Jimmy Cinnabon 265 Report post Posted April 6 A broad dichotomy Archetype of technician is David Taylor. During college he was rather lanky and scrawny. Dominated through flawless technique and pace. I am including in this category wrestlers that win via pace and high motor, but not through pure power/explosiveness. Archetype of physical freak is Kyle Dake. Just overwhelmingly powerful and impossible to move out of position. Technicians: Cael Mark Hall David Taylor Jason Nolf Nick Lee Yianni Kemerer Wick Kerkvliet Moore Desanto Physical Freaks: JB Dake Zain Lee Nickal Snyder Cox RBY Ferrari Steveson Ruth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piper 9 Report post Posted April 6 Imho Steveson doesn't get enough credit for his technique. He's always in good position and his timing is what sets him apart. 6 Big Nasty, uncle bernard, Hazeydave and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 622 Report post Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Piper said: Imho Steveson doesn't get enough credit for his technique. He's always in good position and his timing is what sets him apart. Nobody moves their feet and hands together better than Gable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,016 Report post Posted April 7 3 hours ago, Piper said: Imho Steveson doesn't get enough credit for his technique. He's always in good position and his timing is what sets him apart. He's very solid. He's a better athlete and a better wrestler than anyone he faced this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matts1w 121 Report post Posted April 7 I would submit that everybody you have listed above is both a physical freak and an amazing technician. 4 Le duke, Waxpacks, jackwebster and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,739 Report post Posted April 7 Desanto technician over physical freak? Lol 1 simple reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matts1w 121 Report post Posted April 7 I dont think you get to his level without both. 1 jackwebster reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNorth 231 Report post Posted April 7 (edited) I admit I spent very little time fixing it... so it isn't great, but it's better than the original list. Here it is... Jerks that won't pay their debts and can't be trusted: Jimmy Cinnabon Technicians: Mark Hall David Taylor Jason Nolf Nick Lee Yianni Kemerer Wick Kerkvliet Moore Physical Freaks: Desanto Ferrari Zain Both Technicians and Physical Freaks: Cael JB Dake Lee Nickal Snyder Cox RBY Steveson Ruth Edited April 7 by GreatWhiteNorth 3 jchapman, IfYouAin'tFirstYou'reLast and RealAmericanHero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackwebster 137 Report post Posted April 7 (edited) As somebody pointed out in another thread while alluding to something Jamill Kelly said: when you don't understand how a technique could possibly work then it's bc the guy has inhuman stength / flexibility/ physical freakishness. So, I tend to agree with the folks who say it's difficult to separate the two attributes. Youre a great technician because youre also a physical freak, and youre a physical freak bc youre also a great technician. Edited April 7 by jackwebster 1 matts1w reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southend 176 Report post Posted April 7 2 hours ago, jackwebster said: As somebody pointed out in another thread while alluding to something Jamill Kelly said: when you don't understand how a technique could possibly work then it's bc the guy has inhuman stength / flexibility/ physical freakishness. So, I tend to agree with the folks who say it's difficult to separate the two attributes. Youre a great technician because youre also a physical freak, and youre a physical freak bc youre also a great technician. Adding to this ,is a third and equal to theses attributes. High IQ. 1 jackwebster reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bearcat09 5 Report post Posted April 7 I think a good way to bifurcate the two would be to look at the highs and lows of peoples careers. Dake and Taylor were peanuts when they were dominating - now they're dominating even more as monsters. JB became untouchable as he physically matured and as he heads towards the end of his physical peak he's seeing some slight declines in success. Snyder has always been a physical specimen so he's harder to pick. I'm surprised to see Bo Nickal on the physical freak list as his style gave his competition similar fits between a 174lb freshman and 197lb senior and I think he could continue to have similar success well past his physically peak - like an Askren. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,016 Report post Posted April 7 The physical freaks usually win out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lunaticfringe 31 Report post Posted April 7 Physical freaks Mark Schultz Troy Letters Tony Nelson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackwebster 137 Report post Posted April 7 Are we just listing folks now? American physical freaks: John Smith Chris Fleeger Tony Purler Azeri freaks: Jabrayil Hasanov Toghrul Asgarov Haji Aliyev Russian freaks: Malvet Batirov Makhach Murtazaliev Khadzhimurat Gatsalov Czech freaks: Bohumil Hrabal Jaroslav Hasek Franz Ka . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites