MSU158 1,982 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 Team trophy is a strong possibility and they have 5 AA's with a Finalist. Zeke deserves some credit! 3 gobraves101905, agoff71 and Ish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobraves101905 138 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) Need a couple big wins tomorrow. There goes the can’t coach light weights talk. Edited March 20, 2021 by gobraves101905 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Force118 150 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 Absolutely. Turns out the B1G doesn’t hold a monopoly on talent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,224 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, MSU158 said: Team trophy is a strong possibility and they have 5 AA's with a Finalist. Zeke deserves some credit! Oh yeah. Props to ASU. In particular, AV showed alot of heart. 1 agoff71 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,990 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 They and Okie State have been extremely impressive. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RegularStalling 52 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 Bringing in another strong recruiting class next year too. Seems Zeke learned from his mistake and is prioritizing recruiting year after year, rather than relying on one elite class to carry the entire load. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RegularStalling 52 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 Another note, I'm very impressed with Schultz' development over the course of the season. Had questions about him stylistically, but it seems like he really hit his stride when it mattered. 1 agoff71 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry 102 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 Whenever I see Colton Schultz, my initial reaction is that Daton Fix has really let himself go. 3 4 powershouse, Greatdane67, herma48852 and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bronco 231 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 6 hours ago, MSU158 said: Team trophy is a strong possibility and they have 5 AA's with a Finalist. Zeke deserves some credit! Team trophy???? How do you figure that? Arizona State is 43 team points behind Iowa at this point (Iowa 109 - Arizona State 67). Also Iowa has 3 guys in the finals - Arizona State has 1. I'm all for giving Arizona State (and Zeke) credit but the fact is they had their butts handed to them in the Quarter-Final round. Of the four ASU wrestlers who made it to the QF round three of them lost. The only one who did win was Courtney at 125 lbs and he was won in the OT tiebreaker. Valencia lost at 165 lbs (due to injury), Norfleet, a 3 Seed, lost 4-1 to a guy who was a 6 Seed, at 197 lbs, Schultz, a 4 Seed, at 285 lbs, also lost 4-1 to the # 5 Seed. Norfleet, in particular, did well below expectations. He entered as the # 3 Seed, didn't get injured (as far as I know) and was beaten twice by guys he absolutely should have defeated. Bottom line is he won't be an A.A. this season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,107 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) How many team trophies do they give out? I thought it was 3. Regarding ASU, I'm glad to see they are doing well. Frankly I'm surprised they aren't even better, what with all the talent coming out of California. With Stanford dropping the sport I expect ASU to get stronger. Edited March 20, 2021 by TobusRex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,107 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Henry said: Whenever I see Colton Schultz, my initial reaction is that Daton Fix has really let himself go. Somebody needs to get those boys a haircut. Hell, I'll even pay for it. Give them a manly look, like Marinelli has. On the other hand that might not be so good for their wrestling, their legs will give out from all the wild monkey sex coeds will be throwing their way. You see, women can't resist a bald man. Yes, they know that bald men are packing massive genitalia and know how to use it, but mostly they love the spiritual and moral greatness of bald men, men who have evolved past disgusting animal traits like hair on the head. The greatest and wisest warriors are always bald. Don't ask me, ask Cael. Edited March 20, 2021 by TobusRex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nom 1,186 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 4 team trophies. @Bronco isn’t new to this. He knows that. Not sure why he is focused on catching Iowa. Just need 4th place. Edited March 20, 2021 by nom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamStall365247 163 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 Not an ASU fan but awesome to see Anthony Valencia get on the podium, especially after the injury in the QF’s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 1,022 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Henry said: Whenever I see Colton Schultz, my initial reaction is that Daton Fix has really let himself go. Started grabbing the other 12 ounce bottles in dad’s fridge 1 wrestlingphish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,982 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Bronco