J'Den Cox Misses Weight

[Fletcher 1,130]

1 hour ago, Katie said:

This is like the Lakers banning Lebron from the NBA Finals because he showed up to a team meeting late.

This is the only correct response in the 8 pages of this thread.

[Fletcher 1,130]

If keeping track of time was a core part of the wrestling skill set, this would matter.

This isn't like other tourneys where the goal is to name a winner; here the goal is to screen for the wrestler to represent us at the Olympics. If the tourney rules interfere with that goal, you show some flexibility.

[gimpeltf 2,085]

1 hour ago, Katie said:

This is like the Lakers banning Lebron from the NBA Finals because he showed up to a team meeting late.

It's nothing at all like that.

It's more like the NBA banning him for missing a drug/covid test.

[Ogalthorpe Haywood 399]

No excuse, maybe he was scared. 

[GoNotQuietly 1,175]

<deleted> wrong thread

Edited April 2, 2021 by GoNotQuietly

[nom 1,208]

35 minutes ago, Stl said:

Cox already gets a bye to the challenge tournament finals. If anything, wrestling that match at a later date would probably be preferable to his opponent, because then they get to wrestle it fresh

Incorrect.  Bye to semifinals.  

[Fletcher 1,130]

6 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

It's nothing at all like that.

It's more like the NBA banning him for missing a drug/covid test.

You've got the analogy wrong. Team USA = Lakers; Olympics = NBA

When choosing players for your team, you don't self-sabotage by tripping them up with technicalities.

[gimpeltf 2,085]

5 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

You've got the analogy wrong. Team USA = Lakers; Olympics = NBA

When choosing players for your team, you don't self-sabotage by tripping them up with technicalities.

No, The NBA runs the NBA not the Lakers. Yes, in theory the Lakers could ban LBJ as mentioned but the Lakers aren't the governing body.

[ConnorsDad 596]

22 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

This is the only correct response in the 8 pages of this thread.

 No it's the dumbest response and absolutely has no bearing or anything remotely like the situation. She wont answer but maybe you will. Let's assume he was 1 minute late. Is that OK?  What about 2 minutes? 5? What if Snyder was 10 minutes late is that OK? There's rules out there for reason and the only people that think it's OK to break  them would be the 1st ones to bitch if they or their child or somebody close to them were involved.

[shieldofpistis 156]

21 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

This is the only correct response in the 8 pages of this thread.

What?  Comparing Cox to the 2nd best player of all time who is currently the best at age 36 and has been the best in the world for 15 years is not comparable.  James currently is the face of the most prestigious basketball franchise and without him there would be no AD. 

Maybe compare Cox to John Wall....not a multiple time world champ.  

LeBron would not be late.  He is one of most reliable stars of all time.  Wrestling would benefit from a star like LeBron. 

[NJDan 1,113]

Macchiavello beats Albert Ferrari. BTW, who is Albert Ferrari?

[ionel 2,730]

If going to consider giving Cox a break shouldn't we say Ferrari won his match?  He was only 1/2 second late.  ;_;

[MagnetBack 65]

3 minutes ago, NJDan said:

Macchiavello beats Albert Ferrari. BTW, who is Albert Ferrari?

Impressive performance for Ferrari! Didn't expect him to be competitive. 

[madcat11 436]

17 minutes ago, NJDan said:

Macchiavello beats Albert Ferrari. BTW, who is Albert Ferrari?

Famous deadlifter

[Red95 80]

Announcers just confirmed that Cox has filed an appeal.

[TripNSweep 794]

5 minutes ago, Red95 said:

Announcers just confirmed that Cox has filed an appeal.

I wonder what that means. If they'll let him wrestle? Or maybe at a later date?

[nom 1,208]

For all those that want discretion, please simply answer these questions ...

 

Wrestler A is late to weigh in (according to the official time being kept).  Steps on scale 1 minute late but is under the weight limit.   Make an exception? 

If so, what is your allowable time frame?  5 minutes?  10 minutes?

 

Wrestler B makes it on time but is over weight by 0.1 pound (according to the official scale).   Make an exception? 

If so, what is your allowable weight allowance?  0.5 pound, 1 pound?

 

[nom 1,208]

1 minute ago, TripNSweep said:

I wonder what that means. If they'll let him wrestle? Or maybe at a later date?

Exactly.  Wrestle who?  Wrestle the OTT winner (so gets a bye to the finals)?  That would be crap.  

[JeanGuy 147]

1 minute ago, nom said:

For all those that want discretion, please simply answer these questions ...

 

Wrestler A is late to weigh in (according to the official time being kept).  Steps on scale 1 minute late but is under the weight limit.   Make an exception? 

If so, what is your allowable time frame?  5 minutes?  10 minutes?

 

Wrestler B makes it on time but is over weight by 0.1 pound (according to the official scale).   Make an exception? 

If so, what is your allowable weight allowance?  0.5 pound, 1 pound?

 

That is the question. What is the right amount of leniency? I would say that if you must weigh in at a time you need to weigh in by that time. Pretty simple concept. 

[Jimmy Cinnabon 411]

Let Cox wrestle.  As punishment, he gets toweled off during every break in the action.

Edited April 2, 2021 by Jimmy Cinnabon

[Katie 1,076]

3 minutes ago, nom said:

For all those that want discretion, please simply answer these questions ...

 

Wrestler A is late to weigh in (according to the official time being kept).  Steps on scale 1 minute late but is under the weight limit.   Make an exception? 

If so, what is your allowable time frame?  5 minutes?  10 minutes?

 

Wrestler B makes it on time but is over weight by 0.1 pound (according to the official scale).   Make an exception? 

If so, what is your allowable weight allowance?  0.5 pound, 1 pound?

 

This isn’t a legal proceeding. This is a tryout for a team. 

Discretion would mean if you fail to make weight on time, you’re done, unless a one-time, non-precedential act of discretion allows you in. 

This really isn’t a difficult concept. 

[wamba 52]

5 minutes ago, nom said:

For all those that want discretion, please simply answer these questions ...

 

Wrestler A is late to weigh in (according to the official time being kept).  Steps on scale 1 minute late but is under the weight limit.   Make an exception? 

If so, what is your allowable time frame?  5 minutes?  10 minutes?

 

Wrestler B makes it on time but is over weight by 0.1 pound (according to the official scale).   Make an exception? 

If so, what is your allowable weight allowance?  0.5 pound, 1 pound?

 

Or let’s say wrestler B missed weight by .1 lb but then 5 minutes after the deadline he makes weight.

Should he also be let in?

I get we are all frustrated but unless Cox’s camp somehow received incorrect information about the weigh in deadline I don’t think they should grant the appeal.

[TripNSweep 794]

Just now, Katie said:

This isn’t a legal proceeding. This is a tryout for a team. 

Discretion would mean if you fail to make weight on time, you’re done, unless a one-time, non-precedential act of discretion allows you in. 

This really isn’t a difficult concept. 

Maybe he thought he was on time but they closed early or somehow stopped him from weighing in again or delayed him until after time was up. Who knows what happened?

[Piper 17]

Didn't Rulon do this in 1996?

[ionel 2,730]

3 minutes ago, TripNSweep said:

Maybe he thought he was on time but they closed early or somehow stopped him from weighing in again or delayed him until after time was up. Who knows what happened?

Or maybe he simply did not make weight on time.