TBar1977 3,953 Report post Posted February 1 (edited) Listed below are the number of matches wrestled by each team's starter. Redshirt years not counted because they are not quite the same thing experience wise. With the unreal difference in experience this should be a blowout win for Iowa. I guess time will tell. 125 Spencer Lee 71, Robbie Howard 0 133 Austin DeSanto 90, RBY 56 141 Jaydin Eierman 108,Nick Lee 98 149 Max Murin 49, PSU has Verkleeren 47 OR Barraclough 2 OR Bartlett 0 157 Kaleb Young 70, Brady Berge 29 165 Marinelli 77, Joe Lee 2 174 Kemerer 84, Carter Starocci 3 184 Brands 16, Aaron Brooks 18 197 Warner 55, Beard 0 Hwt Cassioppi 24, Kerkvliet 0 OR Nevills 19 Edited February 1 by TBar1977 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crotalus 464 Report post Posted February 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, TBar1977 said: 125 Spencer Lee 71, Robbie Howard 0 I saw this first and thought it was your predicted score. I also thought it was reasonable. Edited February 1 by Crotalus 5 6 1 nhs67, VakAttack, fiveontwo and 9 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,132 Report post Posted February 1 Based on what we've seen, I'm going to guess we're not going to get these lineups, unfortunately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,953 Report post Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Crotalus said: I saw this first and thought it was your predicted score. I also thought is was reasonable. If you reverse the 7 and the 1 it becomes at least possible, and I am not sure Lee will surrender an offensive point the rest of his career he is so good. Iowa should probably just crush PSU with all this experience they have this year and next. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 813 Report post Posted February 1 How many Iowa guys will choose to come back next year, and how would that affect scholarships? Lee, DeSanto, Eierman, Young, Marinelli, and Kemerer would all ordinarily be out of eligibility after this season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,132 Report post Posted February 1 1 hour ago, TBar1977 said: If you reverse the 7 and the 1 it becomes at least possible, and I am not sure Lee will surrender an offensive point the rest of his career he is so good. Iowa should probably just crush PSU with all this experience they have this year and next. We get it. 1 Crotalus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeartheTurtle 1 Report post Posted February 1 1 hour ago, TBar1977 said: If you reverse the 7 and the 1 it becomes at least possible, and I am not sure Lee will surrender an offensive point the rest of his career he is so good. Iowa should probably just crush PSU with all this experience they have this year and next. Fattening frogs for snakes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,953 Report post Posted February 1 16 minutes ago, VakAttack said: We get it. Hey, Flo talks Iowa up like they are invinceable every week. I am just agreeing with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 624 Report post Posted February 1 I don't think we're going to see Marinelli. That's a huge swing for PSU unless they can get Kennedy down to 165. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,235 Report post Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Crotalus said: I saw this first and thought it was your predicted score. I also thought is was reasonable. You're not being very fair to Spencer Lee here... 1 Crotalus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,953 Report post Posted February 1 (edited) 4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: I don't think we're going to see Marinelli. That's a huge swing for PSU unless they can get Kennedy down to 165. Kennedy just wrestled 174. If he was over 170.1 then I don't think he can descend to 165 in 12/13 days. Edited February 1 by TBar1977 2 uncle bernard and nhs67 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,235 Report post Posted February 1 (edited) 7 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: I don't think we're going to see Marinelli. That's a huge swing for PSU unless they can get Kennedy down to 165. That all depends on what Kennedy has been weighing in at. If he just weighed in at 174 the he won't be able to make the descent in time. At 1.5% per week(0.015/7 for a daily), the earliest he could make 165 would be 25 days from last competition. Edited February 1 by nhs67 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,484 Report post Posted February 1 (edited) 12 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: I don't think we're going to see Marinelli. Do you have inside info or a reason? Edited February 1 by ionel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,235 Report post Posted February 1 I would love to see them get creative (Iowa). Bump everyone up one weight. If you start at 141 and let Happel wrestle Lee, then you have Eierman, Murin, Young at 149-157-165 OR! OOOORRRR!! And please Brands DO THIS. Let Ybarra seek his revenge against Howard at 125. I'm sure he has a taste in his mouth about that, still. 125-Ybarra 133-Lee 141-Desanto 149-Eierman 157-Murin 165-Young 174-Kemererererer/Kennedy 184-Brands/Assad 197-Warner 285-Cassman I would froth at the mouth and wouldn't even piss and moan about the potential Eierman/Kemerererererer ducks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,235 Report post Posted February 1 In that scenario, they would have to weigh within 1.5-2% of their regular weight class and bump or they'd have to be on a descent plan to get back to their 'normal' weights. Lee-RBY? YES!! Desanto-Lee? YESYES!