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College Players May Make Money Off Their Fame, Powerful N.C.A.A. Panel Recommends

Pressured by a wave of state laws taking effect on July 1, the college sports industry is on the verge of letting players profit off their names, images and likenesses. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/sports/ncaabasketball/college-athletes-pay.html

It will be interesting to see who cashes in.

 

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I talked about this in another thread that this is HUGE. It’s not just the Yianni/Gable/Lee types that could benefit greatly from this, a lot of college wrestlers you have never heard of will benefit from this. I’ll throw out just one scenario, one of many:

D-2 2x all-American from farm town Indiana is now able to go back to his home town over Christmas and do a clinic/camp and keep the proceeds. Particularly in the small towns, these guys can be paid for speaking engagements, ‘All-American breakfast”, auction for a round of golf. Stuff like that. They’ll get paid and the small town folk will be more than happy to support it. 
 

Again, just one scenario. 

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1 hour ago, Lurker said:

. I’ll throw out just one scenario, one of many:

D-2 2x all-American from farm town Indiana is now able to go back to his home town over Christmas and do a clinic/camp and keep the proceeds. 
 

They keep the proceeds now.

 

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3 minutes ago, KCMO2 said:

They keep the proceeds now.

 

The sentence you focused on was but a small piece in combination of the rest that you deleted in responding.  I think everyone gets the picture.  Thank you for the input.

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Not sure this will turn into a bonanza for wrestlers. Definitely cashing in on camp appearances will happen. There isn’t a wrestling program in the county that is self supporting. Sure PSU packs them in at Rec Hall but expenses exceed revenue. Wrestling is not a money sport. I can see a wealthy alum paying for the athlete’s image just to encourage the wrestler to attend a particular school. For sure football & basketball players will make out because those sports generate billions in revenue. I am rambling here…so much is unknown on how this will play out. 

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4 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

Depends on how many people with money like cauliflower ears!

Pretty guys like Tom Brady do better than some ugly mean looking linebacker. I’m seeing more wrestlers with normal ears. Times are changing. 

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Anyone that can get enough followers on Twitter/Instagram etc can monetize. I assume any NCAA athlete can do that now. Their might be a few wrestlers that have enough followers to make some money, but I can’t imagine all that much (unless they have a ton of followers unrelated to wrestling).

There have also been cases in the past of college athletes having to forfeit/not accept money they would have earned from something unrelated to their NCAA sport. For example there was a football player from Notre Dame that I think may have fought a professional boxing match. Or Jeremy Bloom played football at Colorado and was also a competitive skier. I don’t remember the details but I believe the NCAA prevented him from some sort of money he would have made through skiing. 

Hopefully all of these scenarios will now be treated differently.

Edited by BuckyBadger

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I wrote about this a little bit and tallied up social media following for a few wrestlers here: https://www.d3wrestle.com/can-wrestlers-make-money-with-nil/

Gable, Lee, RBY, and Yianni (over 100K Instagram followers each) are in a position to make non-trivial amounts on sponsored posts with very little effort. I linked to a calculator that guesses what someone can make off Instagram. Even if it's accurate (I'm not sure it is), I expect the marketplace to saturate a little bit with college athletes, so the numbers may go down a bit. 

I think you can guess what companies will be interested in college wrestlers for broader endorsement deals. It's the same ones who are interested in the post-college guys. ScrapLife, Sticker Mule, Cliff Keen, Rudis. Some schools have partnered with companies like Opendorse to help athletes find opportunities for NIL deals. 

The various state laws and institutional policies will also affect what athletes can do. ScrapLife may not be able to sign a deal with a wrestler at a Nike school in some states. Here in Ohio where I live, the governor just signed an executive order that allows athletes to profit from NIL but does not let them sign deals with marijuana, alcohol, vaping, porn, or gambling companies. 

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A few will reap benefits, but my guess is that this will turn out to be a disaster.  The team dynamic will suffer if you have one or two kids focusing on the $ aspect of the sport while everyone else is solely focused on getting the job done.  I see this as a major distraction, that will benefit so few that we would all be better off if it never happened.

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33 minutes ago, RED said:

The team dynamic will suffer if you have one or two kids focusing on the $ aspect of the sport while everyone else is solely focused on getting the job done. I see this as a major distraction, that will benefit so few that we would all be better off if it never happened.

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. Guys aren't going to be taking calls from their agents during practice. Also, the incentives line up. How do you get to cash in? By winning so your name has value. I believe that is the job you're talking about getting done. 

Who is the "we" that would be better off if this didn't happen? It's not the athletes who are getting paid. It's not the fans for whom nothing will change other than maybe seeing a few sponsored social media posts. Life as a college student is full of "distractions" and it's up to each student to manage them, whether it's social media, video games, Netflix, partying, or earning money. That last one seems perhaps more worthwhile than the others.

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7 hours ago, RED said:

A few will reap benefits, but my guess is that this will turn out to be a disaster.  The team dynamic will suffer if you have one or two kids focusing on the $ aspect of the sport while everyone else is solely focused on getting the job done.  I see this as a major distraction, that will benefit so few that we would all be better off if it never happened.

EDIT: Personally, I don’t believe that the labor market should be fixed so that college athletes should be forcibly denied normal returns on their labor — even many types of labor that have nothing to do with athletics. 

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How do you know what he believes? He just expressed his opinion... and to the best of my knowledge, despite his moniker, he isn't a communist either.

Show a little respect for the guy who's battling w/ cancer, eh?

D3

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2 hours ago, D3 for LU said:

How do you know what he believes? He just expressed his opinion... and to the best of my knowledge, despite his moniker, he isn't a communist either.

Show a little respect for the guy who's battling w/ cancer, eh?

D3

Did not know about the health issue. Godspeed.

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41 minutes ago, headshuck said:

Lay off RED. I’ll bet a lot of coaches are concerned about the possible distraction initially. Same coaches are probably happy for their student/athletes long term.

Good point. If wrestling coaches believe that the labor market should be fixed in order to make athletes more impoverished than they otherwise would be, who are we to disagree?  

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