said: Team trophy???? How do you figure that? Arizona State is 43 team points behind Iowa at this point (Iowa 109 - Arizona State 67). Also Iowa has 3 guys in the finals - Arizona State has 1. I'm all for giving Arizona State (and Zeke) credit but the fact is they had their butts handed to them in the Quarter-Final round. Of the four ASU wrestlers who made it to the QF round three of them lost. The only one who did win was Courtney at 125 lbs and he was won in the OT tiebreaker. Valencia lost at 165 lbs (due to injury), Norfleet, a 3 Seed, lost 4-1 to a guy who was a 6 Seed, at 197 lbs, Schultz, a 4 Seed, at 285 lbs, also lost 4-1 to the # 5 Seed. Norfleet, in particular, did well below expectations. He entered as the # 3 Seed, didn't get injured (as far as I know) and was beaten twice by guys he absolutely should have defeated. Bottom line is he won't be an A.A. this season. Seriously? For as long as you have been around wrestling you don’t understand the “team trophy” guidelines? Top 4 teams get one. As far as their performance goes, Courtney and McGhee have been fantastic. Teemer and Schultz have done as well as you could reasonably have expected. Hell, Crooks and Munoz even won a match! Valencia looks really good until the quarters but still managed to battle back to AA with an injury. So, really the only significant underperformance was Norfleet and he lost to a guy that is in the Finals and then again in the R12 Making the R12 isn’t blowing up going 0-2 is Simple truth is, Zeke has taken quite a bit of heat and they delivered very well this year. His guys showed as much grit and determination as I have seen from any of his squads. Happy to see it! 1 agoff71 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,224 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, TobusRex said: Somebody needs to get those boys a haircut. Hell, I'll even pay for it. Give them a manly look, like Marinelli has. On the other hand that might not be so good for their wrestling, their legs will give out from all the wild monkey sex coeds will be throwing their way. You see, women can't resist a bald man. Yes, they know that bald men are packing massive genitalia and know how to use it, but mostly they love the spiritual and moral greatness of bald men, men who have evolved past disgusting animal traits like hair on the head. The greatest and wisest warriors are always bald. Don't ask me, ask Cael. You know you are jealous of the guys with hair. Just admit it and move on. Hell, live vicariously, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,419 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Plasmodium said: Oh yeah. Props to ASU. In particular, AV showed alot of heart. It bout that injury he is almost certainly a semi finalist! And he has that recent win over the finalist on the other side...Anthony was so close to winning a title. happy he AAd at least Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,419 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, MSU158 said: Seriously? For as long as you have been around wrestling you don’t understand the “team trophy” guidelines? Top 4 teams get one. As far as their performance goes, Courtney and McGhee have been fantastic. Teemer and Schultz have done as well as you could reasonably have expected. Hell, Crooks and Munoz even won a match! Valencia looks really good until the quarters but still managed to battle back to AA with an injury. So, really the only significant underperformance was Norfleet and he lost to a guy that is in the Finals and then again in the R12 Making the R12 isn’t blowing up going 0-2 is Simple truth is, Zeke has taken quite a bit of heat and they delivered very well this year. His guys showed as much grit and determination as I have seen from any of his squads. Happy to see it! Re: Norfleet - he also didn’t take a bad loss. That weight is just stacked. He would’ve AAd last year in a much weaker weight. Both guys are AAs and one is a finalist. He lost fair and square, but he is on the level to AA. Hopefully next year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,419 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 Tons to take from the tournament, but I think Schultz impressed me the most. He is a top heavy. His movement is so good. He very well could place 4th. I think Cass takes him out again, but that is definitely a match. Crazy he is only a freshman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobraves101905 138 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 Everyone has performed just about on par with what they should. Norfleet is disappointing, thought he was going to make a deep run and really surprise people. The surprise was on me, he needs to open up. Also thought McGee or Teemer would go surprisingly deep in the main bracket. Munoz was Munoz. Shows he can wrestle with the best one match then shows the lack of consistency the next. A lot to build upon there though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 Zeke gets credit for this great run but if they finish 1 or 2 points out of a trophy spot with them scoring 0 at 141 when they could’ve and should’ve had a qualifier , that really might take some shine off of this one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
