NJDan 1,069 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 The USA is kicking ass so far. Do folks think that cadet results are too insignificant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,667 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 We're talking about it in the Iran thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,069 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mphillips said: We're talking about it in the Iran thread. You are talking about the USA kicking ass in the Iran thread? Good to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,667 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 I am. No one else was talking about it and I notice you didn't start a thread. I have no issues with the Iran thread. Wrestling is wrestling. 1 nhs67 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,069 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Mphillips said: I am. No one else was talking about it and I notice you didn't start a thread. I have no issues with the Iran thread. Wrestling is wrestling. I have no issues with it either. I just assumed it was about Iran's team. 1 flyingcement reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voice_of_the_Quakers 127 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 Thrilled with the wins over Russia in Day 1. Don't know enough about any of our guys or anyone else's to make any other comments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
window12 45 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 interesting Final match between USA and Iran coming up at 110 Kg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,872 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, window12 said: interesting Final match between USA and Iran coming up at 110 Kg Not so much, man Iran just DOMINATES that the underhook and push to the edge of the mat. Quick tech for Iran, that kid was impressive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 i watched my guy lilledahl in the the hotel lobby before i put the kid on a shuttle to fly to hungary... shapiro is the truth... missed the other finals in route... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwwdoc 114 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, Gantry said: Not so much, man Iran just DOMINATES that the underhook and push to the edge of the mat. Quick tech for Iran, that kid was impressive. Iran overall has had a pretty poor tournament. But Masoumi at 110kg has been their beacon of light, he is the son of a world medalist, but he looks to have a higher ceiling than his dad. America has been very good overall at the tournament. 1 Gantry reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 basset tomorrow at 45kg will probably smash kill destroy... now... what he does in the men's style later this weekend interests me more... he is a hand fighting killer which is almost all you have to be to succeed in greco here in the US, but, the rest of the world actually understands the best style... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,416 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 Just watched Bassett's semi... great job by him. But why do we allow one move to be worth 10+ points in freestyle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 obvious answer would be that there is not one move that is worth more than 5... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 1,026 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 54 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Just watched Bassett's semi... great job by him. But why do we allow one move to be worth 10+ points in freestyle? Why was Mitch Clark able to score 13 or so points on Vertus Jones with one move in NCAA finals? 4 bnwtwg, Husker_Du, Mphillips and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,224 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, 1032004 said: Just watched Bassett's semi... great job by him. But why do we allow one move to be worth 10+ points in freestyle? Hasn't always been the case. That rule changed sorta recently - within the last 20 or so years. I wouldn't disagree with an argument to change back. Laces are pretty cool, but not cool enough to generate a tech fall. 1 Relentless125 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 1,026 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Plasmodium said: Hasn't always been the case. That rule changed sorta recently - within the last 20 or so years. I wouldn't disagree with an argument to change back. Laces are pretty cool, but not cool enough to generate a tech fall. The rule has been has been back and forth, and this seems to be the best rule set since I have been watching. Don't let yourself be put in one if you don't want to be teched. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,416 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 3 hours ago, AHamilton said: Why was Mitch Clark able to score 13 or so points on Vertus Jones with one move in NCAA finals? I agree, that probably should be considered one move and only get 3 NF (at the time). I know that happens occasionally, but I think the fact that you had to go back 23 years for that example is probably proof that it’s not all that common at least in D1. Meanwhile a TD to 4 laces seems to be fairly common in FS. 1 JHRoseWrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 1,026 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, 1032004 said: I agree, that probably should be considered one move and only get 3 NF (at the time). I know that happens occasionally, but I think the fact that you had to go back 23 years for that example is probably proof that it’s not all that common at least in D1. Meanwhile a TD to 4 laces seems to be fairly common in FS. It is the most famous example. It was in the finals. It was also first period. How about Derek Moore 2007? Jesse Jantzen did ok hitting the same move over and over and over. Rarely letting go of the half. Edited July 21, 2021 by AHamilton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu1979 558 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Uwwdoc said: Iran overall has had a pretty poor tournament. But Masoumi at 110kg has been their beacon of light, he is the son of a world medalist, but he looks to have a higher ceiling than his dad. America has been very good overall at the tournament. I wouldn't say Iran had a poor tournament although I understand that their fans might be a bit disappointed. At the end of the 1st day they have a Gold a bronze and a 5th place finish for the 1st 5 weights. For the 2nd 5 weights they have 2 in the Finals and 1 in Reparcharge. Their other two are out. The USA and Russia are battling for 1st although India may still be able to break in there - regardless of where they end up in the team standings India had a truly outstanding performance - on the 1st day they ended up with 2 Golds, 1 Bronze and a 5th place for the 1st 5 weights. Tomorrow they have all 5 guys competing with 1 in the Finals 2 in Bronze medal matches and 2 in Repacharge. Both the USA and Russia have 3 guys competing tomorrow - Russia with 3 Finalists and the USA with 1 Finalist and 2 in Bronze medal matches. Russia will end up with 7 medals, the US with from 5 to 7, India from 4 to 8, and Iran from 4 to 5. India really made a statement about where their men's FS program is headed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwwdoc 114 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 8 hours ago, lu1979 said: I wouldn't say Iran had a poor tournament although I understand that their fans might be a bit disappointed. At the end of the 1st day they have a Gold a bronze and a 5th place finish for the 1st 5 weights. For the 2nd 5 weights they have 2 in the Finals and 1 in Reparcharge. Their other two are out. The USA and Russia are battling for 1st although India may still be able to break in there - regardless of where they end up in the team standings India had a truly outstanding performance - on the 1st day they ended up with 2 Golds, 1 Bronze and a 5th place for the 1st 5 weights. Tomorrow they have all 5 guys competing with 1 in the Finals 2 in Bronze medal matches and 2 in Repacharge. Both the USA and Russia have 3 guys competing tomorrow - Russia with 3 Finalists and the USA with 1 Finalist and 2 in Bronze medal matches. Russia will end up with 7 medals, the US with from 5 to 7, India from 4 to 8, and Iran from 4 to 5. India really made a statement about where their men's FS program is headed. Best Iran can do after today is 3 golds and 2 bronze. Which might be alright, but when you see that last year they put 6 wrestlers into the final compared to this year, then this year is disappointing in comparison. 1 The Genius reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffrideal 154 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Just watched Bassett's semi... great job by him. But why do we allow one move to be worth 10+ points in freestyle? To follow on that, why wasn't the action stopped as out of bounds on that lace. Not complaining, just curious why they let that continue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 1,023 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Plasmodium said: Hasn't always been the case. That rule changed sorta recently - within the last 20 or so years. I wouldn't disagree with an argument to change back. Laces are pretty cool, but not cool enough to generate a tech fall. I'm fine with the same lace leading to rapid techs, but I would like to see that a change of direction is required for more than 2 points. On the other hand, quick techs balance out against long reviews to keep overall tourney time in line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 1,075 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 To follow on that, why wasn't the action stopped as out of bounds on that lace. Not complaining, just curious why they let that continue? The rules for out of bounds are different in par terre. They are usually looking to see if the head and chest of the defending wrestler are in bounds. Since they were, wrestling continued. 1 AHamilton reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 1,026 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 Wow. Bassett. Have they located the Russian's left arm yet? I think Bassett tore it off and threw it into the stands. 1 2 infoman, 2td3nf and Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 2,093 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 He’s a bulldog... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
