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9 hours ago, Mphillips said:

For that matter, don't shoot at the goalie in any sport. Makes it hard to score.

Yes... but that ball can REALLY hurt, and make a timid goalie shy away from future shots, making future shots much easier to score.  a "set-up" if you will.

(it is possible that this was a rule for the league my daughter played in and that I had the displeasure of watching)

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10 minutes ago, AHamilton said:

Yes... but that ball can REALLY hurt, and make a timid goalie shy away from future shots, making future shots much easier to score.  a "set-up" if you will.

(it is possible that this was a rule for the league my daughter played in and that I had the displeasure of watching)

I gotcha. If it REALLY hurts, you can then just shoot at the goalie and she will dive out of the way to avoid being hit. I like it.

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5 minutes ago, Mphillips said:

I gotcha. If it REALLY hurts, you can then just shoot at the goalie and she will dive out of the way to avoid being hit. I like it.

Again, it may have just been the case in my daughter's league.  Terrible sport to watch, at least at that level.

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On 5/11/2021 at 2:42 PM, AHamilton said:

Alleged murder.  Ear bite.  Arranging for another wrestler slip one of Kumar's rivals a PED mickey.  And that is just what I am aware of.

Can you elaborate or link something to this?  Sounds pretty crazy.  I had never heard of that but it sounds interesting

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43 minutes ago, olddirty said:

Can you elaborate or link something to this?  Sounds pretty crazy.  I had never heard of that but it sounds interesting

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-wrestling-india/india-wrestler-yadav-says-foul-play-behind-failed-test-idUSKCN1050DK

I generally don't believe in doping excuses. However, if Kumar is involved, I think I have to lend it some credence.

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3 hours ago, AHamilton said:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-wrestling-india/india-wrestler-yadav-says-foul-play-behind-failed-test-idUSKCN1050DK

I generally don't believe in doping excuses. However, if Kumar is involved, I think I have to lend it some credence.

Yeah I think they talked about that on FRL. I think Pyles called it being “poisoned” which created a discussion around what it should be called.  Sabotaged (from that article) sounds good.

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5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Yeah I think they talked about that on FRL. I think Pyles called it being “poisoned” which created a discussion around what it should be called.  Sabotaged (from that article) sounds good.

Pyles embraces the true spirit of modern media in his relationship with and communication of the facts...

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On 5/14/2021 at 8:10 AM, AHamilton said:

Again, it may have just been the case in my daughter's league.  Terrible sport to watch, at least at that level.

I grew up in Corning, NY, one of the real hotbeds of lacrosse.  After college, I moved away.  About 20 years later, my wife and I visited my parents for a few days.  I took her to see some box lacrosse at the Civic Center.  The goalies look like hockey goalies about 6' tall and 6' wide with their gear.  How anyone scores in the 4' sq goals is beyond me, but they do.  In the second game, one of the goalies was a skinny young man with only gloves, elbow pads and knee pads, and helmet on.  As soon as the other team missed a shot, he'd head toward the other goal as a sixth attacker 100 miles per hour.  I looked over a few seats and saw a friend I went to high school with, a high school and college all american lacrosse player.  I went over and talked to him, and lo and behold, the goalie/attacker was his son, also a college all american attackman.  My wife and I went down with my high school friend and met his son after the game.  He had a couple of huge welts from getting hit with shots, but caught most in his stick or deflected them with his elbow or knee pads.  My buddy said, yeah we taught him to play a little differently.  What an understatement.  Trust me, with high school and college all americans all over the place on that small playing area with a lightning quick attackman playing one goal, that was very cool to watch.

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4 minutes ago, BerniePragle said:

I grew up in Corning, NY, one of the real hotbeds of lacrosse.  After college, I moved away.  About 20 years later, my wife and I visited my parents for a few days.  I took her to see some box lacrosse at the Civic Center.  The goalies look like hockey goalies about 6' tall and 6' wide with their gear.  How anyone scores in the 4' sq goals is beyond me, but they do.  In the second game, one of the goalies was a skinny young man with only gloves, elbow pads and knee pads, and helmet on.  As soon as the other team missed a shot, he'd head toward the other goal as a sixth attacker 100 miles per hour.  I looked over a few seats and saw a friend I went to high school with, a high school and college all american lacrosse player.  I went over and talked to him, and lo and behold, the goalie/attacker was his son, also a college all american attackman.  My wife and I went down with my high school friend and met his son after the game.  He had a couple of huge welts from getting hit with shots, but caught most in his stick or deflected them with his elbow or knee pads.  My buddy said, yeah we taught him to play a little differently.  What an understatement.  Trust me, with high school and college all americans all over the place on that small playing area with a lightning quick attackman playing one goal, that was very cool to watch.

