VakAttack 3,131 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 There's been some extensive discussion about Lee for weeks, and on FRL today Kerk's name was thrown in, also. @andegre or somebody they identified as wrestlestat said that neither would be in the line up, while the FRL guys seemed to think both would be. I can't imagine a reason why either guy would not be in the lineup, but there's been a lot of smoke about Lee specifically (and Evan Wick) and was wondering if anybody had heard anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,710 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) The proverbial "someone" (legit can't remember who) posted on the PSU board that Lee wasn't currently in the student directory and Kerk was. That's all I got... Edited December 30, 2020 by Gantry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 933 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 I just listened to FRL and came here to see if it was being discussed. I hadn't heard that before. Apparently Lee in particular said something about taking an ORS in this interview - https://www.rokfin.com/post/22434/Marky-Mark-and-the-Golden-Bear-Draft-Show-Ep-1-with-Guests-Nick-Lee-and-Vincenzo-Joseph But seems like several posters on BWI are still thinking he will be in the lineup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 793 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 There's been some extensive discussion about Lee for weeks, and on FRL today Kerk's name was thrown in, also. @andegre or somebody they identified as wrestlestat said that neither would be in the line up, while the FRL guys seemed to think both would be. I can't imagine a reason why either guy would not be in the lineup, but there's been a lot of smoke about Lee specifically (and Evan Wick) and was wondering if anybody had heard anything.Wrestlestat is rarely correct when it comes to lineup (or roster) projections in the pre-season. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHRoseWrestling 183 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 Not sure if you were asking about Wick, but he addressed the smoke in his post-match interview on the last Rokfin card. He indicated that regardless of the eventual B1G season and the NCAA eligibility relief he would not be enrolling at Wisconsin this year but keep his home base on the west coast training primarily with Titan Mercury and Coach John Azevedo. I am not sure if he said this specifically or I simply extracted it from his comments, but Wick has better access to diverse partners as well as travel and competition opportunities away from campus. Considering the "campus bubbles" and the testing and travel protocols the teams will be beholden to this season, for a young man with the goal of putting himself in the best position for an Olympic berth, this line of thinking checks out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,131 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 I should add that one reason wrestlers might not wrestle this year would be money. It costs money to go to school.Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taylor 5 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 Neither Nick Lee or Kerkvleit are listed in Track Wrestling on Penn State's roster. I noticed this a few weeks ago. Looks like the entire team has pretty much certified besides Busiello, Heywaod and Boone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jammen 312 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 9 hours ago, VakAttack said: I should add that one reason wrestlers might not wrestle this year would be money. It costs money to go to school. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Not for PSU wrestlers. 2 jchapman and HurricaneWrestling2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,226 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 There will be a slew of gents not wrestling this year with the uncertainty, as well as shortened season, due to tuition costs. Not many gents in all of NCAAs are on a full ride. Jordan Wood is one that comes to mind. He has already said he's not enrolling this year at Lehigh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 439 Report post Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/29/2020 at 10:52 PM, VakAttack said: There's been some extensive discussion about Lee for weeks, and on FRL today Kerk's name was thrown in, also. @andegre or somebody they identified as wrestlestat said that neither would be in the line up, while the FRL guys seemed to think both would be. I can't imagine a reason why either guy would not be in the lineup, but there's been a lot of smoke about Lee specifically (and Evan Wick) and was wondering if anybody had heard anything. They are now both listed on the PSU roster https://gopsusports.com/sports/wrestling/roster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idc2 4 Report post Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: They are now both listed on the PSU roster https://gopsusports.com/sports/wrestling/roster That's the 2019-2020 roster, not this year's roster. I believe PSU is the only team to not post a 2020-2021 roster yet. Neither Lee nor Kerkvliet are listed on their trackwrestling roster (which is for 2020-2021). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 439 Report post Posted January 1 31 minutes ago, idc2 said: That's the 2019-2020 roster, not this year's roster. I believe PSU is the only team to not post a 2020-2021 roster yet. Neither Lee nor Kerkvliet are listed on their trackwrestling roster (which is for 2020-2021). Just goes to show, you see what you want to see. And I clearly want to see Kerkvliet and Lee wrestling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,084 Report post Posted January 1 On 12/30/2020 at 12:28 AM, lu_alum said: Wrestlestat is rarely correct when it comes to lineup (or roster) projections in the pre-season. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk more correct than FRL.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Husker_Du 624 Report post Posted January 1 On 12/30/2020 at 12:58 PM, nhs67 said: There will be a slew of gents not wrestling this year with the uncertainty, as well as shortened season, due to tuition costs. Not many gents in all of NCAAs are on a full ride. Jordan Wood is one that comes to mind. He has already said he's not enrolling this year at Lehigh. that has changed. they are trying to get him in to school now. 2 nhs67 and JHRoseWrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,953 Report post Posted January 2 Nick Lee and Greg Kerkvliet now appear on Track. https://www.trackwrestling.com/seasons/MainFrame.jsp?TIM=1609547969126&twSessionId=wlhnejqqrg&loadBalanced=true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Class 84 Report post Posted January 2 Does Cornell being out and no Yanni make Nick Lee to 149 allowing Bartlett to slide into 41 advisable? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,131 Report post Posted January 2 4 hours ago, TBar1977 said: Nick Lee and Greg Kerkvliet now appear on Track. https://www.trackwrestling.com/seasons/MainFrame.jsp?TIM=1609547969126&twSessionId=wlhnejqqrg&loadBalanced=true This makes more sense. Does anybody know what the "ineligible" classification means in Track? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,636 Report post Posted January 2 9 minutes ago, VakAttack said: This makes more sense. Does anybody know what the "ineligible" classification means in Track? It means just what it says. Ineligible. Could be any of several reasons but most all of them revolve around not being certified. Could be injury, academics, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,131 Report post Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, gimpeltf said: It means just what it says. Ineligible. Could be any of several reasons but most all of them revolve around not being certified. Could be injury, academics, etc. Interesting. I've honestly never really looked at the Track rosters in all my years following wrestling, so I didn't know if it was some technical thing with the software that they needed to enter, or if it was actually legit tied to things like academic eligibility. 1 gimpeltf reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHRoseWrestling 183 Report post Posted January 2 The only factor that triggers eligibility in track is whether or not the athlete is certified. No other relevant data to eligibility is required to be logged in the track roster. Of course, there are a wide range of reasons why an athlete wouldn't be certified, spanning from "they just haven't done it yet" to unenrolled in school, also to include a failed attempt at the hydration minimum and academic eligibility, among other possible reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,131 Report post Posted January 2 Gotcha. Given the fact they were just added, I would guess strongly it's pure weight certification. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHRoseWrestling 183 Report post Posted January 2 (edited) In the case of Kerkvleit, there is also no immediate rush to certify as it is presumable he will not have to decend to his competition weight over time. He could certify hydrated literally the day of his first competition, although there's no good reason not to get it out of the way unless he is not currently enrolled for a few more days... I don't know what his status was in the fall. Edited January 2 by JHRoseWrestling Kerkvleit is hard to spell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,953 Report post Posted January 5 (edited) Kervliet is certified 285, Beau Bartlett 157, Nick Lee 149. The Penn State lineup looks like its rounding into form. 125 Howard 133 RBY 141 Nick Lee 149 Beau Bartlett or Jarod Verkleeren or Luke Gardner 157 Brady Berge 165 Joe Lee 174 Carter Starocci 184 Aaron Brooks 197 Michael Beard 285 Greg Kerkvliet Edited January 5 by TBar1977 1 1 Bigboi Trained and VakAttack reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 669 Report post Posted January 5 1 hour ago, TBar1977 said: Kervliet is certified 285, Beau Bartlett 157, Nick Lee 149. The Penn State lineup looks like its rounding into form. 125 Howard 133 RBY 141 Nick Lee 149 Beau Bartlett or Jarod Verkleeren or Luke Gardner 157 Brady Berge 165 Joe Lee 174 Carter Starocci 184 Aaron Brooks 197 Michael Beard 285 Greg Kerkvliet Where is Bartlett? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,636 Report post Posted January 5 24 minutes ago, AHamilton said: Where is Bartlett? 1 hour ago, TBar1977 said: Kervliet is certified 285, Beau Bartlett 157, Nick Lee 149. The Penn State lineup looks like its rounding into form. 125 Howard 133 RBY 141 Nick Lee Right here! ->149 Beau Bartlett or Jarod Verkleeren or Luke Gardner 157 Brady Berge 165 Joe Lee 174 Carter Starocci 184 Aaron Brooks 197 Michael Beard 285 Greg Kerkvliet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
