Lurker 2,033 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, wrestlingphish said: It might be helpful if you actually look at the post I was responding to (which I had quoted) that is more focused around TV exposure and streaming deals not the NYT article. Also, I am not saying that wrestling's leadership is a colossal failure. I am saying that if wrestling is as amazing and as exciting as we say it is, we should be farther along than the cornhole crew. The other side of that coin is that wrestling is not as exciting to the masses as we think it is and the fine folks at USA wrestling are doing the best they can with a bad hand. I know what post you were quoting. And...you actually did say...."then those in charge are colossal failures". I mean...word for word. But you chose to leave out the 'other side of the coin' first time, until something was said. But fair enough, to each their own. Have a great Taco Tuesday!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 cornhole and other "sports" get on TV because they pay to get on TV and then the networks are able to sell ads during that time slot... if anyone expects USAW to spend their ridiculously limited budget on paying the ocho to condense an event into 22 minutes to get on TV for no one to really watch it past those of us who already tdo, then, trust me when i say, my bridge is awesome and i will make you a great deal on it... 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,033 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, LJB said: cornhole and other "sports" get on TV because they pay to get on TV and then the networks are able to sell ads during that time slot... if anyone expects USAW to spend their ridiculously limited budget on paying the ocho to condense an event into 22 minutes to get on TV for no one to really watch it past those of us who already tdo, then, trust me when i say, my bridge is awesome and i will make you a great deal on it... nm, Edited June 29, 2021 by Lurker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lurker said: nm, that was good for a chuckle... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,033 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, LJB said: that was good for a chuckle... Did you get in before I edited? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lurker said: Did you get in before I edited? nah... but... it still made me chuckle... all i'm looking for... 1 Lurker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,033 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, LJB said: nah... but... it still made me chuckle... all i'm looking for... Yes, I sometimes edit one minute after posting... Yes, I sometimes wear my hat backwards... BUT...I still use these................................................................................................................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, Lurker said: Yes, I sometimes edit one minute after posting... Yes, I sometimes wear my hat backwards... BUT...I still use these................................................................................................................. i knew you were a closet backwards hat guy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 1,011 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Lurker said: I know what post you were quoting. And...you actually did say...."then those in charge are colossal failures". I mean...word for word. But you chose to leave out the 'other side of the coin' first time, until something was said. But fair enough, to each their own. Have a great Taco Tuesday!! Again, you leave out important context and for some reason. I said that 'if wrestling is as exciting as we claim it to be'. Is wrestling as exciting as we claim it to be? If yes, then I did call them colossal failures. If no, then they are not. I didn't spell it out the first time because I didn't realize I needed to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted June 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, wrestlingphish said: Again, you leave out important context and for some reason. I said that 'if wrestling is as exciting as we claim it to be'. Is wrestling as exciting as we claim it to be? If yes, then I did call them colossal failures. If no, then they are not. I didn't spell it out the first time because I didn't realize I needed to. my dear old grand pappy would call that a crawdaddy... making a weak attempt to compare anything wrestling wise to a game that is outside every restaurant, 20 alongside each other in every white suburban neighborhood park, in 75% of suburban backyards, played by every drunk college kid in a schmedium shirt and backwards hat, and can be somewhat relatable to most overweight frustrated ex-nobodies living a life of quiet desperation and slamming black labels late on a saturday night instead of stumbling upstairs to the wife who he hates and who despises him is the actual indictment... but... whatever... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 464 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/27/2021 at 7:14 PM, AnklePicker said: What about abnormal people who have never wrestled? I thought abnormal people and wrestlers was a single Venn circle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 1,168 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/27/2021 at 6:01 PM, Katie said: Normal people who never wrestled do not enjoy watching wrestling. It’s just not spectator friendly. That’s just the truth. Football and Futbol are the two most boring spectator sports on Earth, so I think popularity is much more culturally influenced than anything. 1 Relentless125 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry 102 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 Why would anyone read the New York Times? 1 southend reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 1,011 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, GoNotQuietly said: Football and Futbol are the two most boring spectator sports on Earth, so I think popularity is much more culturally influenced than anything. Maybe those sports are incredibly exciting as spectator sports and you've been culturally influenced to devalue the type of excitement they provide in favor of something that is held in higher regard in your culture? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 479 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Henry said: Why would anyone read the New York Times? Because it’s a good way to gauge the tone of the country without suffering through a vox or salon pos Edited June 30, 2021 by jp157 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 1,168 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, wrestlingphish said: Maybe those sports are incredibly exciting as spectator sports and you've been culturally influenced to devalue the type of excitement they provide in favor of something that is held in higher regard in your culture? Average play time in NFL Game: 11 Minutes Average goals in a World Cup Soccer Match: 2.3 I don't see any reason to believe that these are inherently more exciting than wrestling, we just have to find a way for people to get even more drunk and tribal around a mat. 1 Plasmodium reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry 102 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 33 minutes ago, jp157 said: Because it’s a good way to gauge the tone of the country without suffering through a vox or salon pos Tone of the country. That's hilarious. 1 southend reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 730 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, GoNotQuietly said: Average play time in NFL Game: 11 Minutes Average goals in a World Cup Soccer Match: 2.3 I don't see any reason to believe that these are inherently more exciting than wrestling, we just have to find a way for people to get even more drunk and tribal around a mat. Is a sixty-second neutral scramble that results in zero points awarded not "exciting?" The same goes for soccer: there is far more to the game than the goals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnklePicker 643 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Henry said: Why would anyone read the New York Times? Because they actually enjoy reading real news articles. Not to mention it’s the best newspaper on the planet. 1 southend reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry 102 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, AnklePicker said: Because they actually enjoy reading real news articles. Not to mention it’s the best newspaper on the planet. Being "...the best newspaper on the planet" is akin to being the best smelling turd. 1 southend reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnklePicker 643 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Henry said: Being "...the best newspaper on the planet" is akin to being the best smelling turd. Keep getting your news from Facebook buddy, I’m sure it’s more accurate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 479 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Henry said: Tone of the country. That's hilarious. As someone who’s lived in both “rural conservative merica”. And in the “liberal decadent cities”. It actually does.. Though I’m not a mental weakling and actually look at the news and views of different sources. I actually actively work to understand why those I don’t agree with or even despise think the way they do. 1 southend reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 1,168 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 3 hours ago, klehner said: Is a sixty-second neutral scramble that results in zero points awarded not "exciting?" The same goes for soccer: there is far more to the game than the goals. I was just kidding; I have nothing but love for Soccer, just pushing back on the "wrestling isn't popular because it isn't exciting" idea. I think the popularity of sports has very little to do with anything intrinsic to the actual sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry 102 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, AnklePicker said: Keep getting your news from Facebook buddy, I’m sure it’s more accurate. Facebook? How old are you? Just curious because my grandparents have FB accounts but I do not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry 102 Report post Posted June 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, jp157 said: Though I’m not a mental weakling and actually look at the news and views of different sources Your dedication and veracity are truly admirable. You are a beacon to us feeble minded folk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
