Nick Lee!

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6 hours ago, John Morgan said:

I am not sure how usaw or the universities handle this with the athlete.  It is earned income so maybe they defer it or apply to tuition, etc.  I'll let someone in the know answer this.

Read this story. It explains how the collage athletes are allowed to get money for making the team.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/02/paying-ncaa-college-athletes-at-rio-olympics-kyle-snyder-katie-ledecky/87709714/

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[TBar1977 3,953]

9 hours ago, southend said:

So......what is there to gain for Zain or Yianni, if they did beat Lee? Something we don’t know? 
Or is it more on line with a moral victory ?  Not sure there is a second prize ,with not making the team.  1 winner, the rest losers. 

So you think Yianni getting drilled by Nick Lee isn't losing something?

[southend 174]

A loss is a loss. In the scheme of things, in this situation, not too meaningful. As was the win, it counts, but the prize was not for first. 
The results ,go on all their respective resumes for bragging rights. 

[John Morgan 38]

Just now, southend said:

A loss is a loss. In the scheme of things, in this situation, not too meaningful. As was the win, it counts, but the prize was not for first. 
The results ,go on all their respective resumes for bragging rights. 

And of course, top 3 are National Team Members for a year...monthly $ stipend, first to get invitations to overseas international competitions, etc. 

[John Morgan 38]

I don't know what the exact amounts are but JO gets the most $ and benefits, then McKenna, then Lee.  Yianni and Zain get exactly $0.

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37 minutes ago, John Morgan said:

I don't know what the exact amounts are but JO gets the most $ and benefits, then McKenna, then Lee.  Yianni and Zain get exactly $0.

Comparing what we know the benefits of winning to be to what others imagine the mindset of the athletes to be will always end in frustration. You cannot prove their imaginations wrong. And once they commit to them in writing they cannot go back.

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9 hours ago, TBar1977 said:

So you think Yianni getting drilled by Nick Lee isn't losing something?

He already lost everything before he wrestled that match, so nothing significant.

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4 hours ago, Plasmodium said:

He already lost everything before he wrestled that match, so nothing significant.

Maybe Yianni should just have FF again so you all could go on believing he'd have beaten Lee anyway. That way you wouldn't have to make rationalizations for him.

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Yianni was more interested in the arena nachos at that point. 

[NJDan 671]

5 minutes ago, scribe said:

Yianni was more interested in the arena nachos at that point. 

As he should be. I hear the nachos were excellent.

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Misc thoughts

1. 'Inside the mind of JO' as he breaks down the Nick Lee match is fascinating to listen to. (BASCHAMANIA podcast) JO says Nick Lee is crazy good and strong.
2. Nick Lee's run almost did not happen.  Nahshon Garrett sure looked to have Nick Lee pinned on the cons and the ref refused to call it.

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1 hour ago, jross said:

Misc thoughts

1. 'Inside the mind of JO' as he breaks down the Nick Lee match is fascinating to listen to. (BASCHAMANIA podcast) JO says Nick Lee is crazy good and strong.
2. Nick Lee's run almost did not happen.  Nahshon Garrett sure looked to have Nick Lee pinned on the cons and the ref refused to call it.

That "pin" was even further from a pin than Eierman's "pin" of Tariq Wilson.

Unless Lee or Wilson have shoulder blades that are capable of extending through the arms directly under between them and the mat, no, not a pin.

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58 minutes ago, Le duke said:

That "pin" was even further from a pin than Eierman's "pin" of Tariq Wilson.

Unless Lee or Wilson have shoulder blades that are capable of extending through the arms directly under between them and the mat, no, not a pin.

You might be right about Garrett's arm preventing the pinfall.  Lee looked flat as a pancake.  Garrett said he thought he had the pin "in his humble opinion".  Do you know where to find the video?  I have the evening sessions recorded but not the morning sessions.  I was sure convinced Lee was pinned in real-time... PSU fans went from obnoxious to deathly silent... the ref couldn't hear me from the upper bowl... Lee was more pinned than several touch and phantom pins called...

The phantom Tariq pin was top of mind at the moment... I thought Lee sure looks a whole lot more pinned than Tariq... real-time Tariq observation wasn't a pin... video playback wasn't a pin... though Eierman called it a pin "He was there." 

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Because you think Lee was pinned his 3rd place should definitely be taken away from him.  His wins against all the other contestants shouldn't count because, well, you think he was pinned in a different match.  Who takes 3rd then all wise one?

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1 hour ago, dman115 said:

Because you think Lee was pinned his 3rd place should definitely be taken away from him.  His wins against all the other contestants shouldn't count because, well, you think he was pinned in a different match.  Who takes 3rd then all wise one?

Lee had an outstanding tourny.  Nothing changes.  Similar to J. Warner at NCAAs... can't take anything away... but yeah he sure looked pinned.  In a world where people point out the one mistake amidst the 99 things done right...