I bet! I coached for six years.  I was an assistant to  some college studs from top programs and saw some great athletes.  In fact, one of our athletes played several years in the NHL.  He was a surgeon with that D stick.  Put him on the other team's best player and watch him go to work.

And I get what you are saying about the keeper.  He should really be the best athlete on the field.

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22 minutes ago, AHamilton said:

I bet! I coached for six years.  I was an assistant to  some college studs from top programs and saw some great athletes.  In fact, one of our athletes played several years in the NHL.  He was a surgeon with that D stick.  Put him on the other team's best player and watch him go to work.

And I get what you are saying about the keeper.  He should really be the best athlete on the field.

One time back in about '73 I walked down to watch a game at Cornell (I was there studying Physics, not wrestling or lacrosse!).  One of the defensemen for Cornell was absolutely mugging one of the attackers for the other team.  There was a dad there rooting his son, the mugger, on.  Another dad asked him if that was his son.  He said yes, then the other guy said, I can't believe the ref is letting him get away with that.  The mugger's dad said, the ref is the one that taught him to do that.  That was funny.  The lacrosse world was a lot smaller back then.

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19 minutes ago, BerniePragle said:

One time back in about '73 I walked down to watch a game at Cornell (I was there studying Physics, not wrestling or lacrosse!).  One of the defensemen for Cornell was absolutely mugging one of the attackers for the other team.  There was a dad there rooting his son, the mugger, on.  Another dad asked him if that was his son.  He said yes, then the other guy said, I can't believe the ref is letting him get away with that.  The mugger's dad said, the ref is the one that taught him to do that.  That was funny.  The lacrosse world was a lot smaller back then.

That's before my time, but in my day it was Long Island and Maryland as the capitals with a little VA, NC, upstate NY thrown in, along with some prep schools.  Everyone seemed to know each other.  I would turn on the NCAAs and see guys I coaches against (in wrestling and lax) playing lax for schools like Princeton and Harvard.

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On 5/18/2021 at 8:39 PM, AHamilton said:

That's before my time, but in my day it was Long Island and Maryland as the capitals with a little VA, NC, upstate NY thrown in, along with some prep schools.  Everyone seemed to know each other.  I would turn on the NCAAs and see guys I coaches against (in wrestling and lax) playing lax for schools like Princeton and Harvard.

When i played water polo our coach gave us strict instruction that the first shot of every game goes in the goalie's face. Didn't matter if you were in alone on a break away. First shot in the mush, period. It has a funny way of shortening their wingspan on future attempts.

It worked pretty well until we played a team from Portage Park in Chicago. Their goalie was a guy named Jack who we knew well from swim meets. We also knew he was a little off. After the first shot to the face, he just yelled for more.

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16 minutes ago, madcat11 said:

Is the glass museum worth checking out?

I'm not really sure how to answer that.  I had been there maybe 4 or 5 times (mostly as a child) and thought it was pretty cool.  Then about 2 or 3 years ago I took my 2 grandsons there.  It had all been redone a few years earlier.  It was beautiful and immaculately clean, but to be honest, it was boring for me.  They have a glassblowing demo in a big auditorium I think every hour.  There are numerous other smaller demos there.  There are many displays about the history of glass, making of windows, light bulbs, etc.  There are displays of glass art and sculpture.  It seemed to lack the charm, the magic, from before.  Maybe I'm just getting older.  If you do decide to go, there are also many other things to check out in the area... Harris Hill glider museum, Glenn Curtiss aviation museum, The Warplane museum, many state parks, scenery.  The Finger Lakes and Northcentral PA is a beautiful area.

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I ran an Xmas tournament for over a decade and each participant got a free t-shirt. I would put a pic of a world champ on each. I was infatuated with this guy, esp this single finish that he had, and I put him on the shirt. I'm embarrassed now. I had no idea that he was such a despicable person. The only non-wrestling thing I knew about him was that he was a vegan and appeared in a PETA ad. I should have done more research.

Wtf eating animals bad; cheating, biting, killing your fellow man ok?

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On 5/25/2021 at 11:33 AM, jackwebster said:

I ran an Xmas tournament for over a decade and each participant got a free t-shirt. I would put a pic of a world champ on each. I was infatuated with this guy, esp this single finish that he had, and I put him on the shirt. I'm embarrassed now. I had no idea that he was such a despicable person. The only non-wrestling thing I knew about him was that he was a vegan and appeared in a PETA ad. I should have done more research.

Wtf eating animals bad; cheating, biting, killing your fellow man ok?

I read an article from India that hinted he had ties to organized crime and was involved in shady business dealings. 

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