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,953 Report post Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, nhs67 said: In that scenario, they would have to weigh within 1.5-2% of their regular weight class and bump or they'd have to be on a descent plan to get back to their 'normal' weights. Lee-RBY? YES!! Desanto-Lee? YESYES!! Your idea is a fantasy. Size matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 624 Report post Posted February 1 23 minutes ago, ionel said: Do you have inside info or a reason? Brands was asked about it after the Illinois meet and specifically mentioned the 17 day waiting period multiple times, which leads me to believe he tested positive and wasn't just out for contact tracing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 624 Report post Posted February 1 22 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I would love to see them get creative (Iowa). Bump everyone up one weight. If you start at 141 and let Happel wrestle Lee, then you have Eierman, Murin, Young at 149-157-165 OR! OOOORRRR!! And please Brands DO THIS. Let Ybarra seek his revenge against Howard at 125. I'm sure he has a taste in his mouth about that, still. 125-Ybarra 133-Lee 141-Desanto 149-Eierman 157-Murin 165-Young 174-Kemererererer/Kennedy 184-Brands/Assad 197-Warner 285-Cassman I would froth at the mouth and wouldn't even piss and moan about the potential Eierman/Kemerererererer ducks. Just trying to find a way for PSU to win the dual? haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,484 Report post Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: Brands was asked about it after the Illinois meet and specifically mentioned the 17 day waiting period multiple times, which leads me to believe he tested positive and wasn't just out for contact tracing. Yeah, wondered if he just let the other kid wrestling due to Branegal out with a broken something. Didn't hear the post interview, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 624 Report post Posted February 1 11 minutes ago, ionel said: Yeah, wondered if he just let the other kid wrestling due to Branegal out with a broken something. Didn't hear the post interview, thanks. They put out a press release right before the dual announcing Marinelli was out due to Covid protocols as well. It's all speculation as to whether he actually tested positive, but from the information available, it seems likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,484 Report post Posted February 1 8 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: They put out a press release right before the dual announcing Marinelli was out due to Covid protocols as well. It's all speculation as to whether he actually tested positive, but from the information available, it seems likely. Since failing to deliver on the promised rocket ship, I don't go out of my way to listen to Brands' press conferences or Iowa's press releases. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,235 Report post Posted February 1 43 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Your idea is a fantasy. Size matters. That why you're divorced three times? 1 Mr. Poopy butthole reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,235 Report post Posted February 1 (edited) 36 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: Just trying to find a way for PSU to win the dual? haha No. 125-Tossup 133-Lee 141-Tossup 149-Eierman 157-Tossup 165-Young VS 125-Lee 133-Tossup 141-Tossup 149-Tossup 157-Tossup 165-Lee If they bump there is 3 tossups and 3 weights where Iowa is favored. If they don't then there are 4 tossups and 1 weight each where they are favored. This idea isn't insane, especially if they're wanting to avoid RBY-Desanto and Lee-Eierman until B1Gs. Edited February 1 by nhs67 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 624 Report post Posted February 1 (edited) 8 minutes ago, nhs67 said: No. 125-Tossup 133-Lee 141-Tossup 149-Eierman 157-Tossup 165-Young VS 125-Lee 133-Tossup 141-Tossup 149-Tossup 157-Tossup 165-Lee If they bump there is 3 tossups and 3 weights where Iowa is favored. If they don't then there are 4 tossups and 1 weight each where they are favored. This idea isn't insane, especially if they're wanting to avoid RBY-Desanto and Lee-Eierman until B1Gs. I think it goes favorite psu, tossup, favorite psu, favorite iowa, favorite psu, favorite psu as opposed to guaranteed 5+, tossup, tossup, favorite iowa, tossup, favorite psu. Not only do you miss Lee's bonus (which is basically like an extra win), you put all of your guys at their non ideal weights. They would still have to weigh in pretty close to their normal class. This isn't high school. You can't give up that kind of weight like that. Look at Rivera bumping against Micic two years ago. Edited February 1 by uncle bernard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 740 Report post Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, nhs67 said: No. 125-Tossup 133-Lee 141-Tossup 149-Eierman 157-Tossup 165-Young VS 125-Lee 133-Tossup 141-Tossup 149-Tossup 157-Tossup 165-Lee If they bump there is 3 tossups and 3 weights where Iowa is favored. If they don't then there are 4 tossups and 1 weight each where they are favored. This idea isn't insane, especially if they're wanting to avoid RBY-Desanto and Lee-Eierman until B1Gs. 133 pound desanto is a toss up with Nick Lee ? Have you gone mad? Idk if I’d even call him and Rby a toss up anymore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
