BoilerUp$ 6 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 He was training with Micic in Arizona, if he went 125 at Michigan does Michigan have a chance to win it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 8 hours ago, BoilerUp$ said: He was training with Micic in Arizona, if he went 125 at Michigan does Michigan have a chance to win it? Peak performance then for UofM, and with Massa in the lineup and Lamer at 141: 125-2nd Nicky Pushups isn't beating Lee. 133-1st Micic could win. 141-5/8 Lamer is an absolute STUD. 149-5/8 Storr wins a few more of those 1 point matches 157-3/6 Lewan has the skillz 165-3/6 Amine on his cousins trajectory? 174-1st The only 174lber I don't think Massa can beat is Labs 184-1st Amine can win 197-3/6 Brucki won't have a problem with anyone's physicality. I wanted to put 1st but was tentative 285-2nd Parris isn't beating his Father. PEAK performance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Peak performance then for UofM, and with Massa in the lineup and Lamer at 141: 125-2nd Nicky Pushups isn't beating Lee. 133-1st Micic could win. 141-5/8 Lamer is an absolute STUD. 149-5/8 Storr wins a few more of those 1 point matches 157-3/6 Lewan has the skillz 165-3/6 Amine on his cousins trajectory? 174-1st The only 174lber I don't think Massa can beat is Labs 184-1st Amine can win 197-3/6 Brucki won't have a problem with anyone's physicality. I wanted to put 1st but was tentative 285-2nd Parris isn't beating his Father. PEAK performance. Suriano can absolutely beat a Spencer Lee with no ACLs 1 Perry reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Suriano can absolutely beat a Spencer Lee with no ACLs I disagree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMardigain 1,596 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 Have to admit it at least makes things more interesting. Especially when some injuries or unforeseen runs always come into play by NCAA time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: I disagree. That’s crazy…with both of them at 100 percent health it would probably only lean 55/45 in Spencer’s favor , nevermind with 2 bum knees 1 Cowboy08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: That’s crazy…with both of them at 100 percent health it would probably only lean 55/45 in Spencer’s favor , nevermind with 2 bum knees Full health is much further than 55-45. You are either a Spencer(Iowa) hater, Nicky P Fanboy(Jersey?), or delusional if you believe that. There is no datapoint that supports it being that close. Edited October 3, 2021 by nhs67 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 Why does everyone think Nicky Skeletor equals Nicky Pushups? He looked great at 57+2, not 57 and looked mediocre at 61kg against a guy that is a manlet 57kg guy before being injured himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,460 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Full health is much further than 55-45. You are either a Spencer(Iowa) hater, Nicky P Fanboy(Jersey?), or delusional if you believe that. There is no datapoint that supports it being that close. How many 125lb who won it Fr, So year managed to win in Jr & Sr year at same 125lb? Edited October 3, 2021 by ionel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, ionel said: How many 125lb who won it Fr, So year managed to win in Jr & Sr year? What? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, ionel said: How many 125lb who won it Fr, So year managed to win in Jr & Sr year? Cael, Dake to name a couple. To quote Gillerman: It is Spencer Fricken Lee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,460 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Cael, Dake to name a couple. To quote Gillerman: It is Spencer Fricken Lee. Cael and Dake wrestled 4 years in college at 125lb? Edited October 3, 2021 by ionel 1 snapspinscore reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Full health is much further than 55-45. You are either a Spencer(Iowa) hater, Nicky P Fanboy(Jersey?), or delusional if you believe that. There is no datapoint that supports it being that close. It’s a one takedown match if they are healthy….Spencer couldn’t turn a one legged suriano so he’s not turning a healthy one I think you are the delusional one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, Antitroll2828 said: It’s a one takedown match if they are healthy….Spencer couldn’t turn a one legged suriano so he’s not turning a healthy one I think you are the delusional one False. 1 Alwayswrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, ionel said: Cael and Dake wrestled 4 years in college at 125lb? Ah so you want to compare Lee, a generational talent, to someone who has never existed before? Why not compare him to otger generational talents? Afraid there will be too many similarities? Look at common opponents from both styles. It isn't close. I am not a Lee fan. I am a Michigan homer that somehow tries to come up with some scenario in my head where Ragusin or Hildebrandt or Foley win without injury being the reason. I have a strong dislike for the Brands bros for denying us Freestyle Lee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 Hell... add Schroder in there, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Poopy butthole 308 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: It’s a one takedown match if they are healthy….Spencer couldn’t turn a one legged suriano so he’s not turning a healthy one I think you are the delusional one They actually wrestled. You should watch the match Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, nhs67 said: False. It was 5 -1 in the ncaa finals when suriano had just spent 2 weeks in the hospital with staph in his knee, since then he won an ncaa champ at a weight he was small at, and now he can’t compete with an injured Spencer ? Delusional like I said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Antitroll2828 said: It was 5 -1 in the ncaa finals when suriano had just spent 2 weeks in the hospital with staph in his knee, since then he won an ncaa champ at a weight he was small at, and now he can’t compete with an injured Spencer ? Delusional like I said Lee was also injured then too yes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,460 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, nhs67 said: Ah so you want to compare Lee, a generational talent, to someone who has never existed before? Why not compare him to otger generational talents? Afraid there will be too many similarities? Look at common opponents from both styles. It isn't close. I am not a Lee fan. I am a Michigan homer that somehow tries to come up with some scenario in my head where Ragusin or Hildebrandt or Foley win without injury being the reason. I have a strong dislike for the Brands bros for denying us Freestyle Lee. Spencer can do it, I'm just saying one of the reasons none of the great Fr at 125 could repeat thru Jr & Sr year is because of all the scambling at 125 and injuries from it (plus the wt thing), just look at the data. Nothing is certain here but he is obviously capable & clear favorite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 I thought your name was ANTIttroll, not regulartroll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: Peak performance then for UofM, and with Massa in the lineup and Lamer at 141: 125-2nd Nicky Pushups isn't beating Lee. 133-1st Micic could win. 141-5/8 Lamer is an absolute STUD. 149-5/8 Storr wins a few more of those 1 point matches 157-3/6 Lewan has the skillz 165-3/6 Amine on his cousins trajectory? 174-1st The only 174lber I don't think Massa can beat is Labs 184-1st Amine can win 197-3/6 Brucki won't have a problem with anyone's physicality. I wanted to put 1st but was tentative 285-2nd Parris isn't beating his Father. PEAK performance. I'd favor a healthy Suriano over an injured Lee all day long. 1 BerniePragle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Poopy butthole 308 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 What's with all the hype for Suriano? He had one good tournament in the last 2 years, and that was at 59 kg. One. Single. Tournament. Other than that, he lost to NaTo and Arujau, 2 wrestlers that Lee has beaten. Oh, and he squeezed by Shelton Mack, 3-1. A lot depends on how Lee looks with 0 ACLs. He dominated NaTo and Arujau on 1 so we'll see but I just don't understand the automatic pick for Suriano. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,993 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said: What's with all the hype for Suriano? He had one good tournament in the last 2 years, and that was at 59 kg. One. Single. Tournament. Other than that, he lost to NaTo and Arujau, 2 wrestlers that Lee has beaten. Oh, and he squeezed by Shelton Mack, 3-1. A lot depends on how Lee looks with 0 ACLs. He dominated NaTo and Arujau on 1 so we'll see but I just don't understand the automatic pick for Suriano. Let them drink their kool-aid man. I am all for more competitiveness, I just understand it'll be from the two Ivy 125lbers that have been at 125lbs if it happens. HUGE if. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: Lee was also injured then too yes? That was the only year he was healthy I believe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
