hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted January 12 (edited) Fried was 2nd(91), 2nd(92), dnp(93), 1st (94). What happened in 93? I know okstate got penalized for recruiting violations, but I thought that was the year before? Did he wrestle in 90 and redshirt 93? Edited January 12 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,708 Report post Posted January 12 Oklahoma State did not wrestle at the 1993 tourney, they did in 1992 and the 92 tourney was in Oklahoma City. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,629 Report post Posted January 12 He would likely have redshirted '90 and would have lost '93 since he stayed at OSU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Gantry said: Oklahoma State did not wrestle at the 1993 tourney, they did in 1992 and the 92 tourney was in Oklahoma City. And that was because of the recruiting thing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,629 Report post Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: And that was because of the recruiting thing? https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/miCaseView/report?id=101807 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 835 Report post Posted January 12 The anonymous phone call... then won it in 94 https://okstate.com/news/2014/9/11/Then_and_Now_OSU_s_1994_National_Champions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted January 12 1 hour ago, gimpeltf said: https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/miCaseView/report?id=101807 is this a yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,629 Report post Posted January 12 6 hours ago, hammerlockthree said: is this a yes Did you read it? It wasn't just recruiting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 879 Report post Posted January 12 @hammerlockthreeIt's only sixteen pages... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,629 Report post Posted January 12 45 minutes ago, Mphillips said: @hammerlockthreeIt's only sixteen pages... The most important part was on the first page or two. 1 Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 879 Report post Posted January 12 36 minutes ago, gimpeltf said: The most important part was on the first page or two. Now you tell us? 1 RealAmericanHero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 411 Report post Posted January 12 What BS. Reads like an indictment of the NCAA IMO. Kids drove thousands of miles and the coach paid for the gas, coach paid then to work camps coach threw a few bucks to kids who were redshirting and living in freaking Oklahoma and probably starving. The investigation cost far more than any expense incurred by the coaches, and the fat cats at the NCAA made millions, The NCAA is a corrupt anachronism that needs to go away. 1 dman115 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,458 Report post Posted January 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, TFBJR said: What BS. Reads like an indictment of the NCAA IMO. Kids drove thousands of miles and the coach paid for the gas, coach paid then to work camps coach threw a few bucks to kids who were redshirting and living in freaking Oklahoma and probably starving. The investigation cost far more than any expense incurred by the coaches, and the fat cats at the NCAA made millions, The NCAA is a corrupt anachronism that needs to go away. And Iowa was doing the same thing. :( And surely all have learned from this and no coaches or programs would do anything like this today. ;_; "The result was that by mixing part-time prospective student-athletes, redshirted student-athletes, club teams, open tournaments and coaching staff members who were themselves competing in national and international meets, the university gained substantial recruiting and competitive advantages over a period of several years." Edited January 12 by ionel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted January 12 This case involved a number of major violations in wrestling, including: treating prospective student-athletes who had enrolled as part-time [Page 2] students as if they were regularly enrolled student-athletes; providing regularly enrolled student-athletes who were being redshirted with cash, transportation, entry fees and other benefits to compete in open wrestling meets (contrary to numerous NCAA rules and regulations); employing prospective studentathletes in summer camps and providing transportation, free enrollment and other benefits that are considered inducements under NCAA legislation to them; administering summer camps without proper accounting and auditing procedures, which allowed some student-athletes to receive benefits to which they were not entitled, and employing and providing funds to coaching staff members that were not known to or under the control of the university. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 835 Report post Posted January 12 So in the end..... No - there was not a year that Fried DNP at the NCAA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,458 Report post Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, Idaho said: So in the end..... No - there was not a year that Fried DNP at the NCAA. DNP - did not participate. :) 1 GranbyTroll reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broomstick 68 Report post Posted January 12 Had Fried wrestled in 93, he would of won at 142 and Lincoln Mac would only be a 2 time champ. This is well understood by all Iowa fans. 1 Idaho reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smsu150 7 Report post Posted January 13 On 1/12/2021 at 12:36 PM, Broomstick said: Had Fried wrestled in 93, he would of won at 142 and Lincoln Mac would only be a 2 time champ. This is well understood by all Iowa fans. Would Fried have wrestled 142 in 93'? He was 134 the previous two years. I believe the Pokes would of had another AA wrestling at 142 that year (Jodie Wilson). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smsu150 7 Report post Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, smsu150 said: Would Fried have wrestled 142 in 93'? He was 134 the previous two years. I believe the Pokes would of had another AA wrestling at 142 that year (Jodie Wilson). On second thought, I believe Fried would have wrestled 142 as the Pokes would of had Purler (NC @ 126) and Jaworsky (NC @ 134) in the line-up. With Pat Smith at 158, OSU would have had 4 national champions in 93' and would have most likely won the team title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 835 Report post Posted January 13 3 hours ago, smsu150 said: Would Fried have wrestled 142 in 93'? He was 134 the previous two years. I believe the Pokes would of had another AA wrestling at 142 that year (Jodie Wilson). They would have had Chris Owens the runner up in 92 to Steiner at 142. He would have been a RSSR that year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
powershouse 94 Report post Posted January 14 "The result was that by mixing part-time prospective student-athletes, redshirted student-athletes, club teams, open tournaments and coaching staff members who were themselves competing in national and international meets, the university gained substantial recruiting and competitive advantages over a period of several years." Now they call that an RTC. 1 1 HurricaneWrestling2 and wrestlingnerd reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broomstick 68 Report post Posted January 14 (edited) 15 hours ago, Idaho said: They would have had Chris Owens the runner up in 92 to Steiner at 142. He would have been a RSSR that year. I cannot remember for certain anymore, but I though Fried competed (and was undefeated) at 142 in the 93 season at open tournaments and/or whatever competition he/Ok State was allowed to attend. Edited January 14 by Broomstick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Broomstick said: I cannot remember for certain anymore, but I though Fried competed (and was undefeated) at 142 in the 93 season at open tournaments and/or whatever competition he/Ok State was allowed to attend. What was the year he pinned Brands? December 91 right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,006 Report post Posted January 14 Who was the recruit getting all the love from the coaches in 1988-89? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripNSweep 496 Report post Posted January 14 On 1/13/2021 at 1:13 PM, smsu150 said: Would Fried have wrestled 142 in 93'? He was 134 the previous two years. I believe the Pokes would of had another AA wrestling at 142 that year (Jodie Wilson). We saw how well Wilson wrestling McIlravy went in the Iowa/Iowa State dual that year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites