it. He is a true freshman. Carr’s finishes are too quick, and Hidlay and Deakin are way too big and powerful for Otoole right now. He is a kid still. So was Kyle Dake... 1 Housebuye reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bronco 138 Report post Posted January 1 On 12/28/2020 at 9:58 AM, The_MO_Godfather said: Best guess at Mizzou’s lineup after the Black & Gold. Very exciting to have such a young team of studs! Thoughts? 125: Connor Brown 133: Matt Schmitt 141: Allan Hart 149: Brock Mauller 157: Keegan O’Toole 165: Peyton Mocco (can Jacques beat Mocco?) 174: Jeremiah Kent 184: Colton Hawks 197: Rocky Elam Hwt: Zack Elam With the Missouri lineup you cited here WrestleStat projects the Jan. 17th dual vs Arizona State with ASU winning 25-14 over Missouri. https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/dual/4/arizona-state/43/missouri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
