shieldofpistis 154 Report post Posted April 6 In my opinion I think there is certain prestige in having best wrestler. For the Snyder years the best ohio state wrestler could defeat the best Penn st wrestler. I think the school with the best heavy gets overlooked. I realize best heavy not always best wrestler. Iowa won team title, Penn st most individual titles, but Minnesota has the best overall wrestler by a mile. With all this Iowa vs Penn st rivalry going on, I think credit is getting lost for Minnesota. I know it's not the same as having the best team but congrats to Minnesota for helping Steveson become man who would beat anyone on Iowa and Penn states or anyone else's roster or rtc in states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,016 Report post Posted April 6 One outstanding wrestler does not make a team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,643 Report post Posted April 6 39 minutes ago, TobusRex said: One outstanding wrestler does not make a team. 3 TheOhioState, JHRoseWrestling and HurricaneWrestling2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackwebster 137 Report post Posted April 6 (edited) 7 hours ago, TobusRex said: One outstanding wrestler does not make a team. Yeah, but I get the point. It's like: Look what we can do if only x, y, and z. We have the formula to make the supreme wrestler. You guys can train-up a bunch of solid competitors, but you didn't make a Gable Steveson. The rebuttal is obvious: no single program made a Gable Steveson, Spencer Lee, Jordan Burroughs, or Cael Sanderson. They are freaks. I just had my first D1 AA this year. And as soon as I said that to myself, I realized that it was his achievement not our program's. Edited April 6 by jackwebster 6 wrestlingphish, dman115, BadgerMon and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konquest 122 Report post Posted April 6 I think the "Prestige" for the program isn't when they meet expectations with a surefire blue-chipper (like a 3/4x state champ, Fargo champ, etc.), but when they develop under-the-radar recruits into AA's and national champs ala Drew Foster or Jesse Delavecchia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,016 Report post Posted April 6 7 hours ago, jackwebster said: I just had my first D1 AA this year. And as soon as I said that to myself, I realized that it was his achievement not our program's. Congrats. May he just be the first of many. 1 jackwebster reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,016 Report post Posted April 6 9 hours ago, gimpeltf said: Who was that dude? Assuming he's dead since that picture looks like it was taken 90 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,617 Report post Posted April 6 13 minutes ago, TobusRex said: Who was that dude? Assuming he's dead since that picture looks like it was taken 90 years ago. David Taylor. Look at the ears! Sheesh, get with it, man.... 1 1 BadgerMon and stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,643 Report post Posted April 6 14 minutes ago, TobusRex said: Who was that dude? Assuming he's dead since that picture looks like it was taken 90 years ago. Robin Reed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Reed You said one man didn't make a team. This guy could. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,016 Report post Posted April 6 21 minutes ago, gimpeltf said: Robin Reed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Reed You said one man didn't make a team. This guy could. Damn, straight up badass.. 140 pounds but wrestled 170 :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,016 Report post Posted April 6 25 minutes ago, MSU158 said: David Taylor. Look at the ears! Sheesh, get with it, man.... The last time I saw ears like that they were attached to a Doberman Pinscher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,617 Report post Posted April 6 41 minutes ago, TobusRex said: The last time I saw ears like that they were attached to a Doberman Pinscher. The reason they were/are so good. Damn things can literally lift them off the ground with a quick flap! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dman115 180 Report post Posted April 7 19 hours ago, Konquest said: I think the "Prestige" for the program isn't when they meet expectations with a surefire blue-chipper (like a 3/4x state champ, Fargo champ, etc.), but when they develop under-the-radar recruits into AA's and national champs ala Drew Foster or Jesse Delavecchia. Prestige isn't associated with being able to get the surefire blue-chippers?? Or is success only gaged on developing those who weren't blue-chippers?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOhioState 486 Report post Posted April 7 On 4/6/2021 at 6:29 AM, gimpeltf said: He later played Jimmy Chitwood in Hoosiers. 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShakaAloha 210 Report post Posted April 7 Just now, TheOhioState said: He later played Jimmy Chitwood in Hoosiers. I thought you wrote Jimmy Cinnabuns there for a sec lol 1 TheOhioState reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOhioState 486 Report post Posted April 7 Older thread: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,643 Report post Posted April 7 14 minutes ago, TheOhioState said: Older thread: My understanding is that the rules back then were more lenient with submission/choke type holds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,085 Report post Posted April 7 (edited) the whole point of this stupid topic is the OP slipping in Gable being the best wrestler "by a mile", when he isn't even the best wrestler. Edited April 7 by hammerlockthree 1 HarryConnickJr reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites