BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted January 6 https://rokfin.com/post/24410 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RealAmericanHero 97 Report post Posted January 6 I saw a few qoutes from the presser. Brands said something to the effect of "And you know what I'm talking about". Actually, I do not know what is being talked about? What is the "propaganda machine" he's referring to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,133 Report post Posted January 6 28 minutes ago, RealAmericanHero said: I saw a few qoutes from the presser. Brands said something to the effect of "And you know what I'm talking about". Actually, I do not know what is being talked about? What is the "propaganda machine" he's referring to? I think he is referring to Flo. Flo discusses how Spencer doesn’t score in the 2nd and 3rd period, and Iowa is saying that Flo ignored the fact that it was due to spencer pinning everyone in the first period. something like that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RealAmericanHero 97 Report post Posted January 6 I picked up on that one. But there was another quote that was him trying to squash a rumor that was put out "on the PROPAGANDA MACHINE" about ducking opponents. He seemed to be stating that the B1G sort of dictates the schedule but people (aka THE PROPAGANDA MACHINE) claim Iowa is ducking certain teams. Dear Tom, no matter how loudly you scream PROPAGANDA MACHINE, I'm still uncertain as to what that means - regardless of you stating I, in fact, do know what you mean. :-) :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 876 Report post Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, RealAmericanHero said: I picked up on that one. But there was another quote that was him trying to squash a rumor that was put out "on the PROPAGANDA MACHINE" about ducking opponents. He seemed to be stating that the B1G sort of dictates the schedule but people (aka THE PROPAGANDA MACHINE) claim Iowa is ducking certain teams. Dear Tom, no matter how loudly you scream PROPAGANDA MACHINE, I'm still uncertain as to what that means - regardless of you stating I, in fact, do know what you mean. :-) :-) I thought the same thing, wasn't really sure what he meant either. Maybe just the fact that opposing fans like to hate on Iowa? 1 RealAmericanHero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 479 Report post Posted January 6 First Spencer Lee ducked the second round, now Brands is ducking Big Propaganda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,823 Report post Posted January 6 (edited) 9 hours ago, BigTenFanboy said: https://rokfin.com/post/24410 That rant is straight up comical. If his "Nitt, Nitt, Ninnies" is a reference to Penn State then Sanderson officially lives rent free in that guy's head. I hope it's not. Edited January 6 by TBar1977 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 744 Report post Posted January 6 I just watched the video, and it is impossible to know what he's talking about. Here's a brief clip where he starts shouting about propaganda. https://gfycat.com/chubbysereneafricangroundhornbill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Drake_Mallard 150 Report post Posted January 6 Jeez Tom... lock it up. You have the best team in the country, with maybe a top ten most talented individuals we have seen in the sport, and you need to play the victim card? Its too much Iowa vs the world mentality. You have a team with individuals that people love across the board. Lean into that! He is just resorting to an old schtick that he spent the last several years trying to recover from.... and Im a Hawk fan! 1 dwkeller reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,526 Report post Posted January 6 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Drake_Mallard said: Jeez Tom... lock it up. You have the best team in the country, with maybe a top ten most talented individuals we have seen in the sport, and you need to play the victim card? Its too much Iowa vs the world mentality. You have a team with individuals that people love across the board. Lean into that! He is just resorting to an old schtick that he spent the last several years trying to recover from.... and Im a Hawk fan! But, you need to see where the vitriol is coming from. He feels straight up robbed by the Pandemic. No team championship last year is a monster blow. Especially when PSU was as vulnerable as they have been, excepting 1 season in the last 10. I wouldn't listen to anything he really said, simply because he kept circling back to the getting to the end topic. He simply doesn't want it to happen again and he takes things personally. Always has. To him, the whole Pandemic, B1G and NCAA are against him. Sometimes that mentality is a weakness, but it directly contributed to a large part of his success. Me/Us against the world can be a very powerful tool, when used correctly! Edited January 6 by MSU158 2 drag it and Eagle26 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Mallard 150 Report post Posted January 6 1 minute ago, MSU158 said: He simply doesn't want it to happen again and he takes things personally. Always has. To him, the whole Pandemic, B1G and NCAA are against him. Sometimes that mentality is a weakness, but it was a directly contributed to a large part of his success. Me/Us against the world can be a very powerful tool, when used correctly! Ok, but this is just so tone def on his part. Everyone got **** on in this situation, and he has the audacity to come with a "woe is me" approach? Frankly, it makes him look weak and fragile, and it makes Iowa look entitled when they were in a prime position to take a leadership role here. I am just disappointed. If he would stop taking things so personal, he may be more inclined to see opportunity. Thats just me, and this is one of the few times you will see me question Brand's leadership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 876 Report post Posted January 6 (edited) I like how he basically says wrestling should be OK with covid because they take showers after practice Edit: for the record Brands gives the best interviews of any D1 coach IMO Edited January 6 by 1032004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southend 155 Report post Posted January 6 The man is definitely in his own little world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted January 6 4 hours ago, Housebuye said: I think he is referring to Flo. Flo discusses how Spencer doesn’t score in the 2nd and 3rd period, and Iowa is saying that Flo ignored the fact that it was due to spencer pinning everyone in the first period. something like that Not to nitpick... (thats a lie nitpicking is my favorite thing to do) but Spencer hasnt exactly been a pinning machine. Hs sure is good at getthing those fast techs though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,526 Report post Posted January 6 8 minutes ago, BigTenFanboy said: Not to nitpick... (thats a lie nitpicking is my favorite thing to do) but Spencer hasnt exactly been a pinning machine. Hs sure is good at getthing those fast techs though. 22 out of his 63 wins are by fall. That is still a rather high percentage. Over 1/3 puts you rather high on the list. With 2 seasons remaining, I would think his career percentage ends up quite high. Even master pinner Ben Askren was only 91 out of 153, with most of those coming his last 2 seasons. I would bet Lee gets to above 50% by the end of his career. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,823 Report post Posted January 6 1 hour ago, MSU158 said: But, you need to see where the vitriol is coming from. He feels straight up robbed by the Pandemic. No team championship last year is a monster blow. Especially when PSU was as vulnerable as they have been, excepting 1 season in the last 10. I wouldn't listen to anything he really said, simply because he kept circling back to the getting to the end topic. He simply doesn't want it to happen again and he takes things personally. Always has. To him, the whole Pandemic, B1G and NCAA are against him. Sometimes that mentality is a weakness, but it directly contributed to a large part of his success. Me/Us against the world can be a very powerful tool, when used correctly! But isn't everyone coming back next year too?! He can still get 2 team titles from this group if they really are good enough to get them, so he'd be getting the same number he'd have gotten out of them had Covid never happened. His rant is just that, a rant. And for what end? Honestly, he got every break in the world last year with all the PSU injuries, and this year and next he'd have the far, far more experienced team. And he's the victim? Sheesh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Le duke 84 Report post Posted January 6 Jeez Tom... lock it up. You have the best team in the country, with maybe a top ten most talented individuals we have seen in the sport, and you need to play the victim card? Its too much Iowa vs the world mentality. You have a team with individuals that people love across the board. Lean into that! He is just resorting to an old schtick that he spent the last several years trying to recover from.... and Im a Hawk fan! I’m fairly certain the average of the PSU starting 10 in 2017 blows Iowa’s 2021 roster out of the water. They might have two champs this year. Maybe. Also: If Anthony Cassar doesn’t get injured at senior nationals last year, PSU is the #1 team in the country going into NCAAs. Sorry, Tom. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 1 Alwayswrestling and dwkeller reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,526 Report post Posted January 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Le duke said: I’m fairly certain the average of the PSU starting 10 in 2017 blows Iowa’s 2021 roster out of the water. They might have two champs this year. Maybe. Also: If Anthony Cassar doesn’t get injured at senior nationals last year, PSU is the #1 team in the country going into NCAAs. Sorry, Tom. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Opinion or fact based? You do realize that the Ivies are out, right? With the Ivies out, if this tournament still goes with 33 per weight, this could be a record scoring year with talent thinned down considerably. 125 is so thin below Lee, unless Suriano or FIx ends up down there, I would be surprised if he doesn't TF or pin every opponent. Pre-Season rankings: 2021----------------------------------------------------------------------------2017(FLO Nov 7,2016) 125: Lee #1------------------------------------------------------------------125: N/R Suriano eventually but he injury defaulted to ZERO 133: DeSanto #5----------------------------------------------------------133: Cortez#8 PSU DNQ'd this weight 141: Eierman #2-----------------------------------------------------------141: Gulibon #11 R12 149: Murin #6---------------------------------------------------------------149: Retherford #1 FInished Dominant Champ 157: Young #9--------------------------------------------------------------157: Nolf #1 FInished Dominant Champ 165: Marinelli #2----------------------------------------------------------165: Joseph was not ranked until 2 weeks later Finished Champ 174: Kemerer #1----------------------------------------------------------174 Hall wasn't ranked until January 23 at 10th Finished Champ 184: Assad #8-------------------------------------------------------------184 Nickal was #3 and Finished Champ 197: Warner #4------------------------------------------------------------197 McCutcheon #9 and finished R12 285: Cass #3---------------------------------------------------------------285 Nevills #5 and finished 5th. So, to get this straight, PSU could have Joseph and Hall come from nowhere to win it all, but Iowa can ONLY MAYBE get 2 champs out of 8 guys ranked top 6? They also have a very strong chance at 10 AA's. Let's be clear, PSU had an amazing run from 149-184, but only 2 of them were favorites. After that, they still had relative weaknesses at 133,141 and 197. Now, if Suriano stayed healthy, it's a different ball game. However, that is life. To finalize, barring injury, I would be shocked if Lee, Marinelli and Kemerer don't win it. After that, Eierman has a strong chance and Warner and DeSanto could definitely make the Finals. 10 top 10 guys allows for a lot of wiggle room to score 150 pts at NCAA's. Which, that 2016-2017 PSU team did NOT do. Edited January 6 by MSU158 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Class 70 Report post Posted January 6 Kind of a strange vibe from TB. A little less polished, even for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boompa 171 Report post Posted January 6 6 hours ago, TBar1977 said: That rant is straight up comical. If his "Nitt, Nitt, Ninnies" is a reference to Penn State then Sanderson officially lives rent free in that guy's head. I hope it's not. I think you are imagining things in your head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,823 Report post Posted January 6 Just now, Boompa said: I think you are imagining things in your head. Just when everyone had thought he had matured. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Mallard 150 Report post Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Le duke said: I’m fairly certain the average of the PSU starting 10 in 2017 blows Iowa’s 2021 roster out of the water. They might have two champs this year. Maybe. Also: If Anthony Cassar doesn’t get injured at senior nationals last year, PSU is the #1 team in the country going into NCAAs. Sorry, Tom. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You just waiting for a chance to bring that up? It has nothing to do with what I said. Lame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 1,093 Report post Posted January 6 (edited) 39 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Just when everyone had thought he had matured. . Edited January 6 by jchapman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted January 6 7 hours ago, TBar1977 said: That rant is straight up comical. If his "Nitt, Nitt, Ninnies" is a reference to Penn State then Sanderson officially lives rent free in that guy's head. I hope it's not. Just like him in yours